logo design

**Frank Buss** · Oct 29 '06, 09:55 AM

Re: logo design

Xah Lee wrote:

I have brought this topic here here before... that i think LISP really
need to have a logo. I'm aware of ´made with alien technology lisp¡
web-badge, but that is a lisp-peddling badge, not a lisp logo proper.

There are already many different logos, if you don't like the "made with
secret alien technology" text:

http://www.lisperati.com/logo.html

404 Not Found

http://www.normal-null.de/lisp_logo.html

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**Paul McGuire** · Oct 29 '06, 06:45 PM

Re: logo design - BZZZT! OT!

"Xah Lee" <xah@xahlee.org wrote in message
news:1162103065 .460796.303660@ f16g2000cwb.goo glegroups.com.. .
....
Again: the primary purpose of this message, is to beseach that the
power-that-be of lispers, seriously think about getting themselves a
official logo. Thanks.

Does the "power-that-be of lispers" spend much time on c.l.py? Even though
Python is mentioned in passing in this post, it really doesn't need to be
cross-posted here.

-- Paul

**John Bokma** · Oct 29 '06, 07:05 PM

Re: logo design - BZZZT! OT!

"Paul McGuire" <ptmcg@austin.r r._bogus_.comwr ote:

Does the "power-that-be of lispers" spend much time on c.l.py? Even
though Python is mentioned in passing in this post, it really doesn't
need to be cross-posted here.

Xah Lee is a well-known spammer, almost all his messages contain at least
one link to his site in the body.

Somehow this time he limited his post to 3 groups instead of the usual 5.
Maybe talking with the right people does work. It did with Dreamhost. And
I am sure his current hosting provider is listening ;-)

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**Gerard Flanagan** · Oct 29 '06, 07:25 PM

Re: logo design - BZZZT! OT!

John Bokma wrote:

Xah Lee is a well-known spammer, almost all his messages contain at least
one link to his site in the body.
>
Somehow this time he limited his post to 3 groups instead of the usual 5.
Maybe talking with the right people does work. It did with Dreamhost. And
I am sure his current hosting provider is listening ;-)
>

Charybdis...

**Xah Lee** · Nov 1 '06, 10:15 AM

Re: logo design

No personal offense intended, but human animal's history is what? 3000
years at least in recorded history? And, all you can think of is what,
the view points of a fraction of your personal life span?

Have you looked into, the history of fashions, icons, their roles and
social significance, before you embarked and embraced on your above-it
attitude about why should or should not your pet language lisp have a
logo?

As per more detailed reasons on the meaning of logos, it's social
significance, its role in modern society, the defining characteristics
of logo design, and why LISP needs a logo, i'll post a reply to this
thread wthin a month.

Xah
xah@xahlee.org
âˆ‘ http://xahlee.org/

mark.hoemmen@gm ail.com wrote:

On Oct 28, 10:24 pm, "Xah Lee" <x...@xahlee.or gwrote:

I have brought this topic here here before... that i think LISP really
need to have a logo.

>
No offense intended, but were you around in 1959 or so? The way
that time passes in the computer science world, having a logo for
Lisp is like having a logo for the abacus ;) Besides, who are _we_
to go back and impose our modern ideas of what looks "slick" and
pretty on the great thinkers of an earlier age? Should we make a
logo for the Pythagorean Theorem or for Newton's Three Laws?
>

Python, did not really have a logo. I made a plaint more than once in
different periods of times to comp.lang.pytho n. Them tech geeking
morons and assholes, as expected, made irrelevant and incoherent cries.

>
I personally have a lot of respect for Python hackers and I think
you should too. We Lispers should show our greatness by not
stooping to such insults ;)

mfh

**alex23** · Nov 2 '06, 01:45 AM

Re: logo design

Xah Lee wrote:

No personal offense intended, but human animal's history is what? 3000
years at least in recorded history? And, all you can think of is what,
the view points of a fraction of your personal life span?

Thank god evolution spat you out to lead us all to the light, huh?

No personal offense intended, but you're a boring, elitist prick.

- alex23

**Steve Holden** · Nov 2 '06, 02:05 AM

Re: logo design

alex23 wrote:

Xah Lee wrote:
>

>>No personal offense intended, but human animal's history is what? 3000
>>years at least in recorded history? And, all you can think of is what,
>>the view points of a fraction of your personal life span?

>
>
Thank god evolution spat you out to lead us all to the light, huh?
>
No personal offense intended, but you're a boring, elitist prick.
>
- alex23
>

This conversation has clearly descended to the level where it needs to
be taken to email. Nobody wants to read this.

regards
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**Ken Tilton** · Nov 2 '06, 03:35 AM

Re: logo design

alex23 wrote:

Xah Lee wrote:
>

>>No personal offense intended, but human animal's history is what? 3000
>>years at least in recorded history? And, all you can think of is what,
>>the view points of a fraction of your personal life span?

>
>
Thank god evolution spat you out to lead us all to the light, huh?
>
No personal offense intended, but you're a boring, elitist prick.

Actually, no, Xah is pretty cool, give him a chance.

hth, kt

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**Geoffrey Summerhayes** · Nov 2 '06, 04:35 AM

Re: logo design

Ken Tilton wrote:

alex23 wrote:

Xah Lee wrote:

>No personal offense intended, but human animal's history is what? 3000
>years at least in recorded history? And, all you can think of is what,
>the view points of a fraction of your personal life span?

Thank god evolution spat you out to lead us all to the light, huh?

No personal offense intended, but you're a boring, elitist prick.

>
Actually, no, Xah is pretty cool, give him a chance.

Yeah, this still seems kind of silly though. Implementations ,
companies and user groups have logos, not languages.

Picture this: Hey, I'm switching to COBOL because its new
logo looks great on t-shirts and mugs.

----
Geoff

**Lars Rune Nøstdal** · Nov 2 '06, 05:05 AM

Re: logo design

On Wed, 01 Nov 2006 20:48:12 -0800, Geoffrey Summerhayes wrote:

Picture this: Hey, I'm switching to COBOL because its new
logo looks great on t-shirts and mugs.

Maybe the extra funding would improve "COBOL" and its libraries faster by
letting a developer work more often on it.

I'm not totally serious; but maybe some way of donating money to further
improvement of SBCL/Slime/something-cool-and-universally-needed-here would
be OK or something.

...I need a new t-shirt anyways; the Ubuntu t-shirt has gone missing.. :(

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**Lars Rune Nøstdal** · Nov 2 '06, 05:45 AM

Re: logo design

On Thu, 02 Nov 2006 06:08:00 +0100, Lars Rune NÃ¸stdal wrote:

On Wed, 01 Nov 2006 20:48:12 -0800, Geoffrey Summerhayes wrote:
>

>Picture this: Hey, I'm switching to COBOL because its new
>logo looks great on t-shirts and mugs.

>
Maybe the extra funding would improve "COBOL" and its libraries faster by
letting a developer work more often on it.

(and you'd switch to "COBOL" later down the road because of this)

>
I'm not totally serious; but maybe some way of donating money to further
improvement of SBCL/Slime/something-cool-and-universally-needed-here would
be OK or something.
>
..I need a new t-shirt anyways; the Ubuntu t-shirt has gone missing.. :(

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http://lars.nostdal.org/

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