Why not a Python compiler?

**Grant Edwards** · Feb 8 '08, 05:55 PM

Re: Why not a Python compiler?

On 2008-02-08, Arnaud Delobelle <arnodel@google mail.comwrote:

>the compiler could do little else except translate it to something
>like:
>>
>(python:add a b)

[snip more interesting considerations about compiling python]
>
Please get back on topic. This discussion is about parsecs and
wookies now.

What's a "wookie" a unit of?

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**Jeff Schwab** · Feb 8 '08, 06:05 PM

Re: Why not a Python compiler?

Grant Edwards wrote:

On 2008-02-08, Arnaud Delobelle <arnodel@google mail.comwrote:
>

>>the compiler could do little else except translate it to something
>>like:
>>>
>>(python:add a b)

>[snip more interesting considerations about compiling python]
>>
>Please get back on topic. This discussion is about parsecs and
>wookies now.

>
What's a "wookie" a unit of?

Fur.

**Lou Pecora** · Feb 8 '08, 08:55 PM

Re: OT: Star Wars and parsecs [was Re: Why not a Python compiler?]

In article <13qotf2mgpvkoa c@corp.supernew s.com>,
Grant Edwards <grante@visi.co mwrote:

On 2008-02-08, Dennis Lee Bieber <wlfraed@ix.net com.comwrote:
>

A Parsec is a fixed value (which, admittedly, presumes the culture
developed a 360degree circle broken into degrees =minutes =>
seconds... or, at least, some units compatible with the concept of an
"arc second", like 400 grads of, say, 100 "minutes", each of 100
"seconds")

>
It also presumes a standard diamter of that circle.

Which is the Earth's orbit. So, long, long ago in a galaxy far, far
away did they know about the Earth and decide to use it as the basis for
length in the universe? Even before people on earth defined it?

Or (ominous music builds here, switch to low voice) is it as some now
contend? We are the decendents of a long, lost civilization who
colonized Earth and used it as a base for their operations to the point
of adopting it as their own home?

.... You Betcha!

:-)

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**Steve Holden** · Feb 9 '08, 12:35 AM

Re: Why not a Python compiler?

Grant Edwards wrote:

On 2008-02-08, Arnaud Delobelle <arnodel@google mail.comwrote:
>

>>the compiler could do little else except translate it to something
>>like:
>>>
>>(python:add a b)

>[snip more interesting considerations about compiling python]
>>
>Please get back on topic. This discussion is about parsecs and
>wookies now.

>
What's a "wookie" a unit of?
>

A wookie is someone who's onwy just joined a team and hasn't pwayed vewy
much.

regards
Steve
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**Marc 'BlackJack' Rintsch** · Feb 9 '08, 01:15 AM

Re: Why not a Python compiler?

On Fri, 08 Feb 2008 05:12:29 -0800, Ryszard Szopa wrote:

Expressing simple loops as C for loops...

You mean simple loops like ``for i in xrange(1000):`` ? How should the
compiler know what object is bound to the name `xrange` when that loop is
executed?

Ciao,
Marc 'BlackJack' Rintsch

**Marc 'BlackJack' Rintsch** · Feb 9 '08, 01:25 AM

Re: Why not a Python compiler?

On Fri, 08 Feb 2008 17:45:36 +0000, Grant Edwards wrote:

On 2008-02-08, Arnaud Delobelle <arnodel@google mail.comwrote:
>

>Please get back on topic. This discussion is about parsecs and
>wookies now.

>
What's a "wookie" a unit of?

The degree of confusion among the jury when using the Chewbacca defense. :-)

Chewbacca defense - Wikipedia

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chewbacca_defense

Ciao,
Marc 'BlackJack' Rintsch

**=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Luis_M._Gonz=E1lez?=** · Feb 9 '08, 01:35 AM

Re: Why not a Python compiler?

On 8 feb, 22:15, Marc 'BlackJack' Rintsch <bj_...@gmx.net wrote:

On Fri, 08 Feb 2008 17:45:36 +0000, Grant Edwards wrote:

On 2008-02-08, Arnaud Delobelle <arno...@google mail.comwrote:

>

Please get back on topic. This discussion is about parsecs and
wookies now.

>

What's a "wookie" a unit of?

>
The degree of confusion among the jury when using the Chewbacca defense. :-)
>

Chewbacca defense - Wikipedia

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chewbacca_defense

>
Ciao,
Marc 'BlackJack' Rintsch

You are all a bunch of pathetic geeks with your nerdy lingo.
All of you should be frozen in carbonite and sold to a Hutt...

**Jeff Schwab** · Feb 9 '08, 01:55 AM

Re: Why not a Python compiler?

Luis M. González wrote:

On 8 feb, 22:15, Marc 'BlackJack' Rintsch <bj_...@gmx.net wrote:

>On Fri, 08 Feb 2008 17:45:36 +0000, Grant Edwards wrote:

>>On 2008-02-08, Arnaud Delobelle <arno...@google mail.comwrote:
>>>Please get back on topic. This discussion is about parsecs and
>>>wookies now.
>>What's a "wookie" a unit of?

>The degree of confusion among the jury when using the Chewbacca defense. :-)
>>
>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chewbacca_defense
>>
>Ciao,
> Marc 'BlackJack' Rintsch

>
>
You are all a bunch of pathetic geeks with your nerdy lingo.
All of you should be frozen in carbonite and sold to a Hutt...

Ahhh, *you* must be the one who found time to write that Wikipedia
article on the Chewbacca defense.

**Martin P. Hellwig** · Feb 9 '08, 02:05 PM

Re: OT: Speed of light [was Re: Why not a Python compiler?]

Steven D'Aprano wrote:

On Wed, 06 Feb 2008 10:14:10 -0600, Reedick, Andrew wrote:
>

>>>'c' is also the speed of light.
>>'c' is the speed of light _in_a_vacuum_.

>True.
>>
>>

>>>And since nothing can travel faster than light...
>>Nothing can travel faster than the speed of light _in_a_vacuum_. There
>>are situtaitons where things can (and regularly do) travel faster than
>>light: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cherenkov_radiation

>>
>Nope. It propagates, not travels, faster than light. Go ask a
>physicist to explain it. It's odd...

>
Propagate, travel, what's the difference?
>

Unfortunately, I didn't study any of this but I sure do remember the
answer one drunk physic said to me in a bar when I ask him the question:
"Does light travel or propagate?"
He answered: "Depends on how you see light."
He must have studied philosophy too :-)
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**Thomas Dybdahl Ahle** · Feb 9 '08, 02:15 PM

Re: OT: Speed of light [was Re: Why not a Python compiler?]

On Sat, 2008-02-09 at 14:56 +0100, Martin P. Hellwig wrote:

Propagate, travel, what's the difference?

Unfortunately, I didn't study any of this but I sure do remember the
answer one drunk physic said to me in a bar when I ask him the question:
"Does light travel or propagate?"
He answered: "Depends on how you see light."
He must have studied philosophy too :-)

Quantum mechanics are closely related to philosophy.

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**Doug Morse** · Feb 9 '08, 09:05 PM

Re: OT: Speed of light [was Re: Why not a Python compiler?]

So, showing of my physics ignorance: I presume then that this means that
light, say from the sun, is actually sending particles to the earth, since the
space between is mostly vacuum? Or is there enough material in the
near-vacuum of space for propogation to occur?

On Sat, 09 Feb 2008 12:25:51 -0800, Dennis Lee Bieber <wlfraed@ix.net com.com>
wrote:

...
Or just the old particle/wave dichotomy... particles travel, waves
propagate (that is, the wave form -- crest/dip -- changes position, but
the material of the medium it is in just jiggles in place).

**Jeff Schwab** · Feb 9 '08, 09:25 PM

Re: OT: Speed of light [was Re: Why not a Python compiler?]

Grant Edwards wrote:

On 2008-02-09, Thomas Dybdahl Ahle <lobais@gmail.c omwrote:

>On Sat, 2008-02-09 at 14:56 +0100, Martin P. Hellwig wrote:

>>>Propagate, travel, what's the difference?
>>>>
>>Unfortunately , I didn't study any of this but I sure do remember the
>>answer one drunk physic said to me in a bar when I ask him the question:
>>"Does light travel or propagate?"
>>He answered: "Depends on how you see light."
>>He must have studied philosophy too :-)

>Quantum mechanics are closely related to philosophy.

>
I've never understood that claim. You can philosophize about
anything: biology, math, weather, the stars, the moon, and so
on. I don't see how QM is any more related to philosophy than
any other field in science.

Any science with sufficient room for uncertainty (no pun) will
immediately be claimed as evidence for every pseudo-theory ever imagined
over a bowl of bad weed. "Particles can tunnel anywhere? Ahh, that
must be how the telepaths are doing it."

**Bjoern Schliessmann** · Feb 9 '08, 10:45 PM

Re: OT: Star Wars and parsecs

Lou Pecora wrote:
[parsecs]

Which is the Earth's orbit. So, long, long ago in a galaxy far,
far away did they know about the Earth and decide to use it as the
basis for length in the universe? Even before people on earth
defined it?

No, even simpler: In the Star Wars galaxy, parsec is a time unit. We
on earth just accidentally defined a unit with exactly the same
name -- which is a distance unit instead. :)

Regards,

Björn

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**mensanator@aol.com** · Feb 10 '08, 04:15 AM

Re: OT: Star Wars and parsecs [was Re: Why not a Python compiler?]

On Feb 8, 2:53ï¿½pm, Lou Pecora <pec...@anvil.n rl.navy.milwrot e:

In article <13qotf2mgpvk.. .@corp.supernew s.com>,
ï¿½Grant Edwards <gra...@visi.co mwrote:
>

On 2008-02-08, Dennis Lee Bieber <wlfr...@ix.net com.comwrote:

>

ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ A Parsec is a fixed value (which, admittedly, presumes the culture
developed a 360degree circle broken into degrees =minutes =>
seconds... or, at least, some units compatible with the concept of an
"arc second", like 400 grads of, say, 100 "minutes", each of 100
"seconds")

>

It also presumes a standard diamter of that circle.

>
Which is the Earth's orbit. ï¿½So, long, long ago in a galaxy far, far
away did they know about the Earth and decide to use it as the basis for
length in the universe? ï¿½Even before people on earth defined it? ï¿½
>
Or (ominous music builds here, switch to low voice) is it as some now
contend? ï¿½We are the decendents of a long, lost civilization who
colonized Earth and used it as a base for their operations to the point
of adopting it as their own home?
>
... ï¿½You Betcha!
>
:-)

How come they spoke English?

>
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**mani** · Feb 10 '08, 08:25 AM

Re: Why not a Python compiler?

On Feb 6, 2:43 am, "Luis M. González" <luis...@gmail. comwrote:

On 5 feb, 05:19, Santiago Romero <srom...@gmail. comwrote:
>
>
>

( Surely if this question has been asked for a zillion of times... )
( and sorry for my english! )

>

I'm impressed with python. I'm very happy with the language and I
find Python+Pygame a very powerful and productive way of writing 2D
games. I'm not, at this moment, worried about execution speed of the
small game I'm working on (it runs at full 60 fps even in an old AMD-
K6 450 Laptop computer), but I continue asking me the same question: