age of Python programmers

[Martin Bless]

Re: age of Python programmers

["Lucas Raab" <pythongnome@ho tmail.com>]
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>One thing I've always kind of wondered is what is the average age of a
>Python programmer??[/color]


49.

Started 1974 punching cards for an IBM 1130 machine. A highlight: Fill
a complete program with two interrupt routines into a single punch
card. It would write something like "job defect" on the typewriter
console. Just one card means: you can use just 80 words of code on
that 16-bit machine. And since a column on a card only had 12 rows
your could use only a special subset of availabe machine instructions.

Then there came the TRS-80. I'm still proud of the way I stored my Z80
assembler routines in REM lines of a basic program. That way I could
easily merge und bundle those "machine language" routines. Yes, I
lived very much in the book with the ROM disassembly listing those
days ;-)

And I remember taking a (INTER-) LISP course. I liked it alot but
never managed to be productive with LISP.

Now I have what I need to have fun *and* accomplish useful things:
Python! Many thanks to all who help developing this cool language!

MB - Martin Bless

[Christos TZOTZIOY Georgiou]

Re: age of Python programmers

On Fri, 20 Aug 2004 10:23:16 +0200, rumours say that Gerrit Muller
<gerrit.muller@ embeddedsystems .nl> might have written:

[snip][color=blue]
>The most
>positive experiences were Sinclair QL-basic, [snip][/color]

I'll drink to that!

PS If only IBM had initially chosen a Motorola CPU for their PC...
--
TZOTZIOY, I speak England very best,
"Tssss!" --Brad Pitt as Achilles in unprecedented Ancient Greek

[huy]

Re: age of Python programmers

Skip Montanaro wrote:[color=blue]
> Dave> Python fits my brain.
>
> I agree. This gets my nod for QOTW.
>
> Skip[/color]

Lucky for me I found python before Java took over my brain.

Huy

[Ville Vainio]

Re: age of Python programmers

>>>>> "Christos" == TZOTZIOY <Christos> writes:

Christos> On Fri, 20 Aug 2004 10:23:16 +0200, rumours say that
Christos> Gerrit Muller <gerrit.muller@ embeddedsystems .nl> might
Christos> have written:
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>> The most
>> positive experiences were Sinclair QL-basic, [snip][/color][/color]

Christos> I'll drink to that!

Apparently there is some good karma in Sinclair QL - Linus also used
to hack on it.

I had MSX (SVI-728), which probably steered me more towards coding
than C64 would have (most friends had one of those, along with 500+
games ;-) - it had a decent basic (MS basic) from Microsoft's pre-evil
era.

Ah, even seeing the SVI-728 acronym puts me on the nostalgy train...

--
Ville Vainio http://tinyurl.com/2prnb

[Reid Nichol]

Re: age of Python programmers

Gerrit Muller wrote:[color=blue]
> Roel Schroeven wrote:
>[color=green]
>> Roel Schroeven wrote:
>>[color=darkred]
>>> I spotted some errors in your list, added new entries, and made a
>>> histogram: http://roelschroeven.net/pythonages/[/color]
>>
>>[/color]
> Very cool. It might be good idea to add a date and time at the top,
> since new datapoint keep coming in?[/color]
How about labels for the axes as well.

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> and then a quantum leap towards Python.[/color]
You're aware that a quantum leap means a extremely small leap, right?

[Roel Schroeven]

Re: age of Python programmers

Reid Nichol wrote:
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> Gerrit Muller wrote:
>[color=green]
>> Roel Schroeven wrote:
>>[color=darkred]
>>> Roel Schroeven wrote:
>>>
>>>> I spotted some errors in your list, added new entries, and made a
>>>> histogram: http://roelschroeven.net/pythonages/
>>>
>>>
>>>[/color]
>> Very cool. It might be good idea to add a date and time at the top,
>> since new datapoint keep coming in?[/color]
>
> How about labels for the axes as well.[/color]

I thought it would be fairly obvious, but I added labels anyway. I'm not
satisfied with there positioning though, and I don't know how to correct
it (it's the first time ever I use matplotlib).

--
"Codito ergo sum"
Roel Schroeven

[Tim Hochberg]

Re: age of Python programmers

Reid Nichol wrote:[color=blue]
> Gerrit Muller wrote:
>[color=green]
>> Roel Schroeven wrote:
>>[color=darkred]
>>> Roel Schroeven wrote:
>>>
>>>> I spotted some errors in your list, added new entries, and made a
>>>> histogram: http://roelschroeven.net/pythonages/
>>>
>>>
>>>[/color]
>> Very cool. It might be good idea to add a date and time at the top,
>> since new datapoint keep coming in?[/color]
>
> How about labels for the axes as well.
>
>[color=green]
>> and then a quantum leap towards Python.[/color]
>
> You're aware that a quantum leap means a extremely small leap, right?[/color]

While quanta are typically very-very-very small, last I checked the key
feature of quantum transitions is not that they're small, but that there
are no intermediate steps. The object is in state A then it's in state
B, but it's never halfway (or anywhere) between. Like most quantum stuff
it's better not to think about that too closely.

-tim

[Reid Nichol]

Re: age of Python programmers

huy wrote:[color=blue]
> Skip Montanaro wrote:
>[color=green]
>> Dave> Python fits my brain.
>>
>> I agree. This gets my nod for QOTW.
>>
>> Skip[/color]
>
>
> Lucky for me I found python before Java took over my brain.
>
> Huy[/color]

Amen to that!

[Mark Jackson]

Re: age of Python programmers

Reid Nichol <rnichol_rrc@ya hoo.com> writes:[color=blue]
> Gerrit Muller wrote:[/color]
[color=blue][color=green]
> > and then a quantum leap towards Python.[/color]
> You're aware that a quantum leap means a extremely small leap, right?[/color]

Everything's relative - compared to the smallest possible change in the
classical continuum, a quantum leap is *huge*.

--
Mark Jackson - http://www.alumni.caltech.edu/~mjackson
Fascism should more properly be called corporatism, since it
is the merger of state and corporate power.
- Benito Mussolini

[Peter Hansen]

Re: age of Python programmers

Tim Hochberg wrote:
[color=blue]
> Reid Nichol wrote:[color=green]
>> Gerrit Muller wrote:[color=darkred]
>>> and then a quantum leap towards Python.[/color]
>> You're aware that a quantum leap means a extremely small leap, right?[/color]
>
> While quanta are typically very-very-very small, last I checked the key
> feature of quantum transitions is not that they're small, but that there
> are no intermediate steps. The object is in state A then it's in state
> B, but it's never halfway (or anywhere) between. Like most quantum stuff
> it's better not to think about that too closely.[/color]

And at least some dictionaries give it as a synonym for "large"
or "significan t". (www.m-w.com for one)

-Peter

[beliavsky@aol.com]

Re: age of Python programmers

"Lucas Raab" <pythongnome@ho tmail.com> wrote in message news:<jQHUc.152 9$2L3.505@newsr ead3.news.atl.e arthlink.net>.. .[color=blue]
> One thing I've always kind of wondered is what is the average age of a
> Python programmer?? What age groups use Python?? Something to think
> about....[/color]

Related question -- at what age can Python be taught to a bright, motivated child?

[Jarek Zgoda]

Re: age of Python programmers

beliavsky@aol.c om <beliavsky@aol. com> pisze:
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>> One thing I've always kind of wondered is what is the average age of a
>> Python programmer?? What age groups use Python?? Something to think
>> about....[/color]
>
> Related question -- at what age can Python be taught to a bright, motivated child?[/color]

My daughter is 3 months old and I can be authoritative -- it's too
early. Although she's bright and motivated, of course. ;)

--
Jarek Zgoda

http://jpa.berlios.de/

[Peter Hansen]

Re: age of Python programmers

beliavsky@aol.c om wrote:
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> "Lucas Raab" <pythongnome@ho tmail.com> wrote in message news:<jQHUc.152 9$2L3.505@newsr ead3.news.atl.e arthlink.net>.. .
>[color=green]
>>One thing I've always kind of wondered is what is the average age of a
>>Python programmer?? What age groups use Python?? Something to think
>>about....[/color]
>
> Related question -- at what age can Python be taught to a bright, motivated child?[/color]

I expect to be old enough to teach Python to a bright, motivated
child or two (maybe even mine) in a few more years. ;-)

-Peter

[Jeff Shannon]

Re: age of Python programmers

Tim Hochberg wrote:
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> Reid Nichol wrote:
>[color=green]
>> You're aware that a quantum leap means a extremely small leap, right?[/color]
>
>
> While quanta are typically very-very-very small, last I checked the
> key feature of quantum transitions is not that they're small, but that
> there are no intermediate steps. The object is in state A then it's in
> state B, but it's never halfway (or anywhere) between. Like most
> quantum stuff it's better not to think about that too closely.[/color]


And let's note, here, that "quantum" is not by any means restricted to
the domain of quantum-mechanical physics. It's true that, within that
domain, quanta are almost always a very small amount. But, as Tim says,
the important feature of a quantum is that it's the smallest possible
change of a given measurement, and implies a discrete (rather than
continuum) underpinning to that measurement. It just so happens that
the most well-known and talked-about quantum domains are related to
subatomic physics, where the quanta involved are indeed very very small;
but there's no /a priori/ restriction of quanta to apply only in that field.

Jeff Shannon
Technician/Programmer
Credit International

[Reid Nichol]

Re: age of Python programmers

Mark Jackson wrote:[color=blue]
> Reid Nichol <rnichol_rrc@ya hoo.com> writes:
>[color=green]
>>Gerrit Muller wrote:[/color]
>
>[color=green][color=darkred]
>>>and then a quantum leap towards Python.[/color]
>>
>>You're aware that a quantum leap means a extremely small leap, right?[/color]
>
>
> Everything's relative - compared to the smallest possible change in the
> classical continuum, a quantum leap is *huge*.
>[/color]

True, but this doesn't change the definition of the word.

from dictionary.refe rence.com:
The smallest amount of a physical quantity that can exist independently,
especially a discrete quantity of electromagnetic radiation.