difference between urllib2.urlopen and firefox view 'page source'?

[cjl]

Hi.

I am trying to screen scrape some stock data from yahoo, so I am
trying to use urllib2 to retrieve the html and beautiful soup for the
parsing.

Maybe (most likely) I am doing something wrong, but when I use
urllib2.urlopen to fetch a page, and when I view 'page source' of the
exact same URL in firefox, I am seeing slight differences in the raw
html.

Do I need to set a browser agent so yahoo thinks urllib2 is firefox?
Is yahoo detecting that urllib2 doesn't process javascript, and
passing different data?

-cjl

[zacherates]

Re: difference between urllib2.urlopen and firefox view 'page source'?

On Mar 19, 10:30 pm, "cjl" <cjl...@gmail.c omwrote:

Hi.
>
I am trying to screen scrape some stock data from yahoo, so I am
trying to use urllib2 to retrieve the html and beautiful soup for the
parsing.
>
Maybe (most likely) I am doing something wrong, but when I use
urllib2.urlopen to fetch a page, and when I view 'page source' of the
exact same URL in firefox, I am seeing slight differences in the raw
html.
>
Do I need to set a browser agent so yahoo thinks urllib2 is firefox?
Is yahoo detecting that urllib2 doesn't process javascript, and
passing different data?
>
-cjl

http://developer.yahoo.com/yui/articles/gbs/index.html seems to
indicate that Yahoo! passes you different markup depending on which
grade your browser falls into. I'm not sure I'd spoof your User-
Agent, after all your client is unlikely to support the features that
their looking for in Firefox (javascript, css, SVG).

[Steve Holden]

Re: difference between urllib2.urlopen and firefox view 'page source'?

cjl wrote:

Hi.
>
I am trying to screen scrape some stock data from yahoo, so I am
trying to use urllib2 to retrieve the html and beautiful soup for the
parsing.
>
Maybe (most likely) I am doing something wrong, but when I use
urllib2.urlopen to fetch a page, and when I view 'page source' of the
exact same URL in firefox, I am seeing slight differences in the raw
html.
>
Do I need to set a browser agent so yahoo thinks urllib2 is firefox?
Is yahoo detecting that urllib2 doesn't process javascript, and
passing different data?
>

It's almost certainly a browser detection issue. This may not matter for
your application.

regards
Steve
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[Tina I]

Re: difference between urllib2.urlopen and firefox view 'page source'?

cjl wrote:

Hi.
>
I am trying to screen scrape some stock data from yahoo, so I am
trying to use urllib2 to retrieve the html and beautiful soup for the
parsing.
>
Maybe (most likely) I am doing something wrong, but when I use
urllib2.urlopen to fetch a page, and when I view 'page source' of the
exact same URL in firefox, I am seeing slight differences in the raw
html.
>
Do I need to set a browser agent so yahoo thinks urllib2 is firefox?
Is yahoo detecting that urllib2 doesn't process javascript, and
passing different data?
>
-cjl
>

Unless the data you you need depends on the site detecting a specific
browser you will probably receive a 'cleaner' code that's more easily
parsed if you don't set a user agent. Usually the browser optimization
they do is just eye candy, bells and whistles anyway in order to give
you a more 'pleasing experience'. I doubt that your program will care
about that ;)

Tina

[kyosohma@gmail.com]

Re: difference between urllib2.urlopen and firefox view 'page source'?

On Mar 20, 1:56 am, Tina I <tina...@bestem selv.comwrote:

cjl wrote:

Hi.

>

I am trying to screen scrape some stock data from yahoo, so I am
trying to use urllib2 to retrieve the html and beautiful soup for the
parsing.

>

Maybe (most likely) I am doing something wrong, but when I use
urllib2.urlopen to fetch a page, and when I view 'page source' of the
exact same URL in firefox, I am seeing slight differences in the raw
html.

>

Do I need to set a browser agent so yahoo thinks urllib2 is firefox?
Is yahoo detecting that urllib2 doesn't process javascript, and
passing different data?

>

-cjl

>
Unless the data you you need depends on the site detecting a specific
browser you will probably receive a 'cleaner' code that's more easily
parsed if you don't set a user agent. Usually the browser optimization
they do is just eye candy, bells and whistles anyway in order to give
you a more 'pleasing experience'. I doubt that your program will care
about that ;)
>
Tina

You can do this fairly easily. I found a similar program in the book
Core Python Programming. It actually sticks the stocks into an Excel
spreadsheet. The code is below. You can easily modify it to send the
output elsewhere.


# Core Python Chp 23, pg 994
# estock.pyw

from Tkinter import Tk
from time import sleep, ctime
from tkMessageBox import showwarning
from urllib import urlopen
import win32com.client as win32

warn = lambda app: showwarning(app , 'Exit?')
RANGE = range(3, 8)
TICKS = ('AMZN', 'AMD', 'EBAY', 'GOOG', 'MSFT', 'YHOO')
COLS = ('TICKER', 'PRICE', 'CHG', '%AGE')
URL = 'http://quote.yahoo.com/d/quotes.csv?s=%s &f=sl1c1p2'

def excel():
app = 'Excel'
xl = win32.gencache. EnsureDispatch( '%s.Application ' % app)
ss = xl.Workbooks.Ad d()
sh = ss.ActiveSheet
xl.Visible = True
sleep(1)

sh.Cells(1, 1).Value = 'Python-to-%s Stock Quote Demo' % app
sleep(1)
sh.Cells(3, 1).Value = 'Prices quoted as of: %s' % ctime()
sleep(1)
for i in range(4):
sh.Cells(5, i+1).Value = COLS[i]
sleep(1)
sh.Range(sh.Cel ls(5, 1), sh.Cells(5, 4)).Font.Bold = True
sleep(1)
row = 6

u = urlopen(URL % ','.join(TICKS) )
for data in u:
tick, price, chg, per = data.split(',')
sh.Cells(row, 1).Value = eval(tick)
sh.Cells(row, 2).Value = ('%.2f' % round(float(pri ce), 2))
sh.Cells(row, 3).Value = chg
sh.Cells(row, 4).Value = eval(per.rstrip ())
row += 1
sleep(1)
u.close()

warn(app)
ss.Close(False)
xl.Application. Quit()


if __name__ == '__main__':
Tk().withdraw()
excel()

# Have fun - Mike

[John Nagle]

Re: difference between urllib2.urlopen and firefox view 'page source'?

Here's a useful online tool that might help you see what's happening:

http://www.sitetruth.com/experimental/viewer.html

We use this to help webmasters see what our web crawler is seeing.

This reads a page, using Python and FancyURLOpener, with a
USER-AGENT string of "SiteTruth. com site rating system."
Then it parses the page with BeautifulSoup, removes all
<SCRIPT>, <EMBED>, and <OBJECTtags, makes all the links
absolute, then writes the page back out in UTF-8 Unicode.
The resulting cleaned-up page is displayed.

If the page you're trying to read looks OK with our viewer,
you should be able to read it from Python with no problems.

John Nagle

cjl wrote:

Hi.
>
I am trying to screen scrape some stock data from yahoo, so I am
trying to use urllib2 to retrieve the html and beautiful soup for the
parsing.
>
Maybe (most likely) I am doing something wrong, but when I use
urllib2.urlopen to fetch a page, and when I view 'page source' of the
exact same URL in firefox, I am seeing slight differences in the raw
html.
>
Do I need to set a browser agent so yahoo thinks urllib2 is firefox?
Is yahoo detecting that urllib2 doesn't process javascript, and
passing different data?
>
-cjl
>