just one more question about the python challenge

[John Salerno]

Sorry to post here about this again, but the hint forums are dead, and
the hints that are already there are absolutely no help (mostly it's
just people saying they are stuck, then responding to themselves saying
the figured it out! not to mention that most of the hints require
getting past a certain point in the puzzle before they make sense, and
i'm just clueless).

Anyway, I'm on level 12 and I not only don't know what to do, but I just
don't care at this point to work with images anymore. I'd still like to
read a description of what to do, if one exists somewhere (can't find
one at all, though), but at this point I'd be happy with the next URL so
I can just move on. I've been stagnating for a few days and I need to
use Python again! :)

[Georg Brandl]

Re: just one more question about the python challenge

John Salerno wrote:[color=blue]
> Sorry to post here about this again, but the hint forums are dead, and
> the hints that are already there are absolutely no help (mostly it's
> just people saying they are stuck, then responding to themselves saying
> the figured it out! not to mention that most of the hints require
> getting past a certain point in the puzzle before they make sense, and
> i'm just clueless).
>
> Anyway, I'm on level 12 and I not only don't know what to do, but I just
> don't care at this point to work with images anymore. I'd still like to
> read a description of what to do, if one exists somewhere (can't find
> one at all, though), but at this point I'd be happy with the next URL so
> I can just move on. I've been stagnating for a few days and I need to
> use Python again! :)[/color]

Have you found the file? You'll have to distribute that file bytewise
in 5 "piles".

Georg

[John Salerno]

Re: just one more question about the python challenge

Georg Brandl wrote:
[color=blue]
> Have you found the file? You'll have to distribute that file bytewise
> in 5 "piles".[/color]

No, I haven't figured out anything for this puzzle. It seems I might
have to change the filename of the image to something else, but I don't
know what. But even after I find the image, I won't know what to do from
there. I don't know what it means to distribute a file bytewise, but if
I knew exactly which modules/functions to use, I'd be more than happy
reading up on them myself. I just hate not knowing where to go to begin
with (even though I know I probably won't know enough about images to
use the right module properly either, but I can try).

[Georg Brandl]

Re: just one more question about the python challenge

John Salerno wrote:[color=blue]
> Georg Brandl wrote:
>[color=green]
>> Have you found the file? You'll have to distribute that file bytewise
>> in 5 "piles".[/color]
>
> No, I haven't figured out anything for this puzzle. It seems I might
> have to change the filename of the image to something else, but I don't
> know what. But even after I find the image, I won't know what to do from
> there. I don't know what it means to distribute a file bytewise, but if
> I knew exactly which modules/functions to use, I'd be more than happy
> reading up on them myself. I just hate not knowing where to go to begin
> with (even though I know I probably won't know enough about images to
> use the right module properly either, but I can try).[/color]

If you give me the URL of that level, maybe I'll recall what to do.

Georg

[Just]

Re: just one more question about the python challenge

In article <Oq9%f.1962$No6 .42661@news.tuf ts.edu>,
John Salerno <johnjsal@NOSPA Mgmail.com> wrote:
[color=blue]
> Georg Brandl wrote:
>[color=green]
> > Have you found the file? You'll have to distribute that file bytewise
> > in 5 "piles".[/color]
>
> No, I haven't figured out anything for this puzzle. It seems I might
> have to change the filename of the image to something else, but I don't
> know what. But even after I find the image, I won't know what to do from
> there. I don't know what it means to distribute a file bytewise, but if
> I knew exactly which modules/functions to use, I'd be more than happy
> reading up on them myself. I just hate not knowing where to go to begin
> with (even though I know I probably won't know enough about images to
> use the right module properly either, but I can try).[/color]

Have a look at the url of the image, then try the next.

Just

[John Salerno]

Re: just one more question about the python challenge

Georg Brandl wrote:[color=blue]
> John Salerno wrote:[color=green]
>> Georg Brandl wrote:
>>[color=darkred]
>>> Have you found the file? You'll have to distribute that file bytewise
>>> in 5 "piles".[/color]
>> No, I haven't figured out anything for this puzzle. It seems I might
>> have to change the filename of the image to something else, but I don't
>> know what. But even after I find the image, I won't know what to do from
>> there. I don't know what it means to distribute a file bytewise, but if
>> I knew exactly which modules/functions to use, I'd be more than happy
>> reading up on them myself. I just hate not knowing where to go to begin
>> with (even though I know I probably won't know enough about images to
>> use the right module properly either, but I can try).[/color]
>
> If you give me the URL of that level, maybe I'll recall what to do.
>
> Georg[/color]

http://www.pythonchallenge.com/pc/return/evil.html

If you're prompted, the name and password are 'huge' and 'file'.

Thanks.

[Just]

Re: just one more question about the python challenge

In article <RZ9%f.1964$No6 .42766@news.tuf ts.edu>,
John Salerno <johnjsal@NOSPA Mgmail.com> wrote:
[color=blue]
> Georg Brandl wrote:[color=green]
> > John Salerno wrote:[color=darkred]
> >> Georg Brandl wrote:
> >>
> >>> Have you found the file? You'll have to distribute that file bytewise
> >>> in 5 "piles".
> >> No, I haven't figured out anything for this puzzle. It seems I might
> >> have to change the filename of the image to something else, but I don't
> >> know what. But even after I find the image, I won't know what to do from
> >> there. I don't know what it means to distribute a file bytewise, but if
> >> I knew exactly which modules/functions to use, I'd be more than happy
> >> reading up on them myself. I just hate not knowing where to go to begin
> >> with (even though I know I probably won't know enough about images to
> >> use the right module properly either, but I can try).[/color]
> >
> > If you give me the URL of that level, maybe I'll recall what to do.
> >
> > Georg[/color]
>
> http://www.pythonchallenge.com/pc/****/****
>
> If you're prompted, the name and password are '****' and '****'.[/color]

Erm, it's not nice to post complete solutions in a public forum.

Just

[John Salerno]

Re: just one more question about the python challenge

Just wrote:[color=blue]
> In article <Oq9%f.1962$No6 .42661@news.tuf ts.edu>,
> John Salerno <johnjsal@NOSPA Mgmail.com> wrote:
>[color=green]
>> Georg Brandl wrote:
>>[color=darkred]
>>> Have you found the file? You'll have to distribute that file bytewise
>>> in 5 "piles".[/color]
>> No, I haven't figured out anything for this puzzle. It seems I might
>> have to change the filename of the image to something else, but I don't
>> know what. But even after I find the image, I won't know what to do from
>> there. I don't know what it means to distribute a file bytewise, but if
>> I knew exactly which modules/functions to use, I'd be more than happy
>> reading up on them myself. I just hate not knowing where to go to begin
>> with (even though I know I probably won't know enough about images to
>> use the right module properly either, but I can try).[/color]
>
> Have a look at the url of the image, then try the next.
>
> Just[/color]

Interesting. So I have 3 images now (the 4th one didn't work, it just
showed the URL as HTML source). Aren't there supposed to be 5 images? I
also tried changing the file type to .gfx, but Photoshop couldn't open
it so I don't know if that's valid.

[John Salerno]

Re: just one more question about the python challenge

Just wrote:[color=blue]
> In article <RZ9%f.1964$No6 .42766@news.tuf ts.edu>,
> John Salerno <johnjsal@NOSPA Mgmail.com> wrote:
>[color=green]
>> Georg Brandl wrote:[color=darkred]
>>> John Salerno wrote:
>>>> Georg Brandl wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Have you found the file? You'll have to distribute that file bytewise
>>>>> in 5 "piles".
>>>> No, I haven't figured out anything for this puzzle. It seems I might
>>>> have to change the filename of the image to something else, but I don't
>>>> know what. But even after I find the image, I won't know what to do from
>>>> there. I don't know what it means to distribute a file bytewise, but if
>>>> I knew exactly which modules/functions to use, I'd be more than happy
>>>> reading up on them myself. I just hate not knowing where to go to begin
>>>> with (even though I know I probably won't know enough about images to
>>>> use the right module properly either, but I can try).
>>> If you give me the URL of that level, maybe I'll recall what to do.
>>>
>>> Georg[/color]
>> http://www.pythonchallenge.com/pc/****/****
>>
>> If you're prompted, the name and password are '****' and '****'.[/color]
>
> Erm, it's not nice to post complete solutions in a public forum.
>
> Just[/color]

Sorry!

[Georg Brandl]

Re: just one more question about the python challenge

John Salerno wrote:[color=blue]
> Just wrote:[color=green]
>> In article <Oq9%f.1962$No6 .42661@news.tuf ts.edu>,
>> John Salerno <johnjsal@NOSPA Mgmail.com> wrote:
>>[color=darkred]
>>> Georg Brandl wrote:
>>>
>>>> Have you found the file? You'll have to distribute that file bytewise
>>>> in 5 "piles".
>>> No, I haven't figured out anything for this puzzle. It seems I might
>>> have to change the filename of the image to something else, but I don't
>>> know what. But even after I find the image, I won't know what to do from
>>> there. I don't know what it means to distribute a file bytewise, but if
>>> I knew exactly which modules/functions to use, I'd be more than happy
>>> reading up on them myself. I just hate not knowing where to go to begin
>>> with (even though I know I probably won't know enough about images to
>>> use the right module properly either, but I can try).[/color]
>>
>> Have a look at the url of the image, then try the next.
>>
>> Just[/color]
>
> Interesting. So I have 3 images now (the 4th one didn't work, it just
> showed the URL as HTML source). Aren't there supposed to be 5 images? I
> also tried changing the file type to .gfx, but Photoshop couldn't open
> it so I don't know if that's valid.[/color]

At the second, don't rename the file, rename the URL.

Georg

[John Salerno]

Re: just one more question about the python challenge

Georg Brandl wrote:
[color=blue]
> At the second, don't rename the file, rename the URL.[/color]

Do you mean rename the URL *aside from* the file name? Here's the path
I've taken so far, with a little spoiler space just in case:

SPOILER SPACE
*
*
*
*
*
*
*
*
*
*
*
*
*
*
*
*
*
*
*
*
*
*

evil.html (starting page)
evil2.jpg
[evil2.gfx]
evil3.jpg
evil4.jpg (no image)

[Fredrik Lundh]

Re: just one more question about the python challenge

John Salerno wrote:
[color=blue][color=green]
> > At the second, don't rename the file, rename the URL.[/color]
>
> Do you mean rename the URL *aside from* the file name?[/color]

no, the URL you got when you followed georg's instructions will give you
some data that you need to manipulate before you can see what it is. to
figure out how to manipulate it, study the *first* image carefully. what
is the person on that page doing?

</F>

[John Salerno]

Re: just one more question about the python challenge

Fredrik Lundh wrote:[color=blue]
> John Salerno wrote:
>[color=green][color=darkred]
>>> At the second, don't rename the file, rename the URL.[/color]
>> Do you mean rename the URL *aside from* the file name?[/color]
>
> no, the URL you got when you followed georg's instructions will give you
> some data that you need to manipulate before you can see what it is. to
> figure out how to manipulate it, study the *first* image carefully. what
> is the person on that page doing?[/color]

Thanks Fredrik. I think my problem lies in not knowing what the 'data'
is I need to move on to the next step of the puzzle. I now have 3
images, along with gfx file. I know shuffling/unshuffling has something
to do with the puzzle, but I haven't figure out what yet. Am I wrong to
think that this is another PIL puzzle?

[Duncan Booth]

Re: just one more question about the python challenge

John Salerno wrote:
[color=blue]
> Thanks Fredrik. I think my problem lies in not knowing what the 'data'
> is I need to move on to the next step of the puzzle. I now have 3
> images, along with gfx file. I know shuffling/unshuffling has
> something to do with the puzzle, but I haven't figure out what yet. Am
> I wrong to think that this is another PIL puzzle?
>[/color]
If it is the one I think it is, then PIL is not required to solve it.
Studying the start of the file and looking for patterns might be more
useful.

[Georg Brandl]

Re: just one more question about the python challenge

John Salerno wrote:[color=blue]
> Fredrik Lundh wrote:[color=green]
>> John Salerno wrote:
>>[color=darkred]
>>>> At the second, don't rename the file, rename the URL.
>>> Do you mean rename the URL *aside from* the file name?[/color]
>>
>> no, the URL you got when you followed georg's instructions will give you
>> some data that you need to manipulate before you can see what it is. to
>> figure out how to manipulate it, study the *first* image carefully. what
>> is the person on that page doing?[/color]
>
> Thanks Fredrik. I think my problem lies in not knowing what the 'data'
> is I need to move on to the next step of the puzzle. I now have 3
> images, along with gfx file.[/color]

The images are perfect images, so there are chances there's no additional data
hidden in them.

The gfx file, however, isn't viewable yet. Hint, hint ;)

Georg