*.py source file surprisingly deleted with Pydev/Eclipse. Who elseexperienced this ?

[Nebur]

Hi folks developing with Pydev/Eclipse,

this is the second time in about half a year that the following
surprise bites me:

I've switched between some files in Pydev/Eclipse using the
FileNavigator, and when I want to go back to my last-edited *.py file,
it is missing.
No more in the FileNavigator, no more in the OpenFiles-List of the
Editor. Removed anywhere. Erased from the file system. Restorable from
the version control only.
Only a young orphan *.pyc file is sitting around, showing me I haven't
dreamed of editing the file two minutes before.
I'm sure I did no delete operations with eclipse, and I'm sure I did
not use another application than eclipse in the meantime.

No, I can't reproduce it, and I don't know whom to blame (Pydev?
Eclipse ? The File System ? A Virus that only 2 times in half a year
deletes a single file I'm busy working with, and seems to do nothing
else? Myself beeing schizophrenic ??)

Someone else already had this effect ?
Nebur


PS: Debian Etch 64Bit/JFS,Eclipse3.3, Pydev1.3.14.

[Nebur]

Re: *.py source file surprisingly deleted with Pydev/Eclipse. Whoelse experienced this ?

Are you using svn? I did have a problem once related to that (but it's

Hi Fabio,
No, there's no version control plugin. I use Mercurial, but externally
only.
I've considered a problem with version control, too.
But all external reasons (file sytem, virus, version control) seem
unplausible because when simply removing the file from file system,
Eclipse would complain about the missing ressource.
So I have 2 ideas only: A _very_ strange bug inside the Eclipse/Plugin
process, or something with my brain ;-)
Nebur

[Alex9968]

Re: *.py source file surprisingly deleted with Pydev/Eclipse. Whoelse experienced this ?

Nebur wrote:

No, I can't reproduce it, and I don't know whom to blame (Pydev?
Eclipse ? The File System ? A Virus that only 2 times in half a year
deletes a single file I'm busy working with, and seems to do nothing
else? Myself beeing schizophrenic ??)

A virus created to remind you 2 times in half a year of the importance
of backup operations ;-) . I'm joking. I don't know what is this, but
I'm interested. Because my files won't be restorable from version
control :-(

[Nebur]

Re: *.py source file surprisingly deleted with Pydev/Eclipse. Whoelse experienced this ?

Yes. Linux viruses are rare but useful :-)
Well, I don't think the problem a very dangerous one. The Pydev/
Eclipse was used for much more than a year nearly daily and
intensively. The strange effect is very rare,obviously (plus the
chance that it's in my brain, as I mentioned ;-D ) so you probably can
lean back. Anyway, I'd be glad to get an even faint idea of the
problem.

[Gabriel Genellina]

Re: *.py source file surprisingly deleted with Pydev/Eclipse. Whoelse experienced this ?

En Fri, 04 Apr 2008 15:46:48 -0300, Alex9968 <noname9968@gma il.com>
escribió:

Nebur wrote:

>No, I can't reproduce it, and I don't know whom to blame (Pydev?
>Eclipse ? The File System ? A Virus that only 2 times in half a year
>deletes a single file I'm busy working with, and seems to do nothing
>else? Myself beeing schizophrenic ??)

A virus created to remind you 2 times in half a year of the importance
of backup operations ;-) . I'm joking. I don't know what is this, but
I'm interested. Because my files won't be restorable from version
control :-(

Then implement it! It's not so difficult, less if you're the only one
working on the files.

--
Gabriel Genellina

[Fabio Zadrozny]

Re: *.py source file surprisingly deleted with Pydev/Eclipse. Whoelse experienced this ?

On Fri, Apr 4, 2008 at 5:05 PM, Nebur <nospam1.reifen berg@gmx.dewrot e:

Yes. Linux viruses are rare but useful :-)
Well, I don't think the problem a very dangerous one. The Pydev/
Eclipse was used for much more than a year nearly daily and
intensively. The strange effect is very rare,obviously (plus the
chance that it's in my brain, as I mentioned ;-D ) so you probably can
lean back. Anyway, I'd be glad to get an even faint idea of the
problem.

Hi Nebur,

Well, I have absolutely no idea of what could trigger that either :(

So, just wanted to point out that eclipse saves your file history
(even if you do not have a vcs)... that operation can be selected by
right clicking a parent folder and selecting 'restore from local
history'.

Cheers,

Fabio

[Alex9968]

Re: *.py source file surprisingly deleted with Pydev/Eclipse. Whoelse experienced this ?

Gabriel Genellina wrote:

En Fri, 04 Apr 2008 15:46:48 -0300, Alex9968 <noname9968@gma il.com>
escribió:
>

>Nebur wrote:
>>

>
>

>>No, I can't reproduce it, and I don't know whom to blame (Pydev?
>>Eclipse ? The File System ? A Virus that only 2 times in half a year
>>deletes a single file I'm busy working with, and seems to do nothing
>>else? Myself beeing schizophrenic ??)
>>>

>
>

>A virus created to remind you 2 times in half a year of the importance
>of backup operations ;-) . I'm joking. I don't know what is this, but
>I'm interested. Because my files won't be restorable from version
>control :-(
>>

>
Then implement it! It's not so difficult, less if you're the only one
working on the files.

Implement what? The virus? I haven't said that I'm interested in virus,
I meant I'd like to know WHAT is this

[Nebur]

Re: *.py source file surprisingly deleted with Pydev/Eclipse. Whoelse experienced this ?

So, just wanted to point out that eclipse saves your file history

(even if you do not have a vcs)... that operation can be selected by
right clicking a parent folder and selecting 'restore from local
history'.

Fabio, you are right; this feature should help to compensate ... but
in my case, the Eclipse said "No deleted ressources in local history
for selected container".
I'm not familiar with the Local-History feature (since using a vcs),
so it may be misconfigured. (The setting in Preferences/Workspace/
LocalHistore are at default: 7 days to keep files, 50 maximum entries
per file, max.file size 1MB - which should be enough. ). Hm.
Anyway, I don't see any idea how to track down what happened. So lets
close the thread and simply continue working.
* This is a good occasion to state that Pydev/Eclipse still is a very
efficient IDE in my opinion, and (aside from this mystery here) it is
perfectly stable for >>1 year now! This must be said, to correct any
potential misimpression.
Ciao,
Nebur

[Nebur]

Re: *.py source file surprisingly deleted with Pydev/Eclipse. Whoelse experienced this ?

Implement what? The virus? I haven't said that I'm interested in virus,

I meant I'd like to know WHAT is this

No, this was a misunderstandin g. What we meant was:
when you want to implement a virus, you should use a version control :-
D
Nebur