Python equivalent to SharePoint?

[Joe Strout]

We've got a client who has been planning to use SharePoint for
managing their organization documents, but has recently dropped that
idea and is looking for an alternative. Is there any Python package
with similar functionality?

I confess that I've never used SharePoint myself, and what I know
about is mainly from these sources:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SharePoint

http://discuss.joelonsoftware.com/default.asp?joel.3.66103.7

I found a reference to CPS, but its developers have dropped the Python
source to rewrite it in Java. That's disturbing, and I don't want to
recommend an abandoned platform. Anything else I should consider?

Thanks,
- Joe

[Paul Boddie]

Re: Python equivalent to SharePoint?

On 15 Okt, 17:17, Joe Strout <j...@strout.ne twrote:

We've got a client who has been planning to use SharePoint for  
managing their organization documents, but has recently dropped that  
idea and is looking for an alternative.  Is there any Python package  
with similar functionality?

Here's a starting point:

http://wiki.python.org/moin/ContentManagementSystems

Plone is probably the first thing that comes to mind.

I confess that I've never used SharePoint myself, and what I know  
about is mainly from these sources:
>
   http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SharePoint
   http://discuss.joelonsoftware.com/de...joel.3.66103.7

The Wiki vs. CMS thing is relevant, even though I imagine that
corporate types like to "pooh-pooh" the idea of Wikis, preferring as
they do to use their CMS or intranet solution as yet another "shared
folder" for their Word documents. What I know from experiences trying
to build a willing editing community around the EuroPython site was
that people didn't like to stray anywhere near CPS, but people could
be coerced into editing Wiki content; the PyCon UK site had even more
contributions from random conference attendees. Of course, a corporate
CMS typically involves the imposition of such a system on employees -
that's one way not to bother about user acceptance since everyone
implicitly says "yes" once the roll-out begins - but as one commenter
on Joel's article notes, even the fanciest solutions require a degree
of willing maintenance, and if it all starts to rot then the whole
point of introducing such a system is undermined.

I found a reference to CPS, but its developers have dropped the Python  
source to rewrite it in Java.  That's disturbing, and I don't want to  
recommend an abandoned platform.  Anything else I should consider?

There may be other solutions not included on the page I mention above.
I remember being shown SharePoint a few years back by a fellow
consultant, and apart from the fancy drag-and-drop layout tools I was
strongly reminded of Slashdot, of which the consultant was naturally
unaware. At that time, for the basics of a "community site" such as
certain kinds of intranets, Zope plus Squishdot would have been
acceptable, but any absence of steep licensing costs isn't necessarily
an advantage in the consulting business since such stuff usually gets
passed onto the brand-obsessed customer.

With regard to "proper" document management, I think we'll
increasingly see developments around the revitalised area of version
control systems and their integration with Web-based solutions.
Subversion, for example, is already a Web-based solution in itself -
you'd just need to put a presentation logic layer on top.

Paul

[Lawrence D'Oliveiro]

Re: Python equivalent to SharePoint?

In message
<0b60a505-7c04-4d4a-a656-ad9e18eb9b76@p1 0g2000prf.googl egroups.com>, Paul
Boddie wrote:

... any absence of steep licensing costs isn't necessarily
an advantage in the consulting business since such stuff usually gets
passed onto the brand-obsessed customer.

Sounds like you're talking about customers being bigger businesses, rather
than smaller ones. Smaller businesses would indeed care about such costs.

[Paul Boddie]

Re: Python equivalent to SharePoint?

On 15 Okt, 22:50, Lawrence D'Oliveiro <l...@geek-
central.gen.new _zealandwrote:

In message <0b60a505-7c04-4d4a-a656-ad9e18eb9...@p1 0g2000prf.googl egroups.com>, Paul Boddie wrote:

... any absence of steep licensing costs isn't necessarily
an advantage in the consulting business since such stuff usually gets
passed onto the brand-obsessed customer.

>
Sounds like you're talking about customers being bigger businesses, rather
than smaller ones. Smaller businesses would indeed care about such costs.

Yes, in big consulting it's all about big organisations and big
contracts, where the licensing fees can presumably be put in a budget
that has to be spent anyway, especially in the public sector.

Paul

[Mike Hjorleifsson]

Re: Python equivalent to SharePoint?

On Oct 15, 11:17 am, Joe Strout <j...@strout.ne twrote:

We've got a client who has been planning to use SharePoint for  
managing their organization documents, but has recently dropped that  
idea and is looking for an alternative.  Is there any Python package  
with similar functionality?
>
I confess that I've never used SharePoint myself, and what I know  
about is mainly from these sources:
>
   http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SharePoint
   http://discuss.joelonsoftware.com/de...joel.3.66103.7
>
I found a reference to CPS, but its developers have dropped the Python  
source to rewrite it in Java.  That's disturbing, and I don't want to  
recommend an abandoned platform.  Anything else I should consider?
>
Thanks,
- Joe

Take a look at alfresco it is an opensource alternative to sharepoint
that is pretty popular.http://www.alfresco.com/

[Lawrence D'Oliveiro]

Re: Python equivalent to SharePoint?

In message
<e88b96f0-6299-4f0d-8cd6-68adc022b71e@m3 6g2000hse.googl egroups.com>, Paul
Boddie wrote:

On 15 Okt, 22:50, Lawrence D'Oliveiro <l...@geek-
central.gen.new _zealandwrote:
>

>In message
><0b60a505-7c04-4d4a-a656-ad9e18eb9...@p1 0g2000prf.googl egroups.com>, Paul
>Boddie wrote:
>>

... any absence of steep licensing costs isn't necessarily
an advantage in the consulting business since such stuff usually gets
passed onto the brand-obsessed customer.

>>
>Sounds like you're talking about customers being bigger businesses,
>rather than smaller ones. Smaller businesses would indeed care about such
>costs.

>
Yes, in big consulting it's all about big organisations and big
contracts, where the licensing fees can presumably be put in a budget
that has to be spent anyway, especially in the public sector.

Most of the world's GDP comes from small businesses.