Active Python versions

[Tom Del Rosso]

Why is the Windows msi install file for ActivePython-2.4.3.12 only 15MB
whereas the older msi file for ActivePython-2.4.2.10 was 19MB?

BTW, is that the prefered Python environment?


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[Trent Mick]

Re: Active Python versions

Tom Del Rosso wrote:[color=blue]
> Why is the Windows msi install file for ActivePython-2.4.3.12 only 15MB
> whereas the older msi file for ActivePython-2.4.2.10 was 19MB?
>
> BTW, is that the prefered Python environment?[/color]

Are you sure you are comparing the right packages? By my count:

ActivePython-2.4.2.10-win32-x86.msi 19,053 KB
ActivePython-2.4.3.12-win32-x86.msi 19,237 KB

Note that the Windows *64-bit* builds are smaller (around 15MB) because
they do not include PyWin32.

Trent

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[Tom Del Rosso]

Re: Active Python versions

Trent Mick <trentm@actives tate.com> typed
in news://mailman.7218.1150748874.27775...ist@python.org,
[color=blue]
> Tom Del Rosso wrote:[color=green]
>> Why is the Windows msi install file for ActivePython-2.4.3.12 only
>> 15MB whereas the older msi file for ActivePython-2.4.2.10 was 19MB?
>>
>> BTW, is that the prefered Python environment?[/color]
>
> Are you sure you are comparing the right packages? By my count:
>
> ActivePython-2.4.2.10-win32-x86.msi 19,053 KB
> ActivePython-2.4.3.12-win32-x86.msi 19,237 KB
>
> Note that the Windows *64-bit* builds are smaller (around 15MB)
> because they do not include PyWin32.[/color]

Thanks. I didn't notice the file name was wrong until I tried to install
it.

Can I ask you about alternative environments? How do Active Python and IDLE
from python.org compare? I'm just starting out with it and I know they run
the same code but I don't want to have to change environments later.


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[Trent Mick]

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Tom Del Rosso wrote:[color=blue]
> Can I ask you about alternative environments? How do Active Python and IDLE
> from python.org compare?[/color]

Both ActivePython and the Python installers from python.org install
IDLE. They should not differ at all (AFAIK).

Trent

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[jmdeschamps@gmail.com]

Re: Active Python versions


Trent Mick wrote:[color=blue]
> Tom Del Rosso wrote:[color=green]
> > Can I ask you about alternative environments? How do Active Python and IDLE
> > from python.org compare?[/color]
>
> Both ActivePython and the Python installers from python.org install
> IDLE. They should not differ at all (AFAIK).
>
> Trent
>
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> Trent Mick
> trentm@activest ate.com[/color]

Maybe the OP is refering to PythonWin editor (as compared to IDLE)
which is in ActiveState's release but not in the Python.org release...
makes for a very different subject, and hopefully for very different
answer direction.

jean-marc

[Tom Del Rosso]

Re: Active Python versions

jmdeschamps@gma il.com <jmdeschamps@gm ail.com> typed
in news://1150769349.111390.280450@y41g...oglegroups.com,
[color=blue]
> Maybe the OP is refering to PythonWin editor (as compared to IDLE)
> which is in ActiveState's release but not in the Python.org release...
> makes for a very different subject, and hopefully for very different
> answer direction.[/color]

Yes. I just wanted to know which programming environment is prefered by
regular users, maybe even one that I haven't heard of yet.


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[jmdeschamps@gmail.com]

Re: Active Python versions


Tom Del Rosso wrote:[color=blue]
> jmdeschamps@gma il.com <jmdeschamps@gm ail.com> typed
> in news://1150769349.111390.280450@y41g...oglegroups.com,
>[color=green]
> > Maybe the OP is refering to PythonWin editor (as compared to IDLE)
> > which is in ActiveState's release but not in the Python.org release...
> > makes for a very different subject, and hopefully for very different
> > answer direction.[/color]
>
> Yes. I just wanted to know which programming environment is prefered by
> regular users, maybe even one that I haven't heard of yet.
>[/color]
.... try reading this very recent (still active) thread:

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.python/browse_frm/thread/9577320064fa33eb/7ad49f0d44ecbc47?hl=en#7ad49f0d44ecbc47

My two-grain of salt:
PythonWin is simple and nice BUT breaks if you do Tkinter Gui (and try
to run a program while the previous run isn't finished)
Python Scripter - light, nice, some nice features but missing code
folding, if you like that...
Pydev + Eclipse (Eclipse is Java based plugin type environment) lots of
stuff (to much for some) and heavy [t's Java after all ;-) ] But
nowadays with RAM, and processor speed - it's nice to do almost every
task in the same basic environment (plugins for almost anything)

BTW Kudos to all the people behind these apps (mark hammond of pywin
fame, kiriakos vlahos for python scripter , and fabio zadrozny for
pydev)

jean-marc

[Trent Mick]

Re: Active Python versions

Tom Del Rosso wrote:[color=blue]
> jmdeschamps@gma il.com <jmdeschamps@gm ail.com> typed
> in news://1150769349.111390.280450@y41g...oglegroups.com,
>[color=green]
>> Maybe the OP is refering to PythonWin editor (as compared to IDLE)
>> which is in ActiveState's release but not in the Python.org release...
>> makes for a very different subject, and hopefully for very different
>> answer direction.[/color]
>
> Yes. I just wanted to know which programming environment is prefered by
> regular users, maybe even one that I haven't heard of yet.[/color]

Ah, the PythonWin IDE/Editor is part of PyWin32 -- which is included as
a standard part of ActivePython. IDLE is also included in ActivePython,
BTW. ActivePython just doesn't setup a shortcut in the Start Menu for
it. You could add your own.

As jean-marc suggests, you might want to search the python-list archives
for peoples opinions on Python IDEs and editors. Also check out:

http://wiki.python.org/moin/IntegratedDevelopmentEnvironments

http://wiki.python.org/moin/PythonEditors

ActiveState has a Python IDE called Komodo
http://www.activestate.com/Products/Komodo/
which I work on (so I'm biased :).

Trent

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[Tom Del Rosso]

Re: Active Python versions

Thanks very much guys.


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