"Correct" db adapter

[king kikapu]

Hi to all,

i have started a month ago to seriously studying Python. I am now
looking at the databases stuff
and i want the opinion of more experienced Python programmers (than
me) at the following :

I see that there are a lot of databases adapters on the net, some
following the DB-API 2.0 and some others do not. I want to use a db-
module that do not tie me down to a specific database and that fully
supports DB-API 2.0
Now i am using Sql Server but who knows about tomorrow.

I started using pyodbc and looking how i can e.x. call stored
procedure with arguments and all that stuff.
This is using ODBC syntac and i found enough info on the net.

Is the approach i took the "correct" one or is there a better db-
module so i can use ?

Thanks in advance

[Laurent Rahuel]

Re: "Correct&q uot; db adapter

Maybe you should take a look at sqlalchemy

king kikapu wrote:

Hi to all,
>
i have started a month ago to seriously studying Python. I am now
looking at the databases stuff
and i want the opinion of more experienced Python programmers (than
me) at the following :
>
I see that there are a lot of databases adapters on the net, some
following the DB-API 2.0 and some others do not. I want to use a db-
module that do not tie me down to a specific database and that fully
supports DB-API 2.0
Now i am using Sql Server but who knows about tomorrow.
>
I started using pyodbc and looking how i can e.x. call stored
procedure with arguments and all that stuff.
This is using ODBC syntac and i found enough info on the net.
>
Is the approach i took the "correct" one or is there a better db-
module so i can use ?
>
Thanks in advance

[Daniel Nogradi]

Re: "Correct&q uot; db adapter

Maybe you should take a look at sqlalchemy

>

Hi to all,

i have started a month ago to seriously studying Python. I am now
looking at the databases stuff
and i want the opinion of more experienced Python programmers (than
me) at the following :

I see that there are a lot of databases adapters on the net, some
following the DB-API 2.0 and some others do not. I want to use a db-
module that do not tie me down to a specific database and that fully
supports DB-API 2.0
Now i am using Sql Server but who knows about tomorrow.

I started using pyodbc and looking how i can e.x. call stored
procedure with arguments and all that stuff.
This is using ODBC syntac and i found enough info on the net.

Is the approach i took the "correct" one or is there a better db-
module so i can use ?

Thanks in advance

>

SQLObject might be of interest to you:
http://sqlobject.org/ it is a DB-API 2.0 compliant ORM.

[king kikapu]

Re: "Correct&q uot; db adapter

Thanks for the replies.

I think i do not need something like ORM, but just a db-module that i
can "work" the database with it.
I just want to know if pyodbc is the "correct" solution to do so or if
it is another db-module that is more
usefull for this job.

[Bruno Desthuilliers]

Re: "Correct&q uot; db adapter

king kikapu a écrit :

Thanks for the replies.
>
I think i do not need something like ORM, but just a db-module that i
can "work" the database with it.

FWIW, SQLAlchemy is not an ORM, but an higher-level API for SQL
integration. The ORM part is an optional feature built on top of this
API. But I'm not sure SQLAlchemy supports SQL Server anyway !-)

I just want to know if pyodbc is the "correct" solution to do so or if
it is another db-module that is more
usefull for this job.

AFAICT:

* there's an experimental MS SQL Server db-module:
http://www.object-craft.com.au/projects/mssql/

* the Win32 extensions offers support for ADO, but then it's not db-api
compliant

* unless you use adodbapi, but I don't know if it's still supported
(last release is 3+ years old):

http://adodbapi.sourceforge.net/

HTH

[Diez B. Roggisch]

Re: "Correct&q uot; db adapter

king kikapu wrote:

Thanks for the replies.
>
I think i do not need something like ORM, but just a db-module that i
can "work" the database with it.
I just want to know if pyodbc is the "correct" solution to do so or if
it is another db-module that is more
usefull for this job.

I think you've got something wrong. There is no such thing as a generic
DB-Adapter, except maybe from the mxODBC which pushes the abstraction to
the ODBC-layer.

If your app is DB-API2.0-compatible, you should be able to more or less just
use your code with different adapters. There are several ways to accomplish
a configurable way, but in the end it boils down to someting like this:

if is_postgres:
import psycopg2 as db
if is_mysql:
import MySQLdb as db

Then db can be used to connect and query the db. A thin layer on top of that
should maybe be written to cover different parameter-styles, but that
shouldn't be too hard.

Diez

[king kikapu]

Re: "Correct&q uot; db adapter

Ok, i see..

Thanks a lot all of you for the help. I know from my Win/.Net/Sql
Server expertise that odbc put a layer in the mix. That's why, for
example, in .Net we have a native SqlClient data provider that talks
to Sql Server directly.

But one of the reasons that i started learning Python, is to NOT to be
tied-up again with ANY company or specific product again (i had enough
MS addiction over these years...). So, based on this direction, i am
using pyodbc, which is DB-API2 compliant and i suppose that the code i
write this way, will have little changes to use another db in the
future.

I dig the net and found that there are several efforts for modules
specific to some databases but some of them are incomplete, faded, or
not db-api2 compliant.

So, i will check mxOdbc and see if there is a reason to use it over
pyodbc.

[Peter Decker]

Re: "Correct&q uot; db adapter

On 1 Feb 2007 02:13:01 -0800, king kikapu <aboudouvas@pan afonet.grwrote:

But one of the reasons that i started learning Python, is to NOT to be
tied-up again with ANY company or specific product again (i had enough
MS addiction over these years...). So, based on this direction, i am
using pyodbc, which is DB-API2 compliant and i suppose that the code i
write this way, will have little changes to use another db in the
future.

I don't know if this product will meet your needs, but I've read
recently on the Dabo list that they've added support for Microsoft SQL
Server. I don't work with databases, so I have no idea how this might
compare to what you're looking at, but I do know that in general their
code is solid and the authors are responsive. So you might want to
check out Dabo:

http://dabodev.com

--

# p.d.

[Alejandro Dubrovsky]

Re: &quot;Correct&q uot; db adapter

Bruno Desthuilliers wrote:

king kikapu a écrit :

>Thanks for the replies.
>>
>I think i do not need something like ORM, but just a db-module that i
>can "work" the database with it.

>
FWIW, SQLAlchemy is not an ORM, but an higher-level API for SQL
integration. The ORM part is an optional feature built on top of this
API. But I'm not sure SQLAlchemy supports SQL Server anyway !-)
>

>I just want to know if pyodbc is the "correct" solution to do so or if
>it is another db-module that is more
>usefull for this job.

>
AFAICT:
>
* there's an experimental MS SQL Server db-module:
http://www.object-craft.com.au/projects/mssql/
>
* the Win32 extensions offers support for ADO, but then it's not db-api
compliant
>
* unless you use adodbapi, but I don't know if it's still supported
(last release is 3+ years old):

http://adodbapi.sourceforge.net/

>
HTH

There's also pymssql <http://pymssql.sourcef orge.net/which works well
enough most of the time.

[king kikapu]

Re: &quot;Correct&q uot; db adapter

Thank you all!