Problem with lower() for unicode strings in russian

[Alexey Moskvin]

Hi!
I have a set of strings (all letters are capitalized) at utf-8,
russian language. I need to lower it, but
my_string.lower (). Doesn't work.
See sample script:
# -*- coding: utf-8 -*-
[skip]
s1 = self.title
s2 = self.title.lowe r()
print s1 == s2

returns true.
I have no problems with lower() for english letters:, or with
something like this:
u'russian_lette rs_here'.lower( ), but I don't need constants, I need to
modify variables, but there is no any changs, when I apply lower()
function to mine strings.

[Diez B. Roggisch]

Re: Problem with lower() for unicode strings in russian

Alexey Moskvin schrieb:

Hi!
I have a set of strings (all letters are capitalized) at utf-8,
russian language. I need to lower it, but
my_string.lower (). Doesn't work.
See sample script:
# -*- coding: utf-8 -*-
[skip]
s1 = self.title
s2 = self.title.lowe r()
print s1 == s2
>
returns true.
I have no problems with lower() for english letters:, or with
something like this:
u'russian_lette rs_here'.lower( ), but I don't need constants, I need to
modify variables, but there is no any changs, when I apply lower()
function to mine strings.

Can you give a concrete example? I doubt that there is anything
different between lowering a unicode object given as literal or acquired
somewhere else. And because my russian skills equal my chinese - total
of zero - I can't create a test myself :)

[=?ISO-8859-1?Q?=22Martin_v=2E_L=F6wis=22?=]

Re: Problem with lower() for unicode strings in russian

I have a set of strings (all letters are capitalized) at utf-8,

That's the problem. If these are really utf-8 encoded byte strings,
then .lower likely won't work. It uses the C library's tolower API,
which works on a byte level, i.e. can't work for multi-byte encodings.

What you need to do is to operate on Unicode strings. I.e. instead
of

s.lower()

do

s.decode("utf-8").lower()

or (if you need byte strings back)

s.decode("utf-8").lower().enc ode("utf-8")

If you find that you write the latter, I recommend that you redesign
your application. Don't use byte strings to represent text, but use
Unicode strings all the time, except at the system boundary (where
you decode/encode as appropriate).

There are some limitations with Unicode .lower also, but I don't
think they apply to Russian (specifically, SpecialCasing.t xt is
not considered).

HTH,
Martin

[Alexey Moskvin]

Re: Problem with lower() for unicode strings in russian

Martin, thanks for fast reply, now anything is ok!
On Oct 6, 1:30 am, "Martin v. Löwis" <mar...@v.loewi s.dewrote:

I have a set of strings (all letters are capitalized) at utf-8,

>
That's the problem. If these are really utf-8 encoded byte strings,
then .lower likely won't work. It uses the C library's tolower API,
which works on a byte level, i.e. can't work for multi-byte encodings.
>
What you need to do is to operate on Unicode strings. I.e. instead
of
>
s.lower()
>
do
>
s.decode("utf-8").lower()
>
or (if you need byte strings back)
>
s.decode("utf-8").lower().enc ode("utf-8")
>
If you find that you write the latter, I recommend that you redesign
your application. Don't use byte strings to represent text, but use
Unicode strings all the time, except at the system boundary (where
you decode/encode as appropriate).
>
There are some limitations with Unicode .lower also, but I don't
think they apply to Russian (specifically, SpecialCasing.t xt is
not considered).
>
HTH,
Martin

[konstantin]

Re: Problem with lower() for unicode strings in russian

On Oct 6, 8:39 am, Alexey Moskvin <d...@inbox.ruw rote:

Martin, thanks for fast reply, now anything is ok!
On Oct 6, 1:30 am, "Martin v. Löwis" <mar...@v.loewi s.dewrote:
>

I have a set of strings (all letters are capitalized) at utf-8,

>

That's the problem. If these are really utf-8 encoded byte strings,
then .lower likely won't work. It uses the C library's tolower API,
which works on a byte level, i.e. can't work for multi-byte encodings.

>

What you need to do is to operate on Unicode strings. I.e. instead
of

>

s.lower()

>

do

>

s.decode("utf-8").lower()

>

or (if you need byte strings back)

>

s.decode("utf-8").lower().enc ode("utf-8")

>

If you find that you write the latter, I recommend that you redesign
your application. Don't use byte strings to represent text, but use
Unicode strings all the time, except at the system boundary (where
you decode/encode as appropriate).

>

There are some limitations with Unicode .lower also, but I don't
think they apply to Russian (specifically, SpecialCasing.t xt is
not considered).

>

HTH,
Martin

Alexey,

if your strings stored in some text file you can use "codecs" package

import codecs
handler = codecs.open('so mefile', 'r', 'utf-8')
# ... do the job
handler.close()

I prefer this way to deal with russian in utf-8.

Konstantin.