Re-installing Numeric and PIL Files

[W. Watson]

For some reason Python 2.2.4 cannot find the Numeric module. It's been
suggested that I should re-install the Numeric file. How do that? Also the
PIL. The three install files are:
python-2.4.4.msi
PIL-1.1.5.win32-py2.4.exe
Numeric-24.2.win32-py2.4.exe


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[Robert Kern]

Re: Re-installing Numeric and PIL Files

W. Watson wrote:

For some reason Python 2.2.4 cannot find the Numeric module. It's been
suggested that I should re-install the Numeric file. How do that? Also the
PIL. The three install files are:
python-2.4.4.msi
PIL-1.1.5.win32-py2.4.exe
Numeric-24.2.win32-py2.4.exe

The latter two are executable installers. Run them.

--
Robert Kern

"I have come to believe that the whole world is an enigma, a harmless enigma
that is made terrible by our own mad attempt to interpret it as though it had
an underlying truth."
-- Umberto Eco

[W. Watson]

Re: Re-installing Numeric and PIL Files

Robert Kern wrote:

W. Watson wrote:

>For some reason Python 2.2.4 cannot find the Numeric module. It's been
>suggested that I should re-install the Numeric file. How do that? Also the
>PIL. The three install files are:
>python-2.4.4.msi
>PIL-1.1.5.win32-py2.4.exe
>Numeric-24.2.win32-py2.4.exe

>
The latter two are executable installers. Run them.
>

I have re-run Numeric. The python program still cannot detect the Numeric
module. In IDLE, Run Modules shows:

Traceback (most recent call last):
File
"C:\Sandia_Mete ors\NewSentinel \Test_Install_Y G\Python_Instal l\sentuser.py",
line 8, in <module>
from Numeric import *
ImportError: No module named Numeric

sentuser.py looks like:
#!/usr/bin/python

# Sentinel User Program
# J C Chavez
# jochave@sandia. gov

from Tkinter import *
from Numeric import *
import Image
import ImageChops
import ImageTk
....


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[Matimus]

Re: Re-installing Numeric and PIL Files

For some reason Python 2.2.4 cannot find the Numeric module. It's been

Is this a typo, or are you really using 2.2.4? If so, you are going to
have to get the versions of Numeric and PIL that work with Python 2.2.
Or, alternatively, you can install python 2.4.4 with the .msi file you
listed. You should also be able to run that just like an executable if
you are using Windows XP. Based on the assumption that you have Python
2.2 installed, this will leave you with two version of Python, which
will work, but could be tricky. It might be best to just uninstall and
reinstall Python.

-Matt

[W. Watson]

Re: Re-installing Numeric and PIL Files

Matimus wrote:

>For some reason Python 2.2.4 cannot find the Numeric module. It's been

>
Is this a typo, or are you really using 2.2.4? If so, you are going to
have to get the versions of Numeric and PIL that work with Python 2.2.
Or, alternatively, you can install python 2.4.4 with the .msi file you
listed. You should also be able to run that just like an executable if
you are using Windows XP. Based on the assumption that you have Python
2.2 installed, this will leave you with two version of Python, which
will work, but could be tricky. It might be best to just uninstall and
reinstall Python.
>
-Matt
>

Yes, a typo. 2.4.4.

What is installed is:
python-2.4.4.msi
PIL-1.1.5.win32-py2.4.exe
Numeric-24.2.win32-py2.4.exe


Wayne T. Watson (Watson Adventures, Prop., Nevada City, CA)
(121.015 Deg. W, 39.262 Deg. N) GMT-8 hr std. time)
Obz Site: 39° 15' 7" N, 121° 2' 32" W, 2700 feet

'I think it not improbable that man, like the grub that
prepares a chamber for the winged thing it has never seen but
is to be, may have... destinies that he does not understand."
-- Oliver Wendell Holmes
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[W. Watson]

Re: Re-installing Numeric and PIL Files

BTW, I found a RemoveNumeric.e xe and RemovePIL.exe in the C/Python24 folder,
but when I try to execute them, they produce a message about only being able
to use them at start-up.

[Robert Kern]

Re: Re-installing Numeric and PIL Files

W. Watson wrote:

Robert Kern wrote:

>W. Watson wrote:

>>For some reason Python 2.2.4 cannot find the Numeric module. It's been
>>suggested that I should re-install the Numeric file. How do that? Also the
>>PIL. The three install files are:
>>python-2.4.4.msi
>>PIL-1.1.5.win32-py2.4.exe
>>Numeric-24.2.win32-py2.4.exe

>The latter two are executable installers. Run them.
>>

I have re-run Numeric. The python program still cannot detect the Numeric
module.

Well, check to make sure that the Python executable is the one that you think it
is. You can look at sys.executable to find the actual .exe of the running Python
interpreter. With Python 2.4.4 and a standard installation, it should be
c:\Python24\pyt hon.exe I believe. Then check to make sure that Numeric and PIL
are actually installed in c:\Python24\Lib \site-packages\ .

--
Robert Kern

"I have come to believe that the whole world is an enigma, a harmless enigma
that is made terrible by our own mad attempt to interpret it as though it had
an underlying truth."
-- Umberto Eco

[W. Watson]

Re: Re-installing Numeric and PIL Files

Robert Kern wrote:

W. Watson wrote:

>Robert Kern wrote:

>>W. Watson wrote:
>>>For some reason Python 2.2.4 cannot find the Numeric module. It's been
>>>suggested that I should re-install the Numeric file. How do that? Also the
>>>PIL. The three install files are:
>>>python-2.4.4.msi
>>>PIL-1.1.5.win32-py2.4.exe
>>>Numeric-24.2.win32-py2.4.exe
>>The latter two are executable installers. Run them.
>>>

>I have re-run Numeric. The python program still cannot detect the Numeric
>module.

>
Well, check to make sure that the Python executable is the one that you think it
is. You can look at sys.executable to find the actual .exe of the running Python
interpreter. With Python 2.4.4 and a standard installation, it should be
c:\Python24\pyt hon.exe I believe. Then check to make sure that Numeric and PIL
are actually installed in c:\Python24\Lib \site-packages\ .
>

This may be a good clue. I'm not the author of the sentuser.py program that
I'm using 2.4 for. It's an application meant for another PC. On that
machine, I only have 2.4 installed. I decided to learn Python a few weeks
ago and installed 2.5.It's quite possible there's some confusion with the
just installed application. I have not yet started my education on python,
so know little about it.

I did a search in the python24 folder for sys.exec* (in c:\python24), but
came up with nothing. [nothing in a search of c:--sys.exec*] I have two
python folders, c:\python24 and c:\python25. The contents of both folders
look fairly similar and each have a python.exe. I do not use a PIL or
Numeric in 2.5.


Wayne T. Watson (Watson Adventures, Prop., Nevada City, CA)
(121.015 Deg. W, 39.262 Deg. N) GMT-8 hr std. time)
Obz Site: 39° 15' 7" N, 121° 2' 32" W, 2700 feet

'I think it not improbable that man, like the grub that
prepares a chamber for the winged thing it has never seen but
is to be, may have... destinies that he does not understand."
-- Oliver Wendell Holmes
--
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[Robert Kern]

Re: Re-installing Numeric and PIL Files

W. Watson wrote:

I did a search in the python24 folder for sys.exec* (in c:\python24), but
came up with nothing. [nothing in a search of c:--sys.exec*] I have two
python folders, c:\python24 and c:\python25. The contents of both folders
look fairly similar and each have a python.exe. I do not use a PIL or
Numeric in 2.5.

I'm sorry. sys is a module. I meant for you to execute the following Python code:

import sys
print sys.executable

--
Robert Kern

"I have come to believe that the whole world is an enigma, a harmless enigma
that is made terrible by our own mad attempt to interpret it as though it had
an underlying truth."
-- Umberto Eco

[W. Watson]

Re: Re-installing Numeric and PIL Files

Robert Kern wrote:

W. Watson wrote:
>

>I did a search in the python24 folder for sys.exec* (in c:\python24), but
>came up with nothing. [nothing in a search of c:--sys.exec*] I have two
>python folders, c:\python24 and c:\python25. The contents of both folders
>look fairly similar and each have a python.exe. I do not use a PIL or
>Numeric in 2.5.

>
I'm sorry. sys is a module. I meant for you to execute the following Python code:
>
import sys
print sys.executable
>

I'm savvy about a number of languages, but not yet about Python. What py
file will allow this to be executed?

main myprog
{
import sys
print sys.executable
pause
} ??




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[Robert Kern]

Re: Re-installing Numeric and PIL Files

W. Watson wrote:

Robert Kern wrote:

>W. Watson wrote:
>>

>>I did a search in the python24 folder for sys.exec* (in c:\python24), but
>>came up with nothing. [nothing in a search of c:--sys.exec*] I have two
>>python folders, c:\python24 and c:\python25. The contents of both folders
>>look fairly similar and each have a python.exe. I do not use a PIL or
>>Numeric in 2.5.

>I'm sorry. sys is a module. I meant for you to execute the following Python code:
>>
> import sys
> print sys.executable
>>

I'm savvy about a number of languages, but not yet about Python. What py
file will allow this to be executed?

Just the lines between the comments here:

####
import sys
print sys.executable
####

I recommend going through the tutorial first, before worrying about Numeric or
PIL. Here is the URL for the 2.4.4 version:

http://www.python.org/doc/2.4.4/tut/tut.html

--
Robert Kern

"I have come to believe that the whole world is an enigma, a harmless enigma
that is made terrible by our own mad attempt to interpret it as though it had
an underlying truth."
-- Umberto Eco

[W. Watson]

Re: Re-installing Numeric and PIL Files

Robert Kern wrote:

W. Watson wrote:

>Robert Kern wrote:

>>W. Watson wrote:
>>>
>>>I did a search in the python24 folder for sys.exec* (in c:\python24), but
>>>came up with nothing. [nothing in a search of c:--sys.exec*] I have two
>>>python folders, c:\python24 and c:\python25. The contents of both folders
>>>look fairly similar and each have a python.exe. I do not use a PIL or
>>>Numeric in 2.5.
>>I'm sorry. sys is a module. I meant for you to execute the following Python code:
>>>
>> import sys
>> print sys.executable
>>>

>I'm savvy about a number of languages, but not yet about Python. What py
>file will allow this to be executed?

>
Just the lines between the comments here:
>
####
import sys
print sys.executable
####
>
I recommend going through the tutorial first, before worrying about Numeric or
PIL. Here is the URL for the 2.4.4 version:
>

http://www.python.org/doc/2.4.4/tut/tut.html

>

Here's the program I ran.

### begin
#!/usr/bin/python

# Check mysys

import sys
print sys.executable

### end

It put up a black screen in a flash and disappeared.

Wayne T. Watson (Watson Adventures, Prop., Nevada City, CA)
(121.015 Deg. W, 39.262 Deg. N) GMT-8 hr std. time)
Obz Site: 39° 15' 7" N, 121° 2' 32" W, 2700 feet

"Humans aren't the first species to alter the atmosphere; that
distinction belongs to early bacteria, which some two million
years ago, invented photosynthesis.
-- Field Notes from a Catastrophe, Kolbert

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[Robert Kern]

Re: Re-installing Numeric and PIL Files

W. Watson wrote:

Here's the program I ran.
>
### begin
#!/usr/bin/python
>
# Check mysys
>
import sys
print sys.executable
>
### end
>
It put up a black screen in a flash and disappeared.

Run it from the terminal or execute those lines in the interactive interpreter
in IDLE. Also, you may want to use the Tutor list, instead of comp.lang.pytho n.
It is more geared towards the questions you are asking.

http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/tutor

--
Robert Kern

"I have come to believe that the whole world is an enigma, a harmless enigma
that is made terrible by our own mad attempt to interpret it as though it had
an underlying truth."
-- Umberto Eco

[W. Watson]

Re: Re-installing Numeric and PIL Files

Robert Kern wrote:

W. Watson wrote:
>

>Here's the program I ran.
>>
>### begin
>#!/usr/bin/python
>>
># Check mysys
>>
>import sys
>print sys.executable
>>
>### end
>>
>It put up a black screen in a flash and disappeared.

>
Run it from the terminal or execute those lines in the interactive interpreter
in IDLE. Also, you may want to use the Tutor list, instead of comp.lang.pytho n.
It is more geared towards the questions you are asking.
>

http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/tutor

>

I entered each line in the shell, and the output shows
C:\Python25\pyt honw.exe, so it's not using 2.4. How do I change that?


Wayne T. Watson (Watson Adventures, Prop., Nevada City, CA)
(121.015 Deg. W, 39.262 Deg. N) GMT-8 hr std. time)
Obz Site: 39° 15' 7" N, 121° 2' 32" W, 2700 feet

"Humans aren't the first species to alter the atmosphere; that
distinction belongs to early bacteria, which some two million
years ago, invented photosynthesis.
-- Field Notes from a Catastrophe, Kolbert

--
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[W. Watson]

Re: Re-installing Numeric and PIL Files

Robert Kern wrote:

W. Watson wrote:
>

>Here's the program I ran.
>>
>### begin
>#!/usr/bin/python
>>
># Check mysys
>>
>import sys
>print sys.executable
>>
>### end
>>
>It put up a black screen in a flash and disappeared.

>
Run it from the terminal or execute those lines in the interactive interpreter
in IDLE. Also, you may want to use the Tutor list, instead of comp.lang.pytho n.
It is more geared towards the questions you are asking.
>

http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/tutor

>

I entered each line in the shell, and the output shows
C:\Python25\pyt honw.exe, so it's not using 2.4. How do I change that?


Wayne T. Watson (Watson Adventures, Prop., Nevada City, CA)
(121.015 Deg. W, 39.262 Deg. N) GMT-8 hr std. time)
Obz Site: 39° 15' 7" N, 121° 2' 32" W, 2700 feet

"Humans aren't the first species to alter the atmosphere; that
distinction belongs to early bacteria, which some two million
years ago, invented photosynthesis.
-- Field Notes from a Catastrophe, Kolbert

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