Can not download plugins for jEdit (help!!)

**Lich_Ray** · Nov 9 '06, 09:35 AM

Re: Can not download plugins for jEdit (help!!)

jEdit
Vim, it can handle all the things.

http://www.vim.org/

**Ant** · Nov 9 '06, 12:45 PM

Re: Can not download plugins for jEdit (help!!)

On Nov 9, 6:52 am, "BillJoseph son" <billjoseph...@ hotmail.comwrot e:
....

If anyone knows why i can't connect, in info about it would be
a big help.

Sounds like the default mirror is down. Go to Utilities -Global
Options -Plugin Manager and click on "Update mirror list". Choose a
new mirror and try again. If that still fails, it may be that you need
to set up your proxy server properly.

**Ant** · Nov 9 '06, 12:55 PM

Re: Can not download plugins for jEdit (help!!)

Vim, it can handle all the things.http://www.vim.org/

I'm not convinced of that quite yet. jEdit's syntax highlighting seems
more robust (see SocketServer.py in the standard library for an example
- vim gets the highlighting of the first doc-comment wrong). I've also
not found anything like jEdit's Console plugin for vim. It's
interactive. You can run the current buffer in the console window. The
console interacts with an error reporting pane which allows you to
click on the error and it will take you to the appropriate line in the
code that the stack trace indicates.

The only thing I have found for vim (and it is specific to running
Python code) is the runscript.vim plugin, which merely allows you to
view the stdout from the script in a different buffer. It doesn't allow
you to interact (say you are writing a console based interactive
application for example) nor does it have all of those other features
I mentioned.

I'm very interested in other people's vim setup for Python coding
however, as I do use vim more than Python these days, mainly because I
have to use it a great deal on headless servers (jEdit would be no good
here of course) and I got fed up with adding artefacts such as
extraneous i's, o's and :w's into my code when working with jEdit ;-)
And it starts faster of course.

**Neil Cerutti** · Nov 9 '06, 01:55 PM

Re: Can not download plugins for jEdit (help!!)

On 2006-11-09, Ant <antroy@gmail.c omwrote:

>Vim, it can handle all the things.http://www.vim.org/

>
I'm not convinced of that quite yet. jEdit's syntax
highlighting seems more robust (see SocketServer.py in the
standard library for an example - vim gets the highlighting of
the first doc-comment wrong).

Code inside strings, e.g., doctests, breaks the synchronization
code. I fixed this for myself by adopting the convention in my
code that all closing """ are at the end of a line, while opening
""" never are. Then I changed the synchronize declarations in
/syntax/python.vim to the following:

syn sync match pythonSync grouphere NONE '"""$'
syn sync maxlines=300

The above is no good for random Python code, though.

But in random Python code you can simply increase the number of
lines inspected as high as your machine can handle, as documented
in python.vim.

I've also not found anything like jEdit's Console plugin for
vim. It's interactive. You can run the current buffer in the
console window. The console interacts with an error reporting
pane which allows you to click on the error and it will take
you to the appropriate line in the code that the stack trace
indicates.

I haven't got that working in Vim, because I haven't been
irritated enough by its lack to try. Python's extremely verbose
error reports make designing errorformat a little tricky, but it
can be done, and the day may come soon.

The reason I haven't adapted quickfix mode to Python is that Vim
would hide most of the Traceback. I'd constantly be executing the
command to show the entire error message, so I've chosen to
eschew quickfix mode for Python code.

If there's some quickfix mode settings that solve these problems
I'd be happy to purloin it.

I'm very interested in other people's vim setup for Python coding
however, as I do use vim more than Python these days, mainly because I
have to use it a great deal on headless servers (jEdit would be no good
here of course) and I got fed up with adding artefacts such as
extraneous i's, o's and :w's into my code when working with jEdit ;-)
And it starts faster of course.

The default Python plugin provides the [[, ]] and [m, ]m commands
for jumping to the next function or method respectively. They are
a nice help once you're aware of them. There's a more powerful
plugin available on the internet, but it the code-jumps were the
main commands I wanted.

pytags should be in your Tools directory. I haven't found it
terribly useful, but in theory it's invaluable (my project is
piddly in size at the moment).

If you set shiftwidth to your preferred Python indent, then
indenting and unindenting code blocks is as easy as the < and >
commands.

--
Neil Cerutti

**Ant** · Nov 9 '06, 02:45 PM

Re: Can not download plugins for jEdit (help!!)

On Nov 9, 2:11 pm, Neil Cerutti <horp...@yahoo. comwrote:
....

""" never are. Then I changed the synchronize declarations in
/syntax/python.vim to the following:
>
syn sync match pythonSync grouphere NONE '"""$'
syn sync maxlines=300
>
The above is no good for random Python code, though.
>
But in random Python code you can simply increase the number of
lines inspected as high as your machine can handle, as documented
in python.vim.

I commented out the maxlines line, and uncommented the syn sync
minlines=2000 line, and that seems to have worked.

The reason I haven't adapted quickfix mode to Python is that Vim
would hide most of the Traceback. I'd constantly be executing the
command to show the entire error message, so I've chosen to
eschew quickfix mode for Python code.

Sounds interesting - I may take a look at it.

... default Python plugin provides the [[, ]] and [m, ]m commands
for jumping to the next function or method respectively. They are
a nice help once you're aware of them. There's a more powerful
plugin available on the internet, but it the code-jumps were the
main commands I wanted.

They sound good. I've been using the taglist.vim plugin for code
browsing which is pretty good for that sort of thing.

pytags should be in your Tools directory. I haven't found it
terribly useful, but in theory it's invaluable (my project is
piddly in size at the moment).

I'll take a look. A code navigation tool I presume?

If you set shiftwidth to your preferred Python indent, then
indenting and unindenting code blocks is as easy as the < and >
commands

Yes - I have that set up. Thanks for the tips :-)

**BillJosephson** · Nov 9 '06, 03:05 PM

Re: Can not download plugins for jEdit (help!!)

Ant wrote:

Vim, it can handle all the things.http://www.vim.org/

>
I'm not convinced of that quite yet. jEdit's syntax highlighting seems
more robust (see SocketServer.py in the standard library for an example
- vim gets the highlighting of the first doc-comment wrong). I've also
not found anything like jEdit's Console plugin for vim. It's
interactive. You can run the current buffer in the console window. The
console interacts with an error reporting pane which allows you to
click on the error and it will take you to the appropriate line in the
code that the stack trace indicates.
>
The only thing I have found for vim (and it is specific to running
Python code) is the runscript.vim plugin, which merely allows you to
view the stdout from the script in a different buffer. It doesn't allow
you to interact (say you are writing a console based interactive
application for example) nor does it have all of those other features
I mentioned.
>
I'm very interested in other people's vim setup for Python coding
however, as I do use vim more than Python these days, mainly because I
have to use it a great deal on headless servers (jEdit would be no good
here of course) and I got fed up with adding artefacts such as
extraneous i's, o's and :w's into my code when working with jEdit ;-)
And it starts faster of course.

Ant:

Great. Can you help me get it?

Thanks.

**John Salerno** · Nov 9 '06, 03:05 PM

Re: Can not download plugins for jEdit (help!!)

Ant wrote:

I do use vim more than Python these days

What does that mean? Are you referring to all the setup involved with vim?

**BillJosephson** · Nov 9 '06, 03:15 PM

Re: Can not download plugins for jEdit (help!!)

Ant wrote:

On Nov 9, 6:52 am, "BillJoseph son" <billjoseph...@ hotmail.comwrot e:
...

If anyone knows why i can't connect, in info about it would be
a big help.

>
Sounds like the default mirror is down. Go to Utilities -Global
Options -Plugin Manager and click on "Update mirror list". Choose a
new mirror and try again. If that still fails, it may be that you need
to set up your proxy server properly.

Woo hoo! It worked! Now of course it was a dumb question to begin
with.

May I ask another quetion? I don't want to mess with lots of plugins
at this point. What are the minimum plugins to get a typical looking
IDE with a code window and output window and that lets me set
breakpoints and step through code?

Thanks a lot Ant, I appreciate your help.

**Anders Arnholm** · Nov 9 '06, 04:05 PM

Re: Can not download plugins for jEdit (help!!)

Ant <antroy@gmail.c omskriver:

>Vim, it can handle all the things.http://www.vim.org/

>
I'm not convinced of that quite yet. jEdit's syntax highlighting seems
more robust (see SocketServer.py in the standard library for an example
- vim gets the highlighting of the first doc-comment wrong). I've also

I can't see that problem at all. Vim 7.0 standard win32 build and
6.4 on OpenBSD.

My vimrc hold and old rule that I'm not sure is needed or how it works
against the new standard python module:

:au BufEnter *.py :set smarttab smartindent \
cinwords="if,el if,else,for,whi le,def,try,rxce pt,finally,clas s"

I have not yet seen any problenm from it but maybe it's time to remote
it soon.

/ Balp
--
http://anders.arnholm.nu/ Keep on Balping

**Ant** · Nov 9 '06, 04:35 PM

Re: Can not download plugins for jEdit (help!!)

May I ask another quetion? I don't want to mess with lots of plugins

at this point. What are the minimum plugins to get a typical looking
IDE with a code window and output window and that lets me set
breakpoints and step through code?

The Console plugin is a must (I think it depends on the ErrorList
plugin which is also very useful as I noted above). JPyDebug is an
interactive debugger - I have never used it mind, I usually rely on
print statements to debug stuff.

**Ant** · Nov 9 '06, 04:35 PM

Re: Can not download plugins for jEdit (help!!)

On Nov 9, 3:27 pm, John Salerno <johnj...@NOSPA Mgmail.comwrote :

Ant wrote:

I do use vim more than Python these daysWhat does that mean? Are you referring to all the setup involved with vim?

Whoops! I mean I use vim more than jEdit these days!

**Neil Cerutti** · Nov 9 '06, 06:25 PM

Re: Can not download plugins for jEdit (help!!)

On 2006-11-09, Anders Arnholm <Anders+news@Ar nholm.nuwrote:

Ant <antroy@gmail.c omskriver:

>>Vim, it can handle all the things.http://www.vim.org/

>>
>I'm not convinced of that quite yet. jEdit's syntax highlighting seems
>more robust (see SocketServer.py in the standard library for an example
>- vim gets the highlighting of the first doc-comment wrong). I've also

>
I can't see that problem at all. Vim 7.0 standard win32 build and
6.4 on OpenBSD.
>
My vimrc hold and old rule that I'm not sure is needed or how it works
against the new standard python module:
>
>:au BufEnter *.py :set smarttab smartindent \
cinwords="if,el if,else,for,whi le,def,try,rxce pt,finally,clas s"

You shouldn't need that as long as the default plugin for Python
loads correctly. (except is spelled wrong by the way.)

--
Neil Cerutti
Women's Luncheon: Each member bring a sandwich. Polly Phillips will
give the medication. --Church Bulletin Blooper

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