[x for x in <> while <>]?

**Terry Reedy** · Jun 27 '08, 04:24 PM

Re: [x for x in <> while <>]?

"urikaluzhn y" <ukaluzhny@nds. comwrote in message
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| It seems that I rather frequently need a list or iterator of the form
| [x for x in <while <>]

I can think of two ways to interpret that.

| And there is no one like this.
| May be there is another short way to write it (not as a loop). Is
| there?

Using loops to write an example of what you mean would make the above
clearer.

tjr

**Bruno Desthuilliers** · Jun 27 '08, 04:24 PM

Re: [x for x in <> while <>]?

urikaluzhny a écrit :

It seems that I rather frequently need a list or iterator of the form
[x for x in <while <>]
And there is no one like this.
May be there is another short way to write it (not as a loop). Is
there?

The answer is very probably in the itertools module.

**Paul Rubin** · Jun 27 '08, 04:24 PM

Re: [x for x in <> while <>]?

urikaluzhny <ukaluzhny@nds. comwrites:

It seems that I rather frequently need a list or iterator of the form
[x for x in <while <>]
And there is no one like this.
May be there is another short way to write it (not as a loop). Is there?

itertools.takew hile(condition, seq)

**urikaluzhny** · Jun 27 '08, 04:24 PM

Re: ?

On May 15, 10:06 am, "Terry Reedy" <tjre...@udel.e duwrote:

"urikaluzhn y" <ukaluz...@nds. comwrote in message
>
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| It seems that I rather frequently need a list or iterator of the form
| [x for x in <while <>]
>
I can think of two ways to interpret that.

I mean like [x for x in <Aif ], only that it breaks the loop when
the expression <Bis false.

**Geoffrey Clements** · Jun 27 '08, 04:24 PM

Re: ?

"urikaluzhn y" <ukaluzhny@nds. comwrote in message
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On May 15, 10:06 am, "Terry Reedy" <tjre...@udel.e duwrote:

"urikaluzhn y" <ukaluz...@nds. comwrote in message
>
news:f8229614-a000-450e-85eb-825e6c1386cf@w7 g2000hsa.google groups.com...
| It seems that I rather frequently need a list or iterator of the form
| [x for x in <while <>]
>
I can think of two ways to interpret that.

>I mean like [x for x in <Aif ], only that it breaks the loop when
>the expression <Bis false.

def gen(a):
for x in a:
if B: break
yield x

a_gen = gen(A)

# now iterate over a_gen

--
Geoff

**afrobeard** · Jun 27 '08, 04:24 PM

Re: ?

The following proposed solution is not intended to be a solution, it
goes completely against the zen of python. [Type import this into the
python command interpreter]

I brought it down to two lines:-

l = range(6)
[1 if b!=4 else l.__delslice__( 0,len(l)) for b in l][:-1]

itertools would still be a better approach in my opinion.

Just because I'm curious to know, can anyone bring it shorter[even if
its cryptic] than this without invoking any Python Library.

P.S. Once again I would not recommend using this as Explicit is better
than Implicit
P.P.S. It is strongly undesirable for us humans to use anything
starting with __ :)

On May 15, 5:10 pm, "Geoffrey Clements"
<geoffrey.cleme nt...@SPAMbaesy stems.comwrote:

"urikaluzhn y" <ukaluz...@nds. comwrote in message
>
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On May 15, 10:06 am, "Terry Reedy" <tjre...@udel.e duwrote:
>

"urikaluzhn y" <ukaluz...@nds. comwrote in message

>

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| It seems that I rather frequently need a list or iterator of the form
| [x for x in <while <>]

>

I can think of two ways to interpret that.

I mean like [x for x in <Aif ], only that it breaks the loop when
the expression <Bis false.

>
def gen(a):
for x in a:
if B: break
yield x
>
a_gen = gen(A)
>
# now iterate over a_gen
>
--
Geoff

**castironpi** · Jun 27 '08, 04:25 PM

Re: ?

On May 15, 6:07 pm, afrobeard <afrobe...@gmai l.comwrote:

The following proposed solution is not intended to be a solution, it
goes completely against the zen of python. [Type import this into the
python command interpreter]
>
I brought it down to two lines:-
>
l = range(6)
[1 if b!=4 else l.__delslice__( 0,len(l)) for b in l][:-1]
>
itertools would still be a better approach in my opinion.
>
Just because I'm curious to know, can anyone bring it shorter[even if
its cryptic] than this without invoking any Python Library.
>
P.S. Once again I would not recommend using this as Explicit is better
than Implicit
P.P.S. It is strongly undesirable for us humans to use anything
starting with __ :)
>
On May 15, 5:10 pm, "Geoffrey Clements"
>
>
>
<geoffrey.cleme nt...@SPAMbaesy stems.comwrote:

"urikaluzhn y" <ukaluz...@nds. comwrote in message

>

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On May 15, 10:06 am, "Terry Reedy" <tjre...@udel.e duwrote:

>

"urikaluzhn y" <ukaluz...@nds. comwrote in message

>

>news:f822961 4-a000-450e-85eb-825e6c1386cf@w7 g2000hsa.google groups.com....
| It seems that I rather frequently need a list or iterator of the form
| [x for x in <while <>]

>

I can think of two ways to interpret that.
>I mean like [x for x in <Aif ], only that it breaks the loop when
>the expression <Bis false.

>

def gen(a):
for x in a:
if B: break
yield x

>

a_gen = gen(A)

>

# now iterate over a_gen

>

--
Geoff- Hide quoted text -

>
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In your original, you have:

l = range(6)
[1 if b!=4 else l.__delslice__( 0,len(l)) for b in l][:-1]

You may be hyperextending the use of '..if..else..', which is one of
my fears regarding 'with x as y'. "l.__delslice__ (0,len(l))" is not
an expression.

**afrobeard** · Jun 27 '08, 04:25 PM

Re: ?

According to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Expression_(programming)

"An expression in a programming language is a combination of values,
variables, operators, and functions that are interpreted (evaluated)
according to the particular rules of precedence and of association for
a particular programming language, which computes and then produces
(returns, in a stateful environment) another value."

l.__delslice__( 0,len(l)) is an expression because it returns None
[which also happens to be a value] in this case.

On May 16, 4:23 am, castironpi <castiro...@gma il.comwrote:

On May 15, 6:07 pm, afrobeard <afrobe...@gmai l.comwrote:
>
>
>

The following proposed solution is not intended to be a solution, it
goes completely against the zen of python. [Type import this into the
python command interpreter]

>

I brought it down to two lines:-

>

l = range(6)
[1 if b!=4 else l.__delslice__( 0,len(l)) for b in l][:-1]

>

itertools would still be a better approach in my opinion.

>

Just because I'm curious to know, can anyone bring it shorter[even if
its cryptic] than this without invoking any Python Library.

>

P.S. Once again I would not recommend using this as Explicit is better
than Implicit
P.P.S. It is strongly undesirable for us humans to use anything
starting with __ :)

>

On May 15, 5:10 pm, "Geoffrey Clements"

>

<geoffrey.cleme nt...@SPAMbaesy stems.comwrote:

"urikaluzhn y" <ukaluz...@nds. comwrote in message

>

>news:51e0f25 d-474a-450a-ad00-92f70c893c6c@m4 4g2000hsc.googl egroups.com....
On May 15, 10:06 am, "Terry Reedy" <tjre...@udel.e duwrote:

>

"urikaluzhn y" <ukaluz...@nds. comwrote in message

>

news:f8229614-a000-450e-85eb-825e6c1386cf@w7 g2000hsa.google groups.com....
| It seems that I rather frequently need a list or iterator of the form
| [x for x in <while <>]

>

I can think of two ways to interpret that.
I mean like [x for x in <Aif ], only that it breaks the loop when
the expression <Bis false.

>

def gen(a):
for x in a:
if B: break
yield x

>

a_gen = gen(A)

>

# now iterate over a_gen

>

--
Geoff- Hide quoted text -

>

- Show quoted text -

>
In your original, you have:
>

l = range(6)
[1 if b!=4 else l.__delslice__( 0,len(l)) for b in l][:-1]

>
You may be hyperextending the use of '..if..else..', which is one of
my fears regarding 'with x as y'. "l.__delslice__ (0,len(l))" is not
an expression.

**afrobeard** · Jun 27 '08, 04:25 PM

Re: ?

l.__delslice__( 0,len(l)) is an expression as it returns None which is
a value

On May 16, 4:23 am, castironpi <castiro...@gma il.comwrote:

On May 15, 6:07 pm, afrobeard <afrobe...@gmai l.comwrote:
>
>
>

The following proposed solution is not intended to be a solution, it
goes completely against the zen of python. [Type import this into the
python command interpreter]

>

I brought it down to two lines:-

>

l = range(6)
[1 if b!=4 else l.__delslice__( 0,len(l)) for b in l][:-1]

>

itertools would still be a better approach in my opinion.

>

Just because I'm curious to know, can anyone bring it shorter[even if
its cryptic] than this without invoking any Python Library.

>

P.S. Once again I would not recommend using this as Explicit is better
than Implicit
P.P.S. It is strongly undesirable for us humans to use anything
starting with __ :)

>

On May 15, 5:10 pm, "Geoffrey Clements"

>

<geoffrey.cleme nt...@SPAMbaesy stems.comwrote:

"urikaluzhn y" <ukaluz...@nds. comwrote in message

>

>news:51e0f25 d-474a-450a-ad00-92f70c893c6c@m4 4g2000hsc.googl egroups.com....
On May 15, 10:06 am, "Terry Reedy" <tjre...@udel.e duwrote:

>

"urikaluzhn y" <ukaluz...@nds. comwrote in message

>

news:f8229614-a000-450e-85eb-825e6c1386cf@w7 g2000hsa.google groups.com....
| It seems that I rather frequently need a list or iterator of the form
| [x for x in <while <>]

>

I can think of two ways to interpret that.
I mean like [x for x in <Aif ], only that it breaks the loop when
the expression <Bis false.

>

def gen(a):
for x in a:
if B: break
yield x

>

a_gen = gen(A)

>

# now iterate over a_gen

>

--
Geoff- Hide quoted text -

>

- Show quoted text -

>
In your original, you have:
>

l = range(6)
[1 if b!=4 else l.__delslice__( 0,len(l)) for b in l][:-1]

>
You may be hyperextending the use of '..if..else..', which is one of
my fears regarding 'with x as y'. "l.__delslice__ (0,len(l))" is not
an expression.

**castironpi** · Jun 27 '08, 04:25 PM

Re: ?

On May 15, 6:52 pm, afrobeard <afrobe...@gmai l.comwrote:

l.__delslice__( 0,len(l)) is an expression as it returns None which is
a value
>
On May 16, 4:23 am, castironpi <castiro...@gma il.comwrote:
>
>
>

On May 15, 6:07 pm, afrobeard <afrobe...@gmai l.comwrote:

>

The following proposed solution is not intended to be a solution, it
goes completely against the zen of python. [Type import this into the
python command interpreter]

>

I brought it down to two lines:-

>

l = range(6)
[1 if b!=4 else l.__delslice__( 0,len(l)) for b in l][:-1]

>

itertools would still be a better approach in my opinion.

>

Just because I'm curious to know, can anyone bring it shorter[even if
its cryptic] than this without invoking any Python Library.

>

P.S. Once again I would not recommend using this as Explicit is better
than Implicit
P.P.S. It is strongly undesirable for us humans to use anything
starting with __ :)

>

On May 15, 5:10 pm, "Geoffrey Clements"

>

<geoffrey.cleme nt...@SPAMbaesy stems.comwrote:
"urikaluzhn y" <ukaluz...@nds. comwrote in message

>

news:51e0f25d-474a-450a-ad00-92f70c893c6c@m4 4g2000hsc.googl egroups.com...
On May 15, 10:06 am, "Terry Reedy" <tjre...@udel.e duwrote:

>

"urikaluzhn y" <ukaluz...@nds. comwrote in message

>

>news:f822961 4-a000-450e-85eb-825e6c1386cf@w7 g2000hsa.google groups.com...
| It seems that I rather frequently need a list or iterator of theform
| [x for x in <while <>]

>

I can think of two ways to interpret that.
>I mean like [x for x in <Aif ], only that it breaks the loopwhen
>the expression <Bis false.

>

def gen(a):
for x in a:
if B: break
yield x

>

a_gen = gen(A)

>

# now iterate over a_gen

>

--
Geoff- Hide quoted text -

>

- Show quoted text -

>

In your original, you have:

>

l = range(6)
[1 if b!=4 else l.__delslice__( 0,len(l)) for b in l][:-1]

>

You may be hyperextending the use of '..if..else..', which is one of
my fears regarding 'with x as y'. "l.__delslice__ (0,len(l))" is not
an expression.- Hide quoted text -

>
- Show quoted text -

Functional programming is really important to a former professor of
me. I like to say that None returns as a value. I think you can call
functional "evaluation al".

**Alexandr N Zamaraev** · Jun 27 '08, 04:25 PM

Re: ?

urikaluzhny wrote:

>| It seems that I rather frequently need a list or iterator of the form
>| [x for x in <while <>]
>I can think of two ways to interpret that.

I mean like [x for x in <Aif ], only that it breaks the loop when
the expression <Bis false.

How do you plan to modify B during iteration?
May be
[x for x in itertools.takew hile(, <A>)]
when <Bfunction accept element <Aand return True or False

**Ruediger** · Jun 27 '08, 04:25 PM

Re: [x for x in <> while <>]?

urikaluzhny wrote:

It seems that I rather frequently need a list or iterator of the form
[x for x in <while <>]
And there is no one like this.
May be there is another short way to write it (not as a loop). Is
there?
Thanks

I usually have the same problem and i came up with an solution like that:

from operator import ne
def test(iterable, value, op=ne):
_n = iter(iterable). next
while True:
_x = _n()
if op(_x, value):
yield _x
else:
raise StopIteration

l = range(6)
print [x for x in test(l, 4)]

r@linux:~/tmppython test18.py
[0, 1, 2, 3]

**Paul Hankin** · Jun 27 '08, 04:25 PM

Re: ?

On May 17, 11:08 am, Ruediger <larud...@freen et.dewrote:

urikaluzhny wrote:

It seems that I rather frequently need a list or iterator of the form
[x for x in <while <>]
And there is no one like this.
May be there is another short way to write it (not as a loop). Is
there?
Thanks

>
I usually have the same problem and i came up with an solution like that:
>
from operator import ne
def test(iterable, value, op=ne):
_n = iter(iterable). next
while True:
_x = _n()
if op(_x, value):
yield _x
else:
raise StopIteration

This is better written using takewhile...
itertools.takew hile(lambda x: x != value, iterable)

But if you really need to reinvent the wheel, perhaps this is simpler?

def test(iterable, value, op=operator.ne) :
for x in iterable:
if not op(x, value):
return
yield x

--
Paul Hankin

**Ruediger** · Jun 27 '08, 04:26 PM

Re: ?

Paul Hankin wrote:

This is better written using takewhile...
itertools.takew hile(lambda x: x != value, iterable)
>
But if you really need to reinvent the wheel, perhaps this is simpler?
>
def test(iterable, value, op=operator.ne) :
for x in iterable:
if not op(x, value):
return
yield x

yes you are right it is. However as i mentioned in my post i came up with an
solution 'like' that. In fact my original code was to complex to post.
While simplifying it, i've overseen the obvious solution.

For special cases where you need to do more complex tests, the best solution
is IMHO to hide it in an generator function like above.

[x for x in <> while <>]?

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