PyMeld for html templates?

Collapse
This topic is closed.
X
X
Collapse
 
  • Page of 1
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts
Previous template Next
  • Sean Schertell
    #1

    PyMeld for html templates?

    I'm trying to decide which template system to get married to. I think
    I've narrowed it down to PyMeld, Cheetah, or Jinja but leaning
    heavily toward PyMeld because I love the idea that your templates are
    *totally* clean and that get manipulated from behind the scenes. This
    seems to be elegantly inline with the Sacred Creed of separation of
    logic from presentation.

    Of course I'm going to try them all but I wonder if anyone has any
    thoughts on PyMeld as a template system for churning out general
    websites?

    One important consideration is that even though PyMeld itself doesn't
    support template inheritance so far as I know, I'll need to
    accomplish that somehow. I want for a URI request to mysite.com/info
    to pull in a layout.html template which will in turn be populated by
    the info.html template. I've already got the URI mapping stuff
    sorted. But how about PyMeld, any ideas on how to do it or whether it
    will even work as I've described?

    Thanks!

    Sean


    :::: DataFly.Net ::::
    Complete Web Services
    Welcome to CS Day - TAMU CS Day
    http://www.datafly.net


    Tags: None
    • Bruno Desthuilliers
      #2
      Re: PyMeld for html templates?

      Sean Schertell a écrit :
      I'm trying to decide which template system to get married to. I think
      I've narrowed it down to PyMeld, Cheetah, or Jinja but leaning heavily
      toward PyMeld because I love the idea that your templates are *totally*
      clean and that get manipulated from behind the scenes. This seems to be
      elegantly inline with the Sacred Creed of separation of logic from
      presentation.
      "separating logic from presentation" is often misunderstood. It should
      really read "separating application logic from presentation logic", not
      "separating presentation logic from html code".
      Of course I'm going to try them all
      The don't forget to have a look at Genshi and Mako too.

      My 2 cents...

        Comment

        • metaperl
          #3
          Re: PyMeld for html templates?


          Sean Schertell wrote:

          >
          Of course I'm going to try them all but I wonder if anyone has any
          thoughts on PyMeld as a template system for churning out general
          websites?
          >
          meld3 evolved from pymeld. I use meld3 -
          http://plope.com/software/meld3/

          this whole style of templating is known as push-style (coined by
          Terence Parr). Most systems are pull-style.

          sorted. But how about PyMeld, any ideas on how to do it or whether it
          will even work as I've described?
          >
          the meat and bread problem: each page has meat and you want to wrap it
          with some standard bread. it's a basic tree rewrite and since meld3
          uses ElementTree underneath, it is a piece of cake.

            Comment

            • Richie Hindle
              #4
              Re: PyMeld for html templates?

              [Sean]
              I wonder if anyone has any thoughts on PyMeld as a template
              system for churning out general websites?
              I'm doing that (but then I would be wouldn't I? 8-)
              http://www.mandant.net is an example - the content of each page comes
              from a file containing just the content, the layout and sidebar are
              defined in a template HTML file, and the navigation is built by a
              Python script. All that is pulled together using PyMeld into a set of
              HTML files and deployed to the web server (there's no need to it on the
              fly for that site, but you certainly could).
              I want for a URI request to mysite.com/info
              to pull in a layout.html template which will in turn be populated by
              the info.html template. [...] how about PyMeld, any ideas on how
              to do it or whether it will even work as I've described?
              You'd do something like this:

              from PyMeld import Meld

              LAYOUT = """<html><head> <title id='title'>The Title</title></head>
              <body><div id='info'>The page information goes here.</div>
              <p id='footer>Copy right Me 2007.</p></body></html>"""

              INFO = """<html><head> <title id='title'>The real title</title></head>
              <body id='info'><p>He re is the info, which would in the real world
              be read from a file.</p></body></html>"""

              page = Meld(LAYOUT)
              info = Meld(INFO)
              page.title = info.title._con tent
              page.info = info.info._cont ent
              print page

              Is that the sort of thing you had in mind?

              --
              Richie Hindle
              richie@entrian. com

                Comment

                • Sean Schertell
                  #5
                  Re: PyMeld for html templates?

                  Thanks Richie! That's exactly the reply I was hoping for.

                  Hooray!

                  Sean



                  On Jan 20, 2007, at 9:50 PM, Richie Hindle wrote:
                  Hi Sean,
                  >
                  >Thanks Richie -- but actually, what I had in mind was slightly
                  >different. I want for my CONTENT pages to only contain the content.
                  >So to modify your example:
                  >>
                  >LAYOUT = """<html><head> <title id='title'>The Title</title></head>
                  ><body><div id='info'>The page information goes here.</div>
                  ><p id='footer>Copy right Me 2007.</p></body></html>"""
                  >>
                  >INFO = """<div id='info'><p>He re is the info, which would in the real
                  >world
                  >be read from a file.</p></div>"""
                  >>
                  >Can I do this just as easily?
                  >
                  Yes, of course, just the same way:
                  >
                  from PyMeld import Meld
                  >
                  LAYOUT = """<html><head> <title id='title'>The Title</title></head>
                  <body><div id='info'>The page information goes here.</div>
                  <p id='footer>Copy right Me 2007.</p></body></html>"""
                  >
                  INFO = """<div id='info'><p>He re is the info, which would in the real
                  world be read from a file.</p></div>"""
                  >
                  page = Meld(LAYOUT)
                  info = Meld(INFO)
                  page.info = info.info._cont ent
                  print page
                  >
                  There's nothing that says a Meld has to be a complete HTML document.
                  >
                  >One other unrelated question... Let's say I have a table with a
                  >template row with id="myRow". I want to use PyMeld to clone that row
                  >n number of times (depending on database results). So here's my
                  >stoopid question: Does that mean that my XHTML will contain n rows
                  >all with the same id="myRow" thereby making my XHTML invalid?
                  >
                  Yes, it does, but you can simply delete the 'id' attributes from
                  the rows,
                  with `del row.id`, before adding them back into the document.
                  >
                  --
                  Richie Hindle
                  richie@entrian. com

                    Comment

                    • Sean Schertell
                      #6
                      Re: PyMeld for html templates?

                      I'm trying to get PyMeld happening but I'm a bit stumped as to how to
                      make it work with mod_python.

                      The pymeld docs show examples only for the Python command line
                      interpreter and show using the print statement to output stuff. But
                      using mod_python.apac he, I think you need to use req.write(somet hing)
                      format. And of course, this fails when you feed it output from Meld.

                      Any tips?

                      Sean



                      On Jan 20, 2007, at 6:18 AM, Richie Hindle wrote:
                      [Sean]
                      >I wonder if anyone has any thoughts on PyMeld as a template
                      >system for churning out general websites?
                      >
                      I'm doing that (but then I would be wouldn't I? 8-)
                      http://www.mandant.net is an example - the content of each page comes
                      from a file containing just the content, the layout and sidebar are
                      defined in a template HTML file, and the navigation is built by a
                      Python script. All that is pulled together using PyMeld into a set of
                      HTML files and deployed to the web server (there's no need to it on
                      the
                      fly for that site, but you certainly could).
                      >
                      >I want for a URI request to mysite.com/info
                      >to pull in a layout.html template which will in turn be populated by
                      >the info.html template. [...] how about PyMeld, any ideas on how
                      >to do it or whether it will even work as I've described?
                      >
                      You'd do something like this:
                      >
                      from PyMeld import Meld
                      >
                      LAYOUT = """<html><head> <title id='title'>The Title</title></head>
                      <body><div id='info'>The page information goes here.</div>
                      <p id='footer>Copy right Me 2007.</p></body></html>"""
                      >
                      INFO = """<html><head> <title id='title'>The real title</title></head>
                      <body id='info'><p>He re is the info, which would in the real world
                      be read from a file.</p></body></html>"""
                      >
                      page = Meld(LAYOUT)
                      info = Meld(INFO)
                      page.title = info.title._con tent
                      page.info = info.info._cont ent
                      print page
                      >
                      Is that the sort of thing you had in mind?
                      >
                      --
                      Richie Hindle
                      richie@entrian. com
                      >
                      --
                      http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

                        Comment

                        • Richie Hindle
                          #7
                          Re: PyMeld for html templates?

                          [Sean]
                          The pymeld docs show examples only for the Python command line
                          interpreter and show using the print statement to output stuff. But
                          using mod_python.apac he, I think you need to use req.write(somet hing)
                          format. And of course, this fails when you feed it output from Meld.
                          req.write(str(m eld)) ?

                          --
                          Richie Hindle
                          richie@entrian. com

                            Comment

                            Previous template Next
                            Working...