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  • John
    #1

    Best Python IDE Code Completion!

    Hi,
    Could you give your opinions on the best code completion in Python
    IDEs. My only complaint with PythonWin has been that the code
    completion support is incomplete. The interactive mode has better
    behavior than the editor. Tried to fix it but could not. Boa is not
    too different. At least when I last checked (a few months ago) Komodo
    and Visual Python were not very different either.

    Wing IDE seems converse. The editor auto list members is great but
    has no calltips. The interactive window has no completion at all.

    I have not checked PythonWorks and Black Adder in a while but their
    web sites do not seem to brag much in this direction.

    Python has great introspective capabilities and we have a great open
    contributing community. What technical difficulties keep us from
    having REAL code completion like MS, Borland and several Java IDEs
    (All of which have been funded at one time or the other if not
    entirely - perhaps this is the reason?)

    For me, code completion is a very important part of the coding
    experience and I really miss it in Python in it's full effect.
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    • Mirko Zeibig
      #2
      Re: Best Python IDE Code Completion!

      John said the following on 01/15/2004 12:52 PM:[color=blue]
      > Wing IDE seems converse. The editor auto list members is great but
      > has no calltips. The interactive window has no completion at all.[/color]
      I second this, though the editor sometimes need a bit of help ...
      and I do not like the MDI approach they have.
      [color=blue]
      > Python has great introspective capabilities and we have a great open
      > contributing community. What technical difficulties keep us from
      > having REAL code completion like MS, Borland and several Java IDEs
      > (All of which have been funded at one time or the other if not
      > entirely - perhaps this is the reason?)[/color]

      Python is dynamically typed, so no editor in the world can guess the
      type of any function parameters correctly. If you know about the true
      nature of one, you may assist Wing IDE by using isinstance.

      class Klass(object):

      def hello(self):
      print "Hello"

      def foo(bar):
      assert isinstance(bar, Klass)
      bar.hello()

      Without the assert line, it's impossible to detect which type bar has.
      Only during runtime the type of bar is known.

      Regards
      Mirko
      --

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        • yshurik
          #3
          Re: Best Python IDE Code Completion!

          John wrote:
          [color=blue]
          > Hi,
          > Could you give your opinions on the best code completion in Python
          > IDEs. My only complaint with PythonWin has been that the code
          > completion support is incomplete. The interactive mode has better
          > behavior than the editor. Tried to fix it but could not. Boa is not
          > too different. At least when I last checked (a few months ago) Komodo
          > and Visual Python were not very different either.
          >
          > Wing IDE seems converse. The editor auto list members is great but
          > has no calltips. The interactive window has no completion at all.
          >
          > I have not checked PythonWorks and Black Adder in a while but their
          > web sites do not seem to brag much in this direction.[/color]

          About BlackAdder: because it is oriented to GUI programming.
          in version 1.1 it will have completion for Qt classes and functions.
          and completion to all words which happens in edited text.
          (it is Vi - like style of completion - Ctrl-N, Ctrl-P)
          [color=blue]
          >
          > Python has great introspective capabilities and we have a great open
          > contributing community. What technical difficulties keep us from
          > having REAL code completion like MS, Borland and several Java IDEs
          > (All of which have been funded at one time or the other if not
          > entirely - perhaps this is the reason?)
          >
          > For me, code completion is a very important part of the coding
          > experience and I really miss it in Python in it's full effect.[/color]

          --
          Best regards

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            • Rudy Schockaert
              #4
              Re: Best Python IDE Code Completion!

              yshurik wrote:[color=blue]
              > John wrote:
              >
              >[color=green]
              >>Hi,
              >> Could you give your opinions on the best code completion in Python
              >>IDEs. My only complaint with PythonWin has been that the code
              >>completion support is incomplete. The interactive mode has better
              >>behavior than the editor. Tried to fix it but could not. Boa is not
              >>too different. At least when I last checked (a few months ago) Komodo
              >>and Visual Python were not very different either.
              >>
              >> Wing IDE seems converse. The editor auto list members is great but
              >>has no calltips. The interactive window has no completion at all.
              >>
              >> I have not checked PythonWorks and Black Adder in a while but their
              >>web sites do not seem to brag much in this direction.[/color]
              >
              >
              > About BlackAdder: because it is oriented to GUI programming.
              > in version 1.1 it will have completion for Qt classes and functions.
              > and completion to all words which happens in edited text.
              > (it is Vi - like style of completion - Ctrl-N, Ctrl-P)
              >
              >[color=green]
              >> Python has great introspective capabilities and we have a great open
              >>contributin g community. What technical difficulties keep us from
              >>having REAL code completion like MS, Borland and several Java IDEs
              >>(All of which have been funded at one time or the other if not
              >>entirely - perhaps this is the reason?)
              >>
              >> For me, code completion is a very important part of the coding
              >>experience and I really miss it in Python in it's full effect.[/color]
              >
              >[/color]
              Have you checked out SPE (Stani's Python Editor):

              Spe is a python IDE with wxGlade GUI designer, auto-indentation, auto
              completion, call tips, syntax coloring, syntax highlighting, class
              explorer, source index, auto todo list, sticky notes, integrated pycrust
              shell, python file browser, recent file browser, drag&drop, context
              help, ... Special is its blender support with a blender 3d object
              browser and its ability to run interactively inside blender. Spe is
              extensible with boa.

              You can find it at http://spe.pycs.net/

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