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  • W. eWatson

    Python in a Nutshell -- Book vs Web

    I read an Amazon of Python in a Nutshell. The first edition is supposedly
    much like the web site. What web site? The second edition apparently adds
    more to the book than the web site.
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  • Matimus

    #2
    Re: Python in a Nutshell -- Book vs Web

    On Aug 28, 3:05 pm, "W. eWatson" <notval...@sbcg lobal.netwrote:
    I read an Amazon of Python in a Nutshell. The first edition is supposedly
    much like the web site. What web site? The second edition apparently adds
    more to the book than the web site.
    O'Reilly seems to just read all of the available documentation and
    regurgitate it in book form. The "in a nutshell" series being the
    worst offender. Most of "Python in a Nutshell" tells you the same
    information that you can find at http://docs.python.org, which is
    probably "the web site" being referenced.

    Matt

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    • Cameron Laird

      #3
      Re: Python in a Nutshell -- Book vs Web

      In article <b2f0ce20-418f-470a-a9e0-ec0d49da3d0c@a8 g2000prf.google groups.com>,
      Matimus <mccredie@gmail .comwrote:
      >On Aug 28, 3:05 pm, "W. eWatson" <notval...@sbcg lobal.netwrote:
      >I read an Amazon of Python in a Nutshell. The first edition is supposedly
      >much like the web site. What web site? The second edition apparently adds
      >more to the book than the web site.
      >
      >O'Reilly seems to just read all of the available documentation and
      >regurgitate it in book form. The "in a nutshell" series being the
      >worst offender. Most of "Python in a Nutshell" tells you the same
      >information that you can find at http://docs.python.org, which is
      >probably "the web site" being referenced.
      >
      >Matt
      No. No, to an almost libelous extent.

      As <URL: http://www.unixreview.com/documents/s=7822/ur0303j/ >
      hints, the first edition of *PIAN* included abundant material
      that was found nowhere else. Senior Tcl developers recognized
      *PIAN*'s unique values to such an extent that they snapped up
      the second edition quickly when it became available. It's
      simply mistaken to characterize *PIAN* as merely a regurgitation
      of the available documentation; in fact, while hewing to the
      style of its series, it's among the most *original* and well-
      crafted of books on Python.

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      • Fredrik Lundh

        #4
        Re: Python in a Nutshell -- Book vs Web

        Cameron Laird wrote:
        No. No, to an almost libelous extent.
        No matter what you write about, there's always a certain subcategory of
        potential readers who insist that collection, editing, filtering,
        structuring, clarification, and the author's real-life experience of the
        topic he's writing about has no value at all. My guess is that they
        don't value their own time very highly.

        </F>

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        • Cameron Laird

          #5
          Re: Python in a Nutshell -- Book vs Web

          In article <mailman.186.12 19987822.3487.p ython-list@python.org >,
          Fredrik Lundh <fredrik@python ware.comwrote:
          >Cameron Laird wrote:
          >
          >No. No, to an almost libelous extent.
          >
          >No matter what you write about, there's always a certain subcategory of
          >potential readers who insist that collection, editing, filtering,
          >structuring, clarification, and the author's real-life experience of the
          >topic he's writing about has no value at all. My guess is that they
          >don't value their own time very highly.
          >
          ></F>
          >
          Insightful. Well, I find it insightful; perhaps it's
          a personal blindness on my part. I expect programmers
          to understand, for example, that two lines of code can
          be a good day's production, in some circumstances,
          while it's "civilians" and managers who scorn their
          value on quantitative grounds. It's hard for me to
          conceive of an expert programmer who doesn't esteem
          what a high-quality book provides.

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          • Michele Simionato

            #6
            Re: Python in a Nutshell -- Book vs Web

            On Aug 29, 1:44 pm, cla...@lairds.u s (Cameron Laird) wrote:
            Insightful.  Well, I find it insightful; perhaps it's
            a personal blindness on my part.  I expect programmers
            to understand, for example, that two lines of code can
            be a good day's production, in some circumstances
            My best days are the ones were I have a negative count of lines, i.e.
            I am able to remove cruft ;)

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