Question about properties.

[king kikapu]

Hi,

i read in a book the following code snippet that is dealing with
properties:

class ProtectAndHideX (object):
def __init__(self, x):
assert isinstance(x, int), '"x" must be an integer!"'
self.__x = ~x

def get_x(self):
return ~self.__x

x = property(get_x)


Can anyone please help me understand what the symbol "~" does here ??

Thanks for any help!

[dijkstra.arjen@gmail.com]

Re: Question about properties.

On Aug 10, 12:21 pm, king kikapu <aboudou...@pan afonet.grwrote:

Hi,
>
i read in a book the following code snippet that is dealing with
properties:
>
class ProtectAndHideX (object):
def __init__(self, x):
assert isinstance(x, int), '"x" must be an integer!"'
self.__x = ~x
>
def get_x(self):
return ~self.__x
>
x = property(get_x)
>
Can anyone please help me understand what the symbol "~" does here ??
>
Thanks for any help!

>>help(2)

.....
| __invert__(...)
| x.__invert__() <==~x



hth.
Duikboot

[Marc 'BlackJack' Rintsch]

Re: Question about properties.

On Fri, 10 Aug 2007 03:21:29 -0700, king kikapu wrote:

Hi,
>
i read in a book the following code snippet that is dealing with
properties:
>
class ProtectAndHideX (object):
def __init__(self, x):
assert isinstance(x, int), '"x" must be an integer!"'
self.__x = ~x
>
def get_x(self):
return ~self.__x
>
x = property(get_x)
>
>
Can anyone please help me understand what the symbol "~" does here ??

This has nothing to do with properties. For integer objects ``~`` is the
bitwise negation or invertion operator.

Ciao,
Marc 'BlackJack' Rintsch

[king kikapu]

Re: Question about properties.

On Aug 10, 1:33 pm, Marc 'BlackJack' Rintsch <bj_...@gmx.net wrote:

On Fri, 10 Aug 2007 03:21:29 -0700, king kikapu wrote:

Hi,

>

i read in a book the following code snippet that is dealing with
properties:

>

class ProtectAndHideX (object):
def __init__(self, x):
assert isinstance(x, int), '"x" must be an integer!"'
self.__x = ~x

>

def get_x(self):
return ~self.__x

>

x = property(get_x)

>

Can anyone please help me understand what the symbol "~" does here ??

>
This has nothing to do with properties. For integer objects ``~`` is the
bitwise negation or invertion operator.
>
Ciao,
Marc 'BlackJack' Rintsch

Xmmm...ok then but what is actually doing there ?? I removed it and
things seems to work the same way...

[king kikapu]

Re: Question about properties.

Maybe is just a writers' "play" and nothing else.

[Steve Holden]

Re: Question about properties.

king kikapu wrote:

On Aug 10, 1:33 pm, Marc 'BlackJack' Rintsch <bj_...@gmx.net wrote:

>On Fri, 10 Aug 2007 03:21:29 -0700, king kikapu wrote:

>>Hi,
>>i read in a book the following code snippet that is dealing with
>>properties:
>>class ProtectAndHideX (object):
>> def __init__(self, x):
>> assert isinstance(x, int), '"x" must be an integer!"'
>> self.__x = ~x
>> def get_x(self):
>> return ~self.__x
>> x = property(get_x)
>>Can anyone please help me understand what the symbol "~" does here ??

>This has nothing to do with properties. For integer objects ``~`` is the
>bitwise negation or invertion operator.
>>
>Ciao,
> Marc 'BlackJack' Rintsch

>
Xmmm...ok then but what is actually doing there ?? I removed it and
things seems to work the same way...
>

Observe the name of the class. I believe the integer value is inverted
merely as a demonstration that the value can be "obscured" somehow - in
a more complex example the author might have insisted in string values,
the encrypted them. It's not essential to the example, it merely shows
that the value retrieved from the property can be computed from
underlying attributes.

regards
Steve
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[Antti Rasinen]

Re: Question about properties.

Hi,
>
i read in a book the following code snippet that is dealing with
properties:
>
class ProtectAndHideX (object):
def __init__(self, x):
assert isinstance(x, int), '"x" must be an integer!"'
self.__x = ~x
>
def get_x(self):
return ~self.__x
>
x = property(get_x)
>
>
Can anyone please help me understand what the symbol "~" does here ??

My guess is that the example tries to show that it does not matter how the
property computes the value. You can -- if you want -- to store integers
as their bit-inverted versions (the ~ operator) and then do the conversion
when getting the property value.

Assume you initialized the object with ProtectAndHideX (4). Outside the
object you don't have access to the original __x. And! Even if you changed
the name of the variable name to y, you'd have hidden_x.y == -5 instead of
4.

The example is very contrived. There might be some security related cases
where you need to hide what you store in memory, though. (Hopefully they
do more than just invert the bits! :)

NB: I don't know what the original author was thinking here -- my
telepathy isn't what it used to be.

--
[ Antti Rasinen <*ars@iki.fi ]

[Dustan]

Re: Question about properties.

On Aug 10, 5:31 am, dijkstra.ar...@ gmail.com wrote:

On Aug 10, 12:21 pm, king kikapu <aboudou...@pan afonet.grwrote:
>
>
>

Hi,

>

i read in a book the following code snippet that is dealing with
properties:

>

class ProtectAndHideX (object):
def __init__(self, x):
assert isinstance(x, int), '"x" must be an integer!"'
self.__x = ~x

>

def get_x(self):
return ~self.__x

>

x = property(get_x)

>

Can anyone please help me understand what the symbol "~" does here ??

>

Thanks for any help!

>help(2)

>
....
| __invert__(...)
| x.__invert__() <==~x
>
hth.
Duikboot

http://docs.python.org/ref/unary.html

The unary ~ (invert) operator yields the bit-wise inversion of its
plain or long integer argument. The bit-wise inversion of x is defined
as -(x+1). It only applies to integral numbers.

[Gerardo Herzig]

Re: Question about properties.

king kikapu wrote:

>On Aug 10, 1:33 pm, Marc 'BlackJack' Rintsch <bj_...@gmx.net wrote:
>
>

>>On Fri, 10 Aug 2007 03:21:29 -0700, king kikapu wrote:
>>
>>

>>>Hi,
>>>
>>>
>>>i read in a book the following code snippet that is dealing with
>>>properties :
>>>
>>>
>>>class ProtectAndHideX (object):
>> def __init__(self, x):
>> assert isinstance(x, int), '"x" must be an integer!"'
>> self.__x = ~x
>>>
>>>
>> def get_x(self):
>> return ~self.__x
>>>
>>>
>> x = property(get_x)
>>>
>>>
>>>Can anyone please help me understand what the symbol "~" does here ??
>>>
>>>

>>This has nothing to do with properties. For integer objects ``~`` is the
>>bitwise negation or invertion operator.
>>
>>Ciao,
> Marc 'BlackJack' Rintsch
>>
>>

>
>Xmmm...ok then but what is actually doing there ?? I removed it and
>things seems to work the same way...
>
>
>

I guess it is the `Hide' part of the Protectand*Hide * class.
Gerardo