Newb question: underscore

[Skye]

What is this doing?

print >fd, _(__doc__)


I'm guessing line-splitting __doc__ into a list, but what's that
leading underscore do?

Thanks!

[Ben Finney]

Re: Newb question: underscore

Skye <spoier@gmail.c omwrites:

What is this doing?
>
print >fd, _(__doc__)

Without any context, it's impossible to know.

I'm guessing line-splitting __doc__ into a list, but what's that
leading underscore do?

Look at the rest of the module to see where that name comes from;
perhaps an assignment, or an 'import foo as _'.

My guess would be someone has used the common convention of naming the
"get the corresponding localised version of this string from the
application's gettext database" function as '_' for convenience.

That's only a guess though; you should believe the code you have in
front of you, not my guesses.

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[Gary Herron]

Re: Newb question: underscore

Skye wrote:

What is this doing?
>
print >fd, _(__doc__)
>
>
I'm guessing line-splitting __doc__ into a list, but what's that
leading underscore do?
>

It's calling a function with a single argument, like sqrt(x), except the
function is named _ and the argument is named __doc__. The underscores
have no special significance here, but they do make the code hard to read.

The first part of the statement directs the print to send the output to
a file, named fd, which was presumably opened earlier ... but I don't
think that was part of your question.

Gary Herron

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[Skye]

Re: Newb question: underscore

Ohh, it's a function _() call. Now it makes sense.

Of course Python would be consistent... I was expecting trickery!

It's actually from the Mailman source, def _(s) is a string function
for i18n

Thanks,
Skye

[bvdp]

Re: Newb question: underscore

My guess would be someone has used the common convention of naming the
"get the corresponding localised version of this string from the
application's gettext database" function as '_' for convenience.
>

Funny that this comes up.

I just noticed this in some code I was looking at the other day. A
number of statements in the form:

print _(something)

My question is: Why would anyone decide to obfuscate something as easy
to read as Python??? At first I thought that they were making a function
out of print (which makes some sense), but I don't think that is the
case. I tried (not very hard) to trace back the code to figure out where
_() is being assigned, but gave up. Oh, this is in the gdesklets package
if anyone is interested.


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[John Fabiani]

Re: Newb question: underscore

Skye wrote:

What is this doing?
>
print >fd, _(__doc__)
>
>
I'm guessing line-splitting __doc__ into a list, but what's that
leading underscore do?
>
Thanks!

I think it is standard practice to use the underscore for unicode converts.

[Ben Finney]

Re: Newb question: underscore

bvdp <bob@mellowood. cawrites:

My question is: Why would anyone decide to obfuscate something as easy
to read as Python???

They didn't decide to obfuscate; they decided to follow a
strongly-expected convention for the name of that function by existing
users of the 'gettext' functionality, in contexts that predate the
appearance of that functionality in Python.

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Ben Finney

[cokofreedom@gmail.com]

Re: Newb question: underscore

My question is: Why would anyone decide to obfuscate something as easy

to read as Python???

>
They didn't decide to obfuscate; they decided to follow a
strongly-expected convention for the name of that function by existing
users of the 'gettext' functionality, in contexts that predate the
appearance of that functionality in Python.
>

Well _ can also mean the previous output statement that wasn't null,
so it has OTHER uses...

[Bruno Desthuilliers]

Re: Newb question: underscore

cokofreedom@gma il.com a écrit :

>>My question is: Why would anyone decide to obfuscate something as easy
>>to read as Python???

>They didn't decide to obfuscate; they decided to follow a
>strongly-expected convention for the name of that function by existing
>users of the 'gettext' functionality, in contexts that predate the
>appearance of that functionality in Python.
>>

>
Well _ can also mean the previous output statement that wasn't null,

In the shell only IIRC.

[Bruno Desthuilliers]

Re: Newb question: underscore

John Fabiani a écrit :

Skye wrote:
>

>What is this doing?
>>
> print >fd, _(__doc__)
>>
>>
>I'm guessing line-splitting __doc__ into a list, but what's that
>leading underscore do?
>>
>Thanks!

I think it is standard practice to use the underscore for unicode converts.

Actually, it's for i18n, not for encoding.