X windows and Python?

[Paul Rubin]

I'd like to program my Python script to put a string into the X
windows cut buffer. Can anyone suggest the simplest way to do that?
Maybe I can do it by putting up a Tkinter text widget, sticking the
string into it, and selecting it (I'm checking the docs) but uggh.
I'd prefer not to have to put anything on the screen. I just want to
put the string into the cut buffer so I can paste it into another
program.

Thanks for any suggestions.

[Paul Rubin]

Re: X windows and Python?

Paul Rubin <http://phr.cx@NOSPAM.i nvalidwrites:

I'd like to program my Python script to put a string into the X
windows cut buffer.

Hmm, looks like I can use w.clipboard_app end with an arbitrary tkinter
widget, maybe without having to actually display anything. I'll try
that.

[David Boddie]

Re: X windows and Python?

Paul Rubin wrote: I'd like to program my Python script to put a
string into the X windows cut buffer. Can anyone suggest the
simplest way to do that? Maybe I can do it by putting up a Tkinter
text widget, sticking the string into it, and selecting it (I'm
checking the docs) but uggh. I'd prefer not to have to put anything
on the screen. I just want to put the string into the cut buffer so
I can paste it into another program. Maybe this does what you need:
http://python-xlib.sourceforge.net/ David

[Paul Rubin]

Re: X windows and Python?

Paul Rubin <http://phr.cx@NOSPAM.i nvalidwrites:

Hmm, looks like I can use w.clipboard_app end with an arbitrary tkinter
widget, maybe without having to actually display anything. I'll try
that.

Nope, that's some kind of internal Tk clipboard. Any other ideas, how
to communicate with the X window manager?

[David Boddie]

Re: X windows and Python?

The usual follow-up to "fix" Google's "formatting ". Maybe this does
what you need:

http://python-xlib.sourceforge.net/

[skip@pobox.com]

Re: X windows and Python?

>>>>"Paul" == Paul Rubin <"http://phr.cx"@NOSPAM. invalidwrites:

PaulI'd like to program my Python script to put a string into the X
Paulwindows cut buffer. Can anyone suggest the simplest way to do
Paulthat?

Maybe there's some useful functionality exposed through the Python Xlib
module:

http://python-xlib.sourceforge.net/

Skip

[Grant Edwards]

Re: X windows and Python?

On 2006-08-15, Paul Rubin <httpwrote:

I'd like to program my Python script to put a string into the
X windows cut buffer. Can anyone suggest the simplest way to
do that?

There isn't a simple way to do that.

The basic problem is that there's not really such a thing as
"_the_ X windows cut buffer". The selection mechanism under X
is rather complicated.

The way (well, _one_ way) it's supposed to work is you make an
Xlib call to claim ownership of "the selection". Then when
somebody wants to get the contents of the selection you get an
event to which you respond by sending the current contents of
the selection.

However, if your app exits before somebody requests the
contents of the selection, then you have to use one of the
fallback mechanisms. In addition to the "selection" , there are
a set of cut buffer buffers that you can put things into. The
first of those cut buffers is where apps _usually_ look if
there is no current selection owner.

In order to work properly, you have cover both bases:

1) You need to request ownership of the selection and then
respond to a selection notify event if you get one.

2) You need to write the selection contents into cut buffer 0.

I think it might be sufficient to do the following:

0) Open a connection to the server and create a window.

1) Write the selected string into cut buffer 0.

2) Call XSetSelectionOw ner to make yourself the owner of the
selction.

3) Call XSetSelectionOn wer to give up ownership of the
selection (or just close the connection to the server).

At that point, the selection won't have an owner, and most
applications will look in cut buffer 0. But if somebody tries
to get the selection contents between steps 2 and 3, then
things break unless you handle the request.

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[Grant Edwards]

Re: X windows and Python?

On 2006-08-15, Grant Edwards <grante@visi.co mwrote:

>I'd like to program my Python script to put a string into the
>X windows cut buffer. Can anyone suggest the simplest way to
>do that?

>
There isn't a simple way to do that.

I forgot to mention, there are actually three different
selections (plus the cut buffers).

Here's a nice explanation of just the selection part of the
mess:

http://www.msu.edu/~huntharo/xwin/docs/xwindows/selection.pdf

If you want something quick and dirty, you can just use
os.popen() to call xsel:

http://www.niksula.hut.fi/~vherva/xsel/

xsel doesn't do the "cut buffer" thing. It obtains ownership of
the selection, and then forks off a copy of itself to service
requests for the selection contents. I would probably have
just copied the selection to cut buffer 0 and exited, but this
way works fine.

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[Paul Rubin]

Re: X windows and Python?

"David Boddie" <david@boddie.o rg.ukwrites:

The usual follow-up to "fix" Google's "formatting ". Maybe this does
what you need:
>
http://python-xlib.sourceforge.net/

Thanks, wow, a complete xlib implementation in Python, so I'd get to
do low-level X programming and implement the stuff Grant Edwards
described. I hope I can avoid that. What I'm doing right now is
writing the stuff out to a file and loading it into OpenOffice, then
selecting the contents there and copying it the cut buffer. Blecccch.

[Paul Rubin]

Re: X windows and Python?

Grant Edwards <grante@visi.co mwrites:

The way (well, _one_ way) it's supposed to work is you make an
Xlib call to claim ownership of "the selection". ...

Thanks, this explanation was very interesting. It would be great if
tkinter had some calls to do this stuff, which I guess means the
underlying Tk needs them (I dunno if it has them). Anyway, for what I
was doing, it wasn't that urgent, and I'm using an awful workaround.