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  • jim-on-linux

    #16
    Re: Access to variable from external imported module

    On Friday 24 November 2006 13:41, John Machin
    wrote:
    jim-on-linux wrote:
    On Friday 24 November 2006 03:30, John Machin

    wrote:
    jim-on-linux wrote:
    GinTon,

    I think this is what you want.


    class Kdoi:
    >
    Is that a typo?
    No, it's a style. life seems to be
    easier to me if one is consistent, all my
    classes begin with K.
    >
    and end with "i"?
    >
    def __init__(self) :
    self.Fdo()
    >
    What is all this K and F stuff?
    It's my style. life seems to be easier to
    me if one is consistent all my function begin
    with F.
    >
    You left out a word; the correct way of
    phrasing that is: "All my function _are_ begin
    with F" :-)
    No, for Non-Hungrian programmers it's "all-ah me"
    Functions gona begin witha F, not Func. anda
    "all-ah-me" classes gona begin witha K, not Klas.
    Anda only me gona Know the Fdiff cause me codea is
    not opena. Anda I finda that it savea me time
    causea I doa thisa way fora a longa time.

    Whena I gonna hava to changea maybe I willa.
    >
    This appears to be a variation on "Hungarian
    notation"; google that for opinions pro & con.
    >
    In a certain vernacular, it would be called "an
    effed concept" :-)
    >
    I started doing things like this when the
    only way to debug was to read each line of
    code and try to figgure out if it was the
    problem.
    >
    When was that?
    That was when bill gates just left Harvard,
    basic was brand new, and 4k of memory was
    installed free when you bought a computer,
    (TRS80), my first,. Assemble was the alternative
    to Basic and you had to backup on tape because
    floppies didn't exist. And, most people on this
    site wern't even a gleem in their fathers eye.
    Even years ago, there were
    slightly better ways. For example, my first
    boss' boss was an enthusiastic coder and
    debugger and also a workaholic. Colleagues who
    lived along the same railway line as he and
    were foolish enough not to hide behind a
    newspaper could have their morning or evening
    reverie disturbed by a cry of "Glad you're
    here! I'll hold the listing, you hold the
    dump!". I get the impression that debugging
    techniques have moved along a little bit since
    then. :-)
    >
    They are my personal sign posts.
    def Fdo(self):


    searchterm = 'help'
    print searchterm #local

    self.searchterm = searchterm
    print self.searchterm #used inside
    the class

    Kdo.searchterm = searchterm #<<<<
    print Kdo.searchterm #used outside
    the class Kdomore()



    class Kdomore(Kdo):
    def __init__(self) :
    self.Fdomore()

    def Fdomore(self):
    searchterm = Kdo.searchterm #
    <<<< print searchterm
    >
    It's not apparent what the print statements
    are for -- are they part of an attempt to
    debug your code?
    print shows the results wherever a print
    statement turns up the results = 'help' .
    I didn't run the code, and it has it has a
    coding error
    >
    I noticed.
    >
    but if removed, the results should be;

    searchterm = 'help'
    self.searchterm = 'help'
    Kdo.searchterm = 'help'
    Correct but when writing one must be clear.

    Would it be better for me to write, your question
    above was Is that a typo?

    Or is it better if I were to write, your
    question above, "Is that a typo?",
    is a legimate question, but not clear.

    So, to be clear one might write is "Kdoi"
    correct?.

    A clear response would be, it is not "Kdoi", it is
    "Kdo".

    But that's not correct either, it is Kdo.

    If one runs the code I don't expect the user to
    look for "help", I think we will see help and
    will THINK that the results are correct.

    THINK is also incorrect, it should be written.
    think, or should it?

    No, the result would be
    help
    help
    help
    >
    Plug in a text-to-speech module and a phone
    dialer and you're done ;-)
    >
    Sound silly but many people have trouble
    with getting a variable from here to there in
    their code. This shows that it can be done
    What gives you the idea that this is what
    the OP wants or needs?
    If I remember right, he refrased his first
    question and asked a second one.
    Sometimes people don't take the time to write
    correctly, the questions that are really in
    their mind. So I guessed. If Im wrong, he
    will ignore it. If I'm right, he will use
    it.
    >
    With luck. Kindly consider another possibility:
    that you are wrong (or just marching to the
    beat of your own tambourine) and he (or she) is
    a newbie & will use it :-)
    >
    "Because he being of course judge of that tendency
    will make his opinions the rule of judgment, and
    approve or condemn the sentiments of others only
    as they shall square with or differ from his own…"
    Thomas Jefferson



    I enjoied this, but time is money,

    jim-on-linux
    http://www.inqvista.com








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    • Steven D'Aprano

      #17
      Re: Access to variable from external imported module

      On Fri, 24 Nov 2006 16:56:58 -0500, jim-on-linux wrote:
      Correct but when writing one must be clear.
      [jaw drops]

      Given the number of typos your posts include, the mock accent, the
      nonsensical sentences, the annoying hard-to-read coding conventions, and
      the sheer number of grammatical errors in your sentences, do you have any
      idea of the irony of that statement?

      No, I imagine you don't.

      Oh, and don't flatter yourself that you're the Old Man of Programming,
      compared to all the young whipper snappers on this list who, quote,
      "wern't even a gleem in their fathers eye". Many of us have been around
      quite a while, some of us even remember that there was a computer market
      before Bill Gates went dumpster-diving for source-code for a BASIC
      interpreter, and even if we weren't, there is nothing to be proud of using
      1970s programming style in 2000s programming languages.


      --
      Steven.

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      • jim-on-linux

        #18
        Re: Access to variable from external imported module


        The TRS-80 I bought came with both Basic and
        Assembly Language teaching guides, and that was
        it. To make the machine work one had to program.
        I didn't mean to imply that Bill Gates developed
        it. It's well known that MS borrowed stuff when
        they needed to from where ever the could get it.
        That's business.

        I'm not an MS fan but Bill Gates was the one who
        gave away a very cheep, borrowed but improved,
        copy of DOS to computer sellers. These copies
        could also be copied to floppies (8 inch). So,
        DOS 3.3 was used by computer sellers, to install
        DOS on the buyers machine, (intel 286) free.

        On the other hand, IBM sold the same package for
        $50.00.

        I got the free copy of MS 3.3 with my 286.

        After that, Windows 3.0 cost me $25.00,
        Windows 3.1 cost me $30.00,
        DOS upgrade from3.3 to 6.22 cost
        me $55.00.
        Since then I purchased Win 95, $100.00
        and Win 98. $125.00.
        And, all for testing software that I produced for
        people that use that stuff.

        Bill Gates probably can't program any software to
        write "Hello World" on any screen, but I'll bet
        he knows how to fill out a deposit ticket.

        I think Bill Gates recognize early that the money
        is in the marketing of the product, not the
        programming of it. How else can you explain the
        success of Windows, like it or not?

        jim-on-linux
        http://www.inqvista.com




        On Friday 24 November 2006 17:18, Dennis Lee
        Bieber wrote:
        On Fri, 24 Nov 2006 16:56:58 -0500,
        jim-on-linux <inq1ltd@verizo n.net>
        >
        declaimed the following in comp.lang.pytho n:
        That was when bill gates just left Harvard,
        basic was brand new, and 4k of memory was
        >
        Pardon? I'd learned BASIC back around 1972, in
        the 9th grade, using an ASR-33 with dial-up to
        some company's Honeywell-Bull system.
        >
        BASIC is one of the ancients in languages,
        predating Pascal and C.
        >
        Just because Gates managed to scrabble
        together a BASIC interpreter for the MITS
        Altair, and then had it picked up by other
        makers of 8080/Z-80 based "microcomputers "
        doesn't make it "brand new". (Personally, I
        suspect he hasn't done any programming ever
        since that day, and is probably still trying to
        find some way to sue Kemeny&Kurtz (sp?s) over
        their own creation)
        --
        Wulfraed Dennis Lee Bieber KD6MOG
        wlfraed@ix.netc om.com wulfraed@bestia ria.com

        (Bestiaria Support
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