setattr and getattr, when to use?

[maestro]

Why are these functions there? Is it somehow more idiomatic to use
than to do obj.field ?
Is there something you can with them that you can't by obj.field
reference?

[Jason Scheirer]

Re: setattr and getattr, when to use?

On Aug 22, 8:50 pm, maestro <notnorweg...@y ahoo.sewrote:

Why are these functions there? Is it somehow more idiomatic to use
than to do obj.field ?
Is there something you can with them that you can't by obj.field
reference?

You can generate them dynamically from strings. In some cases you
don't know until runtime what attributes you want to pull:

def show_insides(ob j):
for attr in dir(obj):
print "Attribute %r: %r" % (attr, getattr(obj, attr))

class hello(object):
a = 1
b = 2

class goodbye(object) :
c = 1
d = 500


print show_insides(he llo)
(...15 builtins...)
Attribute 'a': 1
Attribute 'b': 2

print show_insides(go odbye)
(...15 builtins...)
Attribute 'c': 1
Attribute 'd': 500

In this case, you can see that we pull the attributes of an object
using dir(), which yields a list of strings, then pull each attribute
we discover.

[Jason Scheirer]

Re: setattr and getattr, when to use?

On Aug 22, 10:17 pm, Jason Scheirer <jason.schei... @gmail.comwrote :

On Aug 22, 8:50 pm, maestro <notnorweg...@y ahoo.sewrote:
>

Why are these functions there? Is it somehow more idiomatic to use
than to do obj.field ?
Is there something you can with them that you can't by obj.field
reference?

>
You can generate them dynamically from strings. In some cases you
don't know until runtime what attributes you want to pull:
>
def show_insides(ob j):
  for attr in dir(obj):
    print "Attribute %r: %r" % (attr, getattr(obj, attr))
>
class hello(object):
   a = 1
   b = 2
>
class goodbye(object) :
   c = 1
   d = 500
>
print show_insides(he llo)
(...15 builtins...)
Attribute 'a': 1
Attribute 'b': 2
>
print show_insides(go odbye)
(...15 builtins...)
Attribute 'c': 1
Attribute 'd': 500
>
In this case, you can see that we pull the attributes of an object
using dir(), which yields a list of strings, then pull each attribute
we discover.

Might I add: avoid doing this if you don't have to. obj.field is the
way to go about getting your object attributes 95% of the time. The 5%
of your time when you are doing metaprogramming or other abuses of the
object system are when you use get/setattr.

[Steven D'Aprano]

Re: setattr and getattr, when to use?

On Fri, 22 Aug 2008 20:50:17 -0700, maestro wrote:

Why are these functions there? Is it somehow more idiomatic to use than
to do obj.field ?

Heavens no!!! Using setattr and getattr is *less* idiomatic.

Is there something you can with them that you can't by obj.field
reference?

Absolutely. Consider:

class Foo(object):
pass

foo = Foo()
setattr(foo, "x y", 1)
print getattr(foo, "x y")

That's probably an abuse of setattr/getattr, but there are times where
you might not know the name of the attribute until runtime, so you can't
write foo.attr since you don't know what to write in place of attr.
That's where setattr and getattr (as well as delattr and hasattr) come
into play.



--
Steven

[Bruno Desthuilliers]

Re: setattr and getattr, when to use?

Jason Scheirer a écrit :
(snip)

The 5%
of your time when you are doing metaprogramming or other abuses of the
object system are when you use get/setattr.

What makes you label "metaprogrammin g" and get/setattr as "abuses" ???