Any python scripts to do parallel downloading?

[Frank Potter]

I want to find a multithreaded downloading lib in python,
can someone recommend one for me, please?
Thanks~

[Michele Simionato]

Re: Any python scripts to do parallel downloading?

On Jan 31, 5:23 pm, "Frank Potter" <could....@gmai l.comwrote:

I want to find a multithreaded downloading lib in python,
can someone recommend one for me, please?
Thanks~

Why do you want to use threads for that? Twisted is the
obvious solution for your problem, but you may use any
asynchronous framework, as for instance the good ol
Tkinter:

"""
Example of asynchronous programming with Tkinter. Download 10 times
the same URL.
"""

import sys, urllib, itertools, Tkinter

URL = 'http://docs.python.org/dev/lib/module-urllib.html'

class Downloader(obje ct):
chunk = 1024

def __init__(self, urls, frame):
self.urls = urls
self.downloads = [self.download(i ) for i in range(len(urls) )]
self.tkvars = []
self.tklabels = []
for url in urls:
var = Tkinter.StringV ar(frame)
lbl = Tkinter.Label(f rame, textvar=var)
lbl.pack()
self.tkvars.app end(var)
self.tklabels.a ppend(lbl)
frame.pack()

def download(self, i):
src = urllib.urlopen( self.urls[i])
size = int(src.info()['Content-Length'])
for block in itertools.count ():
chunk = src.read(self.c hunk)
if not chunk: break
percent = block * self.chunk * 100/size
msg = '%s: downloaded %2d%% of %s K' % (
self.urls[i], percent, size/1024)
self.tkvars[i].set(msg)
yield None
self.tkvars[i].set('Downloade d %s' % self.urls[i])

if __name__ == '__main__':
root = Tkinter.Tk()
frame = Tkinter.Frame(r oot)
downloader = Downloader([URL] * 10, frame)
def next(cycle):
try:
cycle.next().ne xt()
except StopIteration:
pass
root.after(50, next, cycle)
root.after(0, next, itertools.cycle (downloader.dow nloads))
root.mainloop()


Michele Simionato

[Carl J. Van Arsdall]

Re: Any python scripts to do parallel downloading?

Michele Simionato wrote:

On Jan 31, 5:23 pm, "Frank Potter" <could....@gmai l.comwrote:
>

>I want to find a multithreaded downloading lib in python,
>can someone recommend one for me, please?
>Thanks~
>>

>
Why do you want to use threads for that? Twisted is the
obvious solution for your problem, but you may use any
asynchronous framework, as for instance the good ol
>

Well, since it will be io based, why not use threads? They are easy to
use and it would do the job just fine. Then leverage some other
technology on top of that.

You could go as far as using wget via os.system() in a thread, if the
app is simple enough.

def getSite(site):
os.system('wget %s',site)

threadList =[]
for site in websiteList:
threadList.appe nd(threading.Th read( target=getSite, args=(site,)))

for thread in threadList:
thread.start()

for thread in threadList:
thread.join()

Tkinter:
>
"""
Example of asynchronous programming with Tkinter. Download 10 times
the same URL.
"""
>
import sys, urllib, itertools, Tkinter
>
URL = 'http://docs.python.org/dev/lib/module-urllib.html'
>
class Downloader(obje ct):
chunk = 1024
>
def __init__(self, urls, frame):
self.urls = urls
self.downloads = [self.download(i ) for i in range(len(urls) )]
self.tkvars = []
self.tklabels = []
for url in urls:
var = Tkinter.StringV ar(frame)
lbl = Tkinter.Label(f rame, textvar=var)
lbl.pack()
self.tkvars.app end(var)
self.tklabels.a ppend(lbl)
frame.pack()
>
def download(self, i):
src = urllib.urlopen( self.urls[i])
size = int(src.info()['Content-Length'])
for block in itertools.count ():
chunk = src.read(self.c hunk)
if not chunk: break
percent = block * self.chunk * 100/size
msg = '%s: downloaded %2d%% of %s K' % (
self.urls[i], percent, size/1024)
self.tkvars[i].set(msg)
yield None
self.tkvars[i].set('Downloade d %s' % self.urls[i])
>
if __name__ == '__main__':
root = Tkinter.Tk()
frame = Tkinter.Frame(r oot)
downloader = Downloader([URL] * 10, frame)
def next(cycle):
try:
cycle.next().ne xt()
except StopIteration:
pass
root.after(50, next, cycle)
root.after(0, next, itertools.cycle (downloader.dow nloads))
root.mainloop()
>
>
Michele Simionato
>
>

--

Carl J. Van Arsdall
cvanarsdall@mvi sta.com
Build and Release
MontaVista Software

[Carl Banks]

Re: Any python scripts to do parallel downloading?

Michele Simionato wrote:

On Jan 31, 5:23 pm, "Frank Potter" <could....@gmai l.comwrote:

I want to find a multithreaded downloading lib in python,
can someone recommend one for me, please?
Thanks~

>
Why do you want to use threads for that? Twisted is the
obvious solution for your problem,

Overkill? Just to download a few web pages? You've got to be
kidding.

but you may use any
asynchronous framework, as for instance the good ol
Tkinter:

Well, of all the things you can use threads for, this is probably the
simplest, so I don't see any reason to prefer asynchronous method
unless you're used to it. One Queue for dispatching should be enough
to synchronize everything; maybe a Queue or simple lock at end as well
depending on the need.

The OP might not even care whether it's threaded or asynchronous.


Carl Banks

[Michele Simionato]

Re: Any python scripts to do parallel downloading?

On Jan 31, 9:24 pm, "Carl Banks" <pavlovevide... @gmail.comwrote :

Well, of all the things you can use threads for, this is probably the
simplest, so I don't see any reason to prefer asynchronous method
unless you're used to it.

Well, actually there is a reason why I prefer the asynchronous
approach even for the simplest things:
I can stop my program at any time with CTRL-C. When developing a
threaded program, or I implement a
mechanism for stopping the threads (which should be safe enough to
survive the bugs introduced
while I develop, BTW), or I have to resort to kill -9, and I *hate*
that. Especially since kill -9 does not
honor try .. finally statements.
In short, I prefer to avoid threads, *especially* for the simplest
things.
I use threads only when I am forced to, typically when I am using a
multithreaded framework
interacting with a database.

Michele Simionato

[Michele Simionato]

Re: Any python scripts to do parallel downloading?

On Jan 31, 8:31 pm, "Carl J. Van Arsdall" <cvanarsd...@mv ista.com>
wrote:

>
Well, since it will be io based, why not use threads? They are easy to
use and it would do the job just fine. Then leverage some other
technology on top of that.
>
You could go as far as using wget via os.system() in a thread, if the
app is simple enough.

Calling os.system in a thread look really perverse to me, you would
loose CTRL-C without any benefit.
Why not to use subprocess.Pope n instead?

I am unhappy with the current situation in Python. Whereas for most
things Python is such that the simplest
things look simple, this is not the case for threads. Unfortunately we
have a threading module in the
standard library, but not a "Twisted for pedestrian" module, so people
overlook the simplest solution
in favor of the complex one.
Another thing I miss is a facility to run an iterator in the Tkinter
mainloop: since Tkinter is not thread-safe,
writing a multiple-download progress bar in Tkinter using threads is
definitely less obvious than running
an iterator in the main loop, as I discovered the hard way. Writing a
facility to run iterators in Twisted
is a three-liner, but it is not already there, nor standard :-(

Michele Simionato

[Michele Simionato]

Re: Any python scripts to do parallel downloading?

On Feb 1, 1:43 pm, Jean-Paul Calderone <exar...@divmod .comwrote:

On 31 Jan 2007 22:02:36 -0800, Michele Simionato <michele.simion ...@gmail.comwr ote:

Another thing I miss is a facility to run an iterator in the Tkinter
mainloop: since Tkinter is not thread-safe,
writing a multiple-download progress bar in Tkinter using threads is
definitely less obvious than running
an iterator in the main loop, as I discovered the hard way. Writing a
facility to run iterators in Twisted
is a three-liner, but it is not already there, nor standard :-(

>
Have you seen the recently introduced twisted.interne t.task.coiterat e()?
It sounds like it might be what you're after.

Ops! There is a misprint here, I meant "writing a facility to run
iterators in TKINTER",
not in Twisted. Twisted has already everything, even too much. I would
like to have
a better support for asynchronous programming in the standard library,
for people
not needing the full power of Twisted. I also like to keep my
dependencies at a minimum.

Michele Simionato

[Carl Banks]

Re: Any python scripts to do parallel downloading?

On Jan 31, 3:37 pm, Jean-Paul Calderone <exar...@divmod .comwrote:

On 31 Jan 2007 12:24:21 -0800, Carl Banks <pavlovevide... @gmail.comwrote :
>

Michele Simionato wrote:

On Jan 31, 5:23 pm, "Frank Potter" <could....@gmai l.comwrote:
I want to find a multithreaded downloading lib in python,
can someone recommend one for me, please?
Thanks~

>

Why do you want to use threads for that? Twisted is the
obvious solution for your problem,

>

Overkill? Just to download a few web pages? You've got to be
kidding.

>
Better "overkill" (whatever that is) than wasting time re-implementing
the same boring thing over and over for no reason.

"I need to download some web pages in parallel."

"Here's tremendously large and complex framework. Download, install,
and learn this large and complex framework. Then you can write your
very simple throwaway script with ease."

Is the twisted solution even shorter? Doing this with threads I'm
thinking would be on the order of 20 lines of code.


Carl Banks

[Carl Banks]

Re: Any python scripts to do parallel downloading?

On Feb 1, 9:20 am, Jean-Paul Calderone <exar...@divmod .comwrote:

On 1 Feb 2007 06:14:40 -0800, Carl Banks <pavlovevide... @gmail.comwrote :
>
>
>

On Jan 31, 3:37 pm, Jean-Paul Calderone <exar...@divmod .comwrote:

On 31 Jan 2007 12:24:21 -0800, Carl Banks <pavlovevide... @gmail.comwrote :

>

Michele Simionato wrote:
On Jan 31, 5:23 pm, "Frank Potter" <could....@gmai l.comwrote:
I want to find a multithreaded downloading lib in python,
can someone recommend one for me, please?
Thanks~

>

Why do you want to use threads for that? Twisted is the
obvious solution for your problem,

>

Overkill? Just to download a few web pages? You've got to be
kidding.

>

Better "overkill" (whatever that is) than wasting time re-implementing
the same boring thing over and over for no reason.

>

"I need to download some web pages in parallel."

>

"Here's tremendously large and complex framework. Download, install,
and learn this large and complex framework. Then you can write your
very simple throwaway script with ease."

>

Is the twisted solution even shorter? Doing this with threads I'm
thinking would be on the order of 20 lines of code.

>
The /already written/ solution I linked to in my original response was five
lines shorter than that.

And I suppose "re-implementing the same boring thing over and over" is
ok if it's 15 lines but is too much to bear if it's 20 (irrespective
of the additional large framework the former requires).


Carl Banks

[Carl Banks]

Re: Any python scripts to do parallel downloading?

On Feb 1, 12:40 am, "Michele Simionato" <michele.simion ...@gmail.com>
wrote:

On Jan 31, 9:24 pm, "Carl Banks" <pavlovevide... @gmail.comwrote :
>

Well, of all the things you can use threads for, this is probably the
simplest, so I don't see any reason to prefer asynchronous method
unless you're used to it.

>
Well, actually there is a reason why I prefer the asynchronous
approach even for the simplest things:
I can stop my program at any time with CTRL-C. When developing a
threaded program, or I implement a
mechanism for stopping the threads (which should be safe enough to
survive the bugs introduced
while I develop, BTW), or I have to resort to kill -9, and I *hate*
that. Especially since kill -9 does not
honor try .. finally statements.
In short, I prefer to avoid threads, *especially* for the simplest
things.
I use threads only when I am forced to, typically when I am using a
multithreaded framework
interacting with a database.

Fair enough.

I'm just saying that just because something is good for funded,
important, enterprise tasks, it doesn't mean very simple stuff
automatically has to use it as well. For Pete's sake, even Perl works
for simple scripts.


Carl Banks