Python Debugger / IDE ??

[krypto.wizard@gmail.com]

Is there any editor or IDE in Python (either Windows or Linux) which
has very good debugging facilites like MS VisualStudio has or something
like that.

I like SPE but couldn't easily use winPDP. I need tips to debug my code
easily.

Every help is greatly appreciated.

Thanks

[olsongt@verizon.net]

Re: Python Debugger / IDE ??


krypto.wiz...@g mail.com wrote:[color=blue]
> Is there any editor or IDE in Python (either Windows or Linux) which
> has very good debugging facilites like MS VisualStudio has or something
> like that.
>
> I like SPE but couldn't easily use winPDP. I need tips to debug my code
> easily.
>
> Every help is greatly appreciated.
>
> Thanks[/color]

I've always been happy with the debugger in PythonWin. You can even
use:

from pywin.debugger import set_trace;set_t race()

to bring up the debugger directly from a script that wasn't originally
run in the ide.

[Rene Pijlman]

Re: Python Debugger / IDE ??

krypto.wizard@g mail.com:[color=blue]
>Is there any editor or IDE in Python (either Windows or Linux) which
>has very good debugging facilites like MS VisualStudio has or something
>like that.[/color]

Here's a recent thread about IDEs:

http://groups.google.nl/group/comp.lang.python/browse_frm/thread/fd9604e225252ad4

--
René Pijlman

[danmcleran@yahoo.com]

Re: Python Debugger / IDE ??

>Is there any editor or IDE in Python (either Windows or Linux) which[color=blue]
>has very good debugging facilites like MS VisualStudio has or something
>like that.[/color]

I've been using Eclipse with PyDev and am very happy with it.

[Scott David Daniels]

Re: Python Debugger / IDE ??

krypto.wizard@g mail.com wrote:[color=blue]
> Is there any editor or IDE in Python (either Windows or Linux) which
> has very good debugging facilites like MS VisualStudio has or something
> like that.
>
> I like SPE but couldn't easily use winPDP. I need tips to debug my code
> easily.
>
> Every help is greatly appreciated.
>
> Thanks
>[/color]
If you don't mind spending (not so much) money, ActiveState's Komodo
is a nice debugger. With it you can even debug a Python program on
a remote machine over a network connection (ideal for GUI problems).

--Scott David Daniels
scott.daniels@a cm.org

[bruno at modulix]

Re: Python Debugger / IDE ??

krypto.wizard@g mail.com wrote:[color=blue]
> Is there any editor or IDE in Python (either Windows or Linux) which
> has very good debugging facilites like MS VisualStudio has or something
> like that.
>
> I like SPE but couldn't easily use winPDP. I need tips to debug my code
> easily.[/color]

pythonic "debugging" in three steps:

1/ unit tests
2/ a bunch of print statements
3/ the interactive python shell

All this relying on well-decoupled, modular code.

FWIW, I've almost never used a debugger with Python.

HTH
--
bruno desthuilliers
python -c "print '@'.join(['.'.join([w[::-1] for w in p.split('.')]) for
p in 'onurb@xiludom. gro'.split('@')])"

[krypto.wizard@gmail.com]

Re: Python Debugger / IDE ??

My code has got big and it is an iterative program. I use print
statements but I thought I could get something handy it would be useful
to me.

thanks

[Larry Bates]

Re: Python Debugger / IDE ??

krypto.wizard@g mail.com wrote:[color=blue]
> Is there any editor or IDE in Python (either Windows or Linux) which
> has very good debugging facilites like MS VisualStudio has or something
> like that.
>
> I like SPE but couldn't easily use winPDP. I need tips to debug my code
> easily.
>
> Every help is greatly appreciated.
>
> Thanks
>[/color]
I've found that using logging works well for me. I put statements in
my program that log information, trace, intermediate results, ..., and
wrap them in trace/debug if statements. Higher values of debug get more
"stuff" logged. Then I leave everything in the program. When something
goes wrong, run it with debug level and I can figure out what is
happening. This is especially good when problem pops up 2 years from
now. I just have client run with debug=4 and I look at the logfile. If
you get in a habit of writing ALL your software this way, you find that
it is quite powerful and easy. I haven't found the overhead of all the
if statements to be anything to worry about. You can use the standard
library logging module (I wrote my own before it was available and I've
never changed to the one in the standard library).

-Larry Bates

[Felipe Almeida Lessa]

Re: Python Debugger / IDE ??

Em Ter, 2006-03-14 às 09:44 -0800, danmcleran@yaho o.com escreveu:[color=blue][color=green]
> >Is there any editor or IDE in Python (either Windows or Linux) which
> >has very good debugging facilites like MS VisualStudio has or something
> >like that.[/color]
>
> I've been using Eclipse with PyDev and am very happy with it.[/color]

I second that. It's the best Python IDE I've ever used. But you won't
get too far with less than 512 MiB of RAM...

--
"Quem excele em empregar a força militar subjulga os exércitos dos
outros povos sem travar batalha, toma cidades fortificadas dos outros
povos sem as atacar e destrói os estados dos outros povos sem lutas
prolongadas. Deve lutar sob o Céu com o propósito primordial da
'preservação' . Desse modo suas armas não se embotarão, e os ganhos
poderão ser preservados. Essa é a estratégia para planejar ofensivas."

-- Sun Tzu, em "A arte da guerra"

[jean-michel bain-cornu]

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olsongt@verizon .net wrote:[color=blue]
> I've always been happy with the debugger in PythonWin. You can even
> use:
>
> from pywin.debugger import set_trace;set_t race()
>
> to bring up the debugger directly from a script that wasn't originally
> run in the ide.[/color]
I use that one also.
There is also Boa (http://boa-constructor.sourceforge.net/), available
both in Linux and Windows, and with the avantage of having a separate
process for the debugging unit, which is great when you have to explore
some unsane scripts.
Regards
jm

[jean-michel bain-cornu]

Re: Python Debugger / IDE ??

bruno at modulix wrote:[color=blue]
> FWIW, I've almost never used a debugger with Python.[/color]
It's pourtant very simpa from time to time !

[Christoph Zwerschke]

Re: Python Debugger / IDE ??

krypto.wizard@g mail.com schrieb:[color=blue]
> Is there any editor or IDE in Python (either Windows or Linux) which
> has very good debugging facilites like MS VisualStudio has or something
> like that.
>
> I like SPE but couldn't easily use winPDP. I need tips to debug my code
> easily.[/color]

You can try out PyScripter, a relatively new Python IDE that is
completely free and has nice debugging and unit testing facilities.

The latest version is available here:

http://mmm-experts.com/Downloads.aspx?ProductID=4&ShowVersionInfo=yes

-- Christoph

[krypto.wizard@gmail.com]

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I like the Pyscripter, is there any Linux version or something of it.
Christoph Zwerschke wrote:[color=blue]
> krypto.wizard@g mail.com schrieb:[color=green]
> > Is there any editor or IDE in Python (either Windows or Linux) which
> > has very good debugging facilites like MS VisualStudio has or something
> > like that.
> >
> > I like SPE but couldn't easily use winPDP. I need tips to debug my code
> > easily.[/color]
>
> You can try out PyScripter, a relatively new Python IDE that is
> completely free and has nice debugging and unit testing facilities.
>
> The latest version is available here:
> http://mmm-experts.com/Downloads.asp...ersionInfo=yes
>
> -- Christoph[/color]

[Christoph Zwerschke]

Re: Python Debugger / IDE ??

krypto.wizard@g mail.com wrote:[color=blue]
> I like the Pyscripter, is there any Linux version or something of it.[/color]

Sorry, I forgot to mention that there is a snag in it. Since PyScripter
is based on Python for Delphi, it is available for Windows only.

-- Christoph

[Bruno Desthuilliers]

Re: Python Debugger / IDE ??

krypto.wizard@g mail.com a écrit :[color=blue]
> My code has got big[/color]

How big ? More than 50 kloc ?-)

Big project doesn't imply long functions nor fat classes.
[color=blue]
> and it is an iterative program.[/color]

Sorry, I don't understand what you mean by "iterative" here.