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  • John Fisher

    #1

    OS X install confusion

    Hi Groupies,

    I have an Intel Macbook running OS X 10.4.

    It came installed with Python 2.3.5. I have since installed MacPython
    with version 2.4.4, cool.

    When I open a bash terminal session and type python, it brings up
    version 2.3.5. If I type IDLE it brings up version 2.4.4.

    My question: what do I have to do to get it to bring up 2.4.4 with the
    "python" command?

    Thanks for bringing light to my ignorance.

    JF
  • Kevin Walzer

    #2
    Re: OS X install confusion

    John Fisher wrote:
    Hi Groupies,
    >
    I have an Intel Macbook running OS X 10.4.
    >
    It came installed with Python 2.3.5. I have since installed MacPython
    with version 2.4.4, cool.
    >
    When I open a bash terminal session and type python, it brings up
    version 2.3.5. If I type IDLE it brings up version 2.4.4.
    >
    My question: what do I have to do to get it to bring up 2.4.4 with the
    "python" command?
    >
    Thanks for bringing light to my ignorance.
    >
    JF
    Sounds like a path problem. Apple's system Python is installed in
    /usr/bin. Your installation is probably in /usr/local/bin. Edit your
    profile or use the full path.

    --
    Kevin Walzer
    Code by Kevin

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    • Ted

      #3
      Re: OS X install confusion

      On Jun 14, 1:31 pm, Kevin Walzer <k...@codebykev in.comwrote:
      John Fisher wrote:
      Hi Groupies,
      >
      I have an Intel Macbook running OS X 10.4.
      >
      It came installed with Python 2.3.5. I have since installed MacPython
      with version 2.4.4, cool.
      >
      When I open a bash terminal session and type python, it brings up
      version 2.3.5. If I type IDLE it brings up version 2.4.4.
      >
      My question: what do I have to do to get it to bring up 2.4.4 with the
      "python" command?
      >
      Thanks for bringing light to my ignorance.
      >
      JF
      >
      Sounds like a path problem. Apple's system Python is installed in
      /usr/bin. Your installation is probably in /usr/local/bin. Edit your
      profile or use the full path.
      >
      --
      Kevin Walzer
      Code by Kevinhttp://www.codebykevin .com
      The default python on tiger (2.3.5) is sym-linked to /usr/bin/python
      and /usr/bin/pythonw.

      I found it easier to relink to the new installation path. This also
      leaves /usr/bin/python23 and /usr/bin/pythonw23 still linked to the
      original version if you want to quickly check something.

      Cheers,
      Ted

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      • John Fisher

        #4
        Re: OS X install confusion

        Ted <tedlandis@gmai l.comwrote:
        On Jun 14, 1:31 pm, Kevin Walzer <k...@codebykev in.comwrote:
        John Fisher wrote:
        Hi Groupies,
        I have an Intel Macbook running OS X 10.4.
        It came installed with Python 2.3.5. I have since installed MacPython
        with version 2.4.4, cool.
        When I open a bash terminal session and type python, it brings up
        version 2.3.5. If I type IDLE it brings up version 2.4.4.
        My question: what do I have to do to get it to bring up 2.4.4 with the
        "python" command?
        Thanks for bringing light to my ignorance.
        JF
        Sounds like a path problem. Apple's system Python is installed in
        /usr/bin. Your installation is probably in /usr/local/bin. Edit your
        profile or use the full path.

        --
        Kevin Walzer
        Code by Kevinhttp://www.codebykevin .com
        >
        The default python on tiger (2.3.5) is sym-linked to /usr/bin/python
        and /usr/bin/pythonw.
        >
        I found it easier to relink to the new installation path. This also
        leaves /usr/bin/python23 and /usr/bin/pythonw23 still linked to the
        original version if you want to quickly check something.
        >
        Cheers,
        Ted
        OK, please give a little more information how I can accomplish this
        "re-link".

        Thanks,

        JF

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        • Paul McNett

          #5
          Re: OS X install confusion

          John Fisher wrote:
          Ted <tedlandis@gmai l.comwrote:
          >
          >On Jun 14, 1:31 pm, Kevin Walzer <k...@codebykev in.comwrote:
          >>John Fisher wrote:
          >>>Hi Groupies,
          >>>I have an Intel Macbook running OS X 10.4.
          >>>It came installed with Python 2.3.5. I have since installed MacPython
          >>>with version 2.4.4, cool.
          >>>When I open a bash terminal session and type python, it brings up
          >>>version 2.3.5. If I type IDLE it brings up version 2.4.4.
          >>>My question: what do I have to do to get it to bring up 2.4.4 with the
          >>>"python" command?
          >>>Thanks for bringing light to my ignorance.
          >>>JF
          >>Sounds like a path problem. Apple's system Python is installed in
          >>/usr/bin. Your installation is probably in /usr/local/bin. Edit your
          >>profile or use the full path.
          >>>
          >>--
          >>Kevin Walzer
          >>Code by Kevinhttp://www.codebykevin .com
          >The default python on tiger (2.3.5) is sym-linked to /usr/bin/python
          >and /usr/bin/pythonw.
          >>
          >I found it easier to relink to the new installation path. This also
          >leaves /usr/bin/python23 and /usr/bin/pythonw23 still linked to the
          >original version if you want to quickly check something.
          >>
          >Cheers,
          >Ted
          >
          OK, please give a little more information how I can accomplish this
          "re-link".
          Your Python 2.5 is likely installed here:

          /Library/Frameworks/Python.framewor k/Versions/Current/bin

          But OS X comes with a "system Python", version 2.3.5, likely installed here:

          /usr/bin

          If you look at /usr/bin, you'll see:

          lrwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 9 Jan 31 17:24 python -python2.3
          lrwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 72 Jan 31 17:24 python2.3 ->
          .../../System/Library/Frameworks/Python.framewor k/Versions/2.3/bin/python
          lrwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 10 Jan 31 17:24 pythonw -pythonw2.3
          -rwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 29704 Aug 19 2006 pythonw2.3

          So, python is linked to python2.3, and python2.3 is in turn linked to
          /System/Library/Frameworks/Python.framewor k/Versions/2.3/bin/python

          You need to (warning: watch for line wrap):

          sudo -s
          <enter your password>
          cd /usr/bin
          ln -s /Library/Frameworks/Python.framewor k/Versions/Current/bin/python
          python_current
          ln -s /Library/Frameworks/Python.framewor k/Versions/Current/bin/pythonw
          pythonw_current
          rm python
          rm pythonw
          ln -s python python_current
          ln -s pythonw pythonw_current

          However, that isn't what I did. I like the system being able to find and
          use the system-installed python, but I like my scripts to use the python
          version I installed (2.5). To get that, skip the above symlinking and
          instead edit your .bash_profile file (hidden file inside your home
          directory) and put these lines at the top:

          PATH="/Library/Frameworks/Python.framewor k/Versions/Current/bin:${PATH}
          export PATH

          --
          pkm ~ http://paulmcnett.com

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          • 7stud

            #6
            Re: OS X install confusion

            On Jun 14, 11:21 am, johnmfis...@com cast.net (John Fisher) wrote:
            Hi Groupies,
            >
            I have an Intel Macbook running OS X 10.4.
            >
            It came installed with Python 2.3.5. I have since installed MacPython
            with version 2.4.4, cool.
            >
            When I open a bash terminal session and type python, it brings up
            version 2.3.5. If I type IDLE it brings up version 2.4.4.
            >
            My question: what do I have to do to get it to bring up 2.4.4 with the
            "python" command?
            >
            Thanks for bringing light to my ignorance.
            >
            JF
            Strange. I installed macpython 2.4.4 on an imac this year, and when I
            type python on the command line of a bash shell, python 2.4.4 starts
            up:

            $ python
            Python 2.4.4 (#1, Oct 18 2006, 10:34:39)
            [GCC 4.0.1 (Apple Computer, Inc. build 5341)] on darwin
            Type "help", "copyright" , "credits" or "license" for more information.
            >>>

            I looked in:

            /System/Library/Frameworks/Python.framewor k/Versions/Current/bin/

            and inside that directory are the programs:

            idle
            pydoc
            python
            python2.3

            So I tried typing python2.3 on the command line, and lo and behold
            python 2.3.5 started up:

            $ python2.3
            Python 2.3.5 (#1, Jul 25 2006, 00:38:48)
            [GCC 4.0.1 (Apple Computer, Inc. build 5363)] on darwin
            Type "help", "copyright" , "credits" or "license" for more information.
            >>>
            So it looks like the macpython install changed the name of the pre-
            installed python program from python to python2.3. What do you see in
            that directory?


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            • 7stud

              #7
              Re: OS X install confusion

              On Jun 14, 6:25 pm, Paul McNett <p...@ulmcnett. comwrote:
              John Fisher wrote:
              Ted <tedlan...@gmai l.comwrote:
              >
              On Jun 14, 1:31 pm, Kevin Walzer <k...@codebykev in.comwrote:
              >John Fisher wrote:
              >>Hi Groupies,
              >>I have an Intel Macbook running OS X 10.4.
              >>It came installed with Python 2.3.5. I have since installed MacPython
              >>with version 2.4.4, cool.
              >>When I open a bash terminal session and type python, it brings up
              >>version 2.3.5. If I type IDLE it brings up version 2.4.4.
              >>My question: what do I have to do to get it to bring up 2.4.4 with the
              >>"python" command?
              >>Thanks for bringing light to my ignorance.
              >>JF
              >Sounds like a path problem. Apple's system Python is installed in
              >/usr/bin. Your installation is probably in /usr/local/bin. Edit your
              >profile or use the full path.
              >
              >--
              >Kevin Walzer
              >Code by Kevinhttp://www.codebykevin .com
              The default python on tiger (2.3.5) is sym-linked to /usr/bin/python
              and /usr/bin/pythonw.
              >
              I found it easier to relink to the new installation path. This also
              leaves /usr/bin/python23 and /usr/bin/pythonw23 still linked to the
              original version if you want to quickly check something.
              >
              Cheers,
              Ted
              >
              OK, please give a little more information how I can accomplish this
              "re-link".
              >
              Your Python 2.5 is likely installed here:
              >
              /Library/Frameworks/Python.framewor k/Versions/Current/bin
              >
              But OS X comes with a "system Python", version 2.3.5, likely installed here:
              >
              /usr/bin
              >
              If you look at /usr/bin, you'll see:
              >
              lrwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 9 Jan 31 17:24 python -python2.3
              lrwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 72 Jan 31 17:24 python2.3 ->
              ../../System/Library/Frameworks/Python.framewor k/Versions/2.3/bin/python
              lrwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 10 Jan 31 17:24 pythonw -pythonw2.3
              -rwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 29704 Aug 19 2006 pythonw2.3
              >
              So, python is linked to python2.3, and python2.3 is in turn linked to
              /System/Library/Frameworks/Python.framewor k/Versions/2.3/bin/python
              >
              You need to (warning: watch for line wrap):
              >
              sudo -s
              <enter your password>
              cd /usr/bin
              ln -s /Library/Frameworks/Python.framewor k/Versions/Current/bin/python
              python_current
              ln -s /Library/Frameworks/Python.framewor k/Versions/Current/bin/pythonw
              pythonw_current
              rm python
              rm pythonw
              ln -s python python_current
              ln -s pythonw pythonw_current
              >
              However, that isn't what I did. I like the system being able to find and
              use the system-installed python, but I like my scripts to use the python
              version I installed (2.5). To get that, skip the above symlinking and
              instead edit your .bash_profile file (hidden file inside your home
              directory) and put these lines at the top:
              >
              PATH="/Library/Frameworks/Python.framewor k/Versions/Current/bin:${PATH}
              export PATH
              >
              --
              pkm ~http://paulmcnett.com
              When I installed macpython 2.4.4, I think the install automatically
              changed the file: Users/me/.bash_profile. Here is what is says at the
              bottom of .bash_profile:

              # Setting PATH for MacPython 2.5 (these lines added by install)
              # The orginal version is saved in .bash_profile.p ysave
              PATH="/Library/Frameworks/Python.framewor k/Versions/Current/bin:$
              {PATH}"
              export PATH


              (Note I installed macpython 2.4.4 but the comment says something about
              python 2.5.)

              Ahh, I think I know what happened to the op's install. I don't think
              imacs come with the file: Users/me/.bash_profile. I had previously
              created the .bash_profile file in order to alter the bash prompt, so
              when I installed macpython 2.4.4, the install modified the pre-
              existing .bash_profile file and added the lines listed above. I bet
              the op didn't have a .bash_profile file on his system, so the install
              didn't make the path changes for him/her.

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