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  • Phil Runciman
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    FW: php vs python



    -----Original Message-----
    From: Jerry Stuckle [mailto:jstuckle x@attglobal.net]
    Sent: Wednesday, 28 May 2008 1:48 p.m.
    To: python-list@python.org
    Subject: Re: php vs python

    Ivan Illarionov wrote:
    On Wed, 28 May 2008 05:10:20 +0400, AnrDaemon wrote:
    >Greetings, Ivan Illarionov.
    >In reply to Your message dated Monday, May 26, 2008, 04:47:00,
    >>
    >>>As I've said before - good programmers can write good code in any
    >>>language.
    >>Yes, they can. But it may be harder to do for them in one language
    and
    >>easier in another.
    >It's obvious lie. If you have clear mind and you know language you're
    >using, there are absolutely NOTHING can deny you to write clear code.
    >Even using forth postfix notation, I have no problem writing good
    code,
    >it's as easy as writing bad code. And yes, I do see the difference.
    No. Language does matter.
    Yes it does matter.

    I have programmed in many assembly and higher level languages.

    In OldenTimes:
    In Algol 60 I was productive from the start.
    KDF9 Usercode (Assembly) was brilliant. (A bigger HW stack would have
    made it even better).
    IBM 360 Assembly was poorer but not a disaster.
    PL1 was a mess. You could write good code but why bother?
    COBOL was fit for purpose and when combined with Jackson structured
    programming could be used straight away by rooky programmers in business
    systems programming. I am sure it has progressed since ANSI 68.

    The Inuit have 13 terms for snow. Microsoft advocate DSLs. Why have DSLs
    if language does not matter?

    My 2c worth.


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    • blaine
      #2
      Re: FW: php vs python

      On May 28, 4:47 pm, "Phil Runciman" <ph...@aspexcon sulting.co.nz>
      wrote:
      -----Original Message-----
      From: Jerry Stuckle [mailto:jstuck.. .@attglobal.net]
      Sent: Wednesday, 28 May 2008 1:48 p.m.
      To: python-l...@python.org
      Subject: Re: php vs python
      >
      Ivan Illarionov wrote:
      On Wed, 28 May 2008 05:10:20 +0400, AnrDaemon wrote:
      >
      Greetings, Ivan Illarionov.
      In reply to Your message dated Monday, May 26, 2008, 04:47:00,
      >
      >>As I've said before - good programmers can write good code in any
      >>language.
      >Yes, they can. But it may be harder to do for them in one language
      and
      >easier in another.
      It's obvious lie. If you have clear mind and you know language you're
      using, there are absolutely NOTHING can deny you to write clear code.
      Even using forth postfix notation, I have no problem writing good
      code,
      it's as easy as writing bad code. And yes, I do see the difference.
      >
      No. Language does matter.
      >
      Yes it does matter.
      >
      I have programmed in many assembly and higher level languages.
      >
      In OldenTimes:
      In Algol 60 I was productive from the start.
      KDF9 Usercode (Assembly) was brilliant. (A bigger HW stack would have
      made it even better).
      IBM 360 Assembly was poorer but not a disaster.
      PL1 was a mess. You could write good code but why bother?
      COBOL was fit for purpose and when combined with Jackson structured
      programming could be used straight away by rooky programmers in business
      systems programming. I am sure it has progressed since ANSI 68.
      >
      The Inuit have 13 terms for snow. Microsoft advocate DSLs. Why have DSLs
      if language does not matter?
      >
      My 2c worth.
      http://www.fukung.net/v/7729/php_vs_python.png

      :)

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        • Carl Banks
          #3
          Re: FW: php vs python

          On May 28, 7:45 pm, blaine <frik...@gmail. comwrote:
          On May 28, 4:47 pm, "Phil Runciman" <ph...@aspexcon sulting.co.nz>
          wrote:
          >
          >
          >
          -----Original Message-----
          From: Jerry Stuckle [mailto:jstuck.. .@attglobal.net]
          Sent: Wednesday, 28 May 2008 1:48 p.m.
          To: python-l...@python.org
          Subject: Re: php vs python
          >
          Ivan Illarionov wrote:
          On Wed, 28 May 2008 05:10:20 +0400, AnrDaemon wrote:
          >
          >Greetings, Ivan Illarionov.
          >In reply to Your message dated Monday, May 26, 2008, 04:47:00,
          >
          >>>As I've said before - good programmers can write good code in any
          >>>language.
          >>Yes, they can. But it may be harder to do for them in one language
          and
          >>easier in another.
          >It's obvious lie. If you have clear mind and you know language you're
          >using, there are absolutely NOTHING can deny you to write clear code.
          >Even using forth postfix notation, I have no problem writing good
          code,
          >it's as easy as writing bad code. And yes, I do see the difference.
          >
          No. Language does matter.
          >
          Yes it does matter.
          >
          I have programmed in many assembly and higher level languages.
          >
          In OldenTimes:
          In Algol 60 I was productive from the start.
          KDF9 Usercode (Assembly) was brilliant. (A bigger HW stack would have
          made it even better).
          IBM 360 Assembly was poorer but not a disaster.
          PL1 was a mess. You could write good code but why bother?
          COBOL was fit for purpose and when combined with Jackson structured
          programming could be used straight away by rooky programmers in business
          systems programming. I am sure it has progressed since ANSI 68.
          >
          The Inuit have 13 terms for snow. Microsoft advocate DSLs. Why have DSLs
          if language does not matter?
          >
          My 2c worth.
          >
          http://www.fukung.net/v/7729/php_vs_python.png

          :)
          Ha ha. Took me a second.

          Carl Banks

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