How to write UNIX daemons in Python?

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  • gnewsg@gmail.com

    #1

    How to write UNIX daemons in Python?

    Hi all. I've just finished to write an FTP daemon in Python.
    To do things well I'd like to write an 'insteller' to permit the end
    user to 'deeply' install the package inside the system. In details I
    would like that installer is able to do the following operations:

    - copy ftpd.py in /usr/bin.
    - depending on the system, it should be able to determinate where
    service startup directory is located (for example /etc/init.d) and
    copy a script able to automatically run /usr/ftpd.py at startup.
    - optionally install a manual callable with "man ftpd".
    - many other operations about the installation of a package.

    What should I use to do something like that? Do I have to use
    distutils? Do I have to use third party packages? Do I have to write a
    "setup.py" and solve the problem manually?
    This last solution is problematic becouse, for (dumb) example, Debian
    wants executable/programs to be located in /usr/bin while Fedora uses
    another path (for example /usr/sbin).

    Another question: what about .deb, .rpm, [...] packages?
    Does it possible to use them with Python programs?
    Resolving third party dependancies by using them could be a nice thing.


    Best regards

  • Diez B. Roggisch

    #2
    Re: How to write UNIX daemons in Python?

    gnewsg@gmail.co m wrote:
    Hi all. I've just finished to write an FTP daemon in Python.
    To do things well I'd like to write an 'insteller' to permit the end
    user to 'deeply' install the package inside the system. In details I
    would like that installer is able to do the following operations:
    >
    - copy ftpd.py in /usr/bin.
    - depending on the system, it should be able to determinate where
    service startup directory is located (for example /etc/init.d) and
    copy a script able to automatically run /usr/ftpd.py at startup.
    - optionally install a manual callable with "man ftpd".
    - many other operations about the installation of a package.
    >
    What should I use to do something like that? Do I have to use
    distutils? Do I have to use third party packages? Do I have to write a
    "setup.py" and solve the problem manually?
    This last solution is problematic becouse, for (dumb) example, Debian
    wants executable/programs to be located in /usr/bin while Fedora uses
    another path (for example /usr/sbin).
    >
    Another question: what about .deb, .rpm, [...] packages?
    Does it possible to use them with Python programs?
    Resolving third party dependancies by using them could be a nice thing.
    You can use setuptools to generate scripts in the various bin-directories.
    And of course you could try and make setup.py detect the system & adapt the
    necessary paths accordingly.

    But the best thing to do would certainly be a package - however, I'm not
    aware that there is any support for that. But a look here might be a start:



    Diez

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    • Martin v. Löwis

      #3
      Re: How to write UNIX daemons in Python?

      gnewsg@gmail.co m schrieb:
      What should I use to do something like that? Do I have to use
      distutils? Do I have to use third party packages? Do I have to write a
      "setup.py" and solve the problem manually?
      This last solution is problematic becouse, for (dumb) example, Debian
      wants executable/programs to be located in /usr/bin while Fedora uses
      another path (for example /usr/sbin).
      >
      Another question: what about .deb, .rpm, [...] packages?
      Does it possible to use them with Python programs?
      Resolving third party dependancies by using them could be a nice thing.
      I would create packages, and therefore restrict attention to the
      systems that are to be supported.

      For RPM, there is a distutils bdist_rpm command which can help in
      generating the RPM. OTOH, it might be actually easier to write a .spec
      file and build the RPM "manually".

      For .deb, there is also a bdist_deb distutils command (although not
      part of the standard Python distribution), again, it is likely easier
      to use the standard Debian packaging tool chain (i.e. with an
      explicit debian/ subdirectory, initially populated with dh_make).

      In either case, it is probably a good idea to look at source packages
      to get started quickly.

      FWIW, Debian does *not* put daemon programs in /usr/bin. Debian
      follows the FHS, which specifies that system binaries go into
      /usr/sbin. /usr/bin is limited to user programs.

      Regards,
      Martin

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