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  • aguirre.adolfo@gmail.com

    Python Math libraries - How to?

    Hi, I am a very newbie who would very much appreciate some hints.

    Python 2.52. on Windows XP for now. Soon on Ubuntu 8

    I am teaching myself Python following free tutorials. I can solve
    problems using arithmetic, but when I try to upgrade the programs
    using math libraries nothing seems to work. I downloaded a 2002
    tutorial from Zelle "An Introduction to Computer Science" where he
    uses a "import math" statement to calculate a square root. I tried the
    "pi" library function but it didn´t work. I tried using def Pi() it
    did not work either. I am yet to find a tutorial that explains how to
    declare (or initialize) and pass numbers to the functions such as
    "cos(x)" and the pi which does not have a variable in it. Is just a
    constant.

    Here is the arithmetic program I made that it worked before I added
    the "import math" line. I erased the constant p = 3.1416 and added
    the "i" for the library function "pi" in the algorithms. But I get an
    error message not recognizing "pi"



    #volumen.py
    # A program to compute the volume and surface area of a sphere
    import math

    def main():

    print "This program calculates the volume and surface area of a
    sphere"
    print
    r = input("Please enter the radious: ")
    print
    r3 = r*r*r
    volume = 4/3*pi*r3
    r2 = r*r
    surface = 4*pi*r2
    print "The Volume is", volume, " Cubic centimeters"
    print
    print "The Surface area is", surface, " square centimeters"

    main()

    *** Error message *************

    Traceback (most recent call last):
    File "C:/Python25/z - MIS PROGRAMAS/volumen-b.py", line 20, in
    <module>
    main()
    File "C:/Python25/z - MIS PROGRAMAS/volumen-b.py", line 13, in main
    volume = 4/3*pi*r3
    NameError: global name 'pi' is not defined
  • Gary Herron

    #2
    Re: Python Math libraries - How to?

    aguirre.adolfo@ gmail.com wrote:
    Hi, I am a very newbie who would very much appreciate some hints.
    >
    Python 2.52. on Windows XP for now. Soon on Ubuntu 8
    >
    I am teaching myself Python following free tutorials. I can solve
    problems using arithmetic, but when I try to upgrade the programs
    using math libraries nothing seems to work. I downloaded a 2002
    tutorial from Zelle "An Introduction to Computer Science" where he
    uses a "import math" statement to calculate a square root. I tried the
    "pi" library function but it didn´t work. I tried using def Pi() it
    did not work either. I am yet to find a tutorial that explains how to
    declare (or initialize) and pass numbers to the functions such as
    "cos(x)" and the pi which does not have a variable in it. Is just a
    constant.
    >
    Here is the arithmetic program I made that it worked before I added
    the "import math" line. I erased the constant p = 3.1416 and added
    the "i" for the library function "pi" in the algorithms. But I get an
    error message not recognizing "pi"
    >
    You have several ways to import a module, and your choice determines how
    you access things.

    Method 1:

    import math

    Then use: math.pi, math.sqrt, math.sin, math.cos, ...

    Method 2:

    from math import pi, sqrt

    Then use pi, and sqrt.
    But other module attributes (like sin, and cos) are not accessible.


    Method 3:

    from math import *

    Then use pi, sqrt, cos, sin, and anything else defined by the module.
    (This is sometime frowned upon, but there's no reason to do so here.)

    Gary Herron


    >
    >
    #volumen.py
    # A program to compute the volume and surface area of a sphere
    import math
    >
    def main():
    >
    print "This program calculates the volume and surface area of a
    sphere"
    print
    r = input("Please enter the radious: ")
    print
    r3 = r*r*r
    volume = 4/3*pi*r3
    r2 = r*r
    surface = 4*pi*r2
    print "The Volume is", volume, " Cubic centimeters"
    print
    print "The Surface area is", surface, " square centimeters"
    >
    main()
    >
    *** Error message *************
    >
    Traceback (most recent call last):
    File "C:/Python25/z - MIS PROGRAMAS/volumen-b.py", line 20, in
    <module>
    main()
    File "C:/Python25/z - MIS PROGRAMAS/volumen-b.py", line 13, in main
    volume = 4/3*pi*r3
    NameError: global name 'pi' is not defined
    --

    >

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    • Benjamin Kaplan

      #3
      Re: Python Math libraries - How to?

      On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 10:07 PM, <aguirre.adolfo @gmail.comwrote :
      Hi, I am a very newbie who would very much appreciate some hints.
      >
      Python 2.52. on Windows XP for now. Soon on Ubuntu 8
      >
      I am teaching myself Python following free tutorials. I can solve
      problems using arithmetic, but when I try to upgrade the programs
      using math libraries nothing seems to work. I downloaded a 2002
      tutorial from Zelle "An Introduction to Computer Science" where he
      uses a "import math" statement to calculate a square root. I tried the
      "pi" library function but it didn´t work. I tried using def Pi() it
      did not work either. I am yet to find a tutorial that explains how to
      declare (or initialize) and pass numbers to the functions such as
      "cos(x)" and the pi which does not have a variable in it. Is just a
      constant.
      >
      Here is the arithmetic program I made that it worked before I added
      the "import math" line. I erased the constant p = 3.1416 and added
      the "i" for the library function "pi" in the algorithms. But I get an
      error message not recognizing "pi"
      >
      >
      >
      #volumen.py
      # A program to compute the volume and surface area of a sphere
      import math
      >
      def main():
      >
      print "This program calculates the volume and surface area of a
      sphere"
      print
      r = input("Please enter the radious: ")
      print
      r3 = r*r*r
      volume = 4/3*pi*r3
      r2 = r*r
      surface = 4*pi*r2
      print "The Volume is", volume, " Cubic centimeters"
      print
      print "The Surface area is", surface, " square centimeters"
      >
      main()
      >
      *** Error message *************
      >
      Traceback (most recent call last):
      File "C:/Python25/z - MIS PROGRAMAS/volumen-b.py", line 20, in
      <module>
      main()
      File "C:/Python25/z - MIS PROGRAMAS/volumen-b.py", line 13, in main
      volume = 4/3*pi*r3
      NameError: global name 'pi' is not defined
      --

      >
      pi is not a global name. When you do "import math",you aren't adding
      everything to the name space, you are just telling python that you are
      going to be using that file. You then refer to it as math.*, such as
      "math.pi", or "math.pow(r,3)" . To use it the way you want to, you
      would have to do "from math import pi" instead of "import math"

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      • aguirre.adolfo@gmail.com

        #4
        Re: Python Math libraries - How to?

        >
        Thank you. I´ll try all methods to figure out the convenience of each
        Adolfo
        >
        >

        Comment

        • aguirre.adolfo@gmail.com

          #5
          Re: Python Math libraries - How to?

          Thank you :-), I´ll do
          Adolfo
          >
          pi is not a global name. When you do "import math",you aren't adding
          everything to the name space, you are just telling python that you are
          going to be using that file. You then refer to it as math.*, such as
          "math.pi", or "math.pow(r,3)" . To use it the way you want to, you
          would have to do "from math import pi" instead of "import math"

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          • Terry Reedy

            #6
            Re: Python Math libraries - How to?


            "Gary Herron" <gherron@island training.comwro te in message
            news:48168670.9 040102@islandtr aining.com...
            aguirre.adolfo@ gmail.com wrote:

            You have several ways to import a module, and your choice determines how
            you access things.

            Method 1:

            import math

            Then use: math.pi, math.sqrt, math.sin, math.cos, ...

            Method 2:

            from math import pi, sqrt

            Then use pi, and sqrt.
            But other module attributes (like sin, and cos) are not accessible.


            Method 3:

            from math import *

            Then use pi, sqrt, cos, sin, and anything else defined by the module.
            (This is sometime frowned upon, but there's no reason to do so here.)
            |
            =============== =============== =======
            |
            There are two good reasons for the frown.

            One is for the potential conflict between builtin names, imported names
            (from possibly multiple modules), and names defined in the module.
            Builtins and math both have 'pow' functions that I believe are slightly
            different (or maybe once were). Math and cmath have 13 functions with
            duplicate names but different input and output (2.5). Importing * from
            both would be disasterous.

            The other is that someone not familiar with the imported module(s) will not
            know where a particular name came from when reading the code. Both
            problems are obvious worse with multiple imports.

            Method 4: (my favorite when using multiple names from a module)

            import math as m

            Then use m.pi, etc.

            tjr






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