Python & Expect

**Peter Hansen** · Jul 18 '05, 06:32 AM

Re: Python & Expect

Jeff Wagner wrote:[color=blue]
>
> Is there an Expect-like module for Python that is cross platform and, for the most part, does what
> Expect does? A number of years ago, I wrote some Tcl scripts using Expect for automation. I am
> trying to convince my good friend who I worked with at the time to try Python. He said, "what about
> Expect?"
>
> I have heard of a Pexpect but was told that it didn't run on win32 and he needs win32 and Linux
> support both.[/color]

Hmmm... let's see what Google brings up... (typing)

Google Search

http://www.google.com/search?q=python+expect

Wow! Look at that! Pexpect is the first hit. Let's try accessing that
page and see what it says. (click) Ah, there's a "Requiremen ts" link: (click)

--------------------------------------------
Python
Pexpect was written and tested with Python 2.1. It should work on earlier versions
that have the pty module. ...

pty module
Any POSIX system (UNIX) with a working pty module should be able to run Pexpect.
The pty module is part of the Standard Python Library, so if you are running on
a POSIX system you should have it. The pty module does not run as well on all platforms.
I have taken effort to try to smooth the wrinkles out the different platforms. To
learn more about the wrinkles see Bugs and Testing.

Pexpect does not currently work on the standard Windows Python(see the pty requirement);
however, it seems to work fine using Cygwin. ...

--------------------------------------------

Okay, Jeff, consider your wrist slapped for not even trying... :-)

-Peter

**Jeff Wagner** · Jul 18 '05, 06:32 AM

Re: Python & Expect

On Wed, 10 Dec 2003 08:57:18 -0500, Peter Hansen <peter@engcorp. com> wrotf:
[color=blue]
>Jeff Wagner wrote:[color=green]
>>
>> Is there an Expect-like module for Python that is cross platform and, for the most part, does what
>> Expect does? A number of years ago, I wrote some Tcl scripts using Expect for automation. I am
>> trying to convince my good friend who I worked with at the time to try Python. He said, "what about
>> Expect?"
>>
>> I have heard of a Pexpect but was told that it didn't run on win32 and he needs win32 and Linux
>> support both.[/color]
>
>Hmmm... let's see what Google brings up... (typing)
>
>http://www.google.com/search?q=python+expect
>
>Wow! Look at that! Pexpect is the first hit. Let's try accessing that
>page and see what it says. (click) Ah, there's a "Requiremen ts" link: (click)
>
>--------------------------------------------
>Python
>Pexpect was written and tested with Python 2.1. It should work on earlier versions
>that have the pty module. ...
>
>pty module
>Any POSIX system (UNIX) with a working pty module should be able to run Pexpect.
>The pty module is part of the Standard Python Library, so if you are running on
>a POSIX system you should have it. The pty module does not run as well on all platforms.
>I have taken effort to try to smooth the wrinkles out the different platforms. To
>learn more about the wrinkles see Bugs and Testing.
>
>Pexpect does not currently work on the standard Windows Python(see the pty requirement);
>however, it seems to work fine using Cygwin. ...
>
>--------------------------------------------
>
>Okay, Jeff, consider your wrist slapped for not even trying... :-)
>
>-Peter[/color]

Ouch ;)

Ok, I did look at it and mentioned in my post that Pexpect doesn't run on win32. The question was,
is there a Expect-like module that does run on win32. I couldn't find one.

Jeff

**Cameron Laird** · Jul 18 '05, 06:33 AM

Re: Python & Expect

In article <nkjetvod84erkm h6f0098lvac6hli fgaha@4ax.com>,
Jeff Wagner <JWagner@hotmai l.com> wrote:[color=blue]
>On Wed, 10 Dec 2003 08:57:18 -0500, Peter Hansen <peter@engcorp. com> wrotf:
>[color=green]
>>Jeff Wagner wrote:[color=darkred]
>>>
>>> Is there an Expect-like module for Python that is cross platform and,[/color][/color]
>for the most part, does what[color=green][color=darkred]
>>> Expect does? A number of years ago, I wrote some Tcl scripts using[/color][/color]
>Expect for automation. I am[color=green][color=darkred]
>>> trying to convince my good friend who I worked with at the time to[/color][/color]
>try Python. He said, "what about[color=green][color=darkred]
>>> Expect?"
>>>
>>> I have heard of a Pexpect but was told that it didn't run on win32[/color][/color]
>and he needs win32 and Linux[color=green][color=darkred]
>>> support both.[/color][/color][/color]

**Luther Barnum** · Jul 18 '05, 06:33 AM

Re: Python & Expect

Instead of being the newsgroup cop, maybe you should use a little humility
and actually read the post. It's guys like you that scare newbies from
newsgroups. I'll bet you didn't know everything when you posted your last
question.

Luther

"Peter Hansen" <peter@engcorp. com> wrote in message
news:3FD7263E.1 10F9CC4@engcorp .com...[color=blue]
> Jeff Wagner wrote:[color=green]
> >
> > Is there an Expect-like module for Python that is cross platform and,[/color][/color]
for the most part, does what[color=blue][color=green]
> > Expect does? A number of years ago, I wrote some Tcl scripts using[/color][/color]
Expect for automation. I am[color=blue][color=green]
> > trying to convince my good friend who I worked with at the time to try[/color][/color]
Python. He said, "what about[color=blue][color=green]
> > Expect?"
> >
> > I have heard of a Pexpect but was told that it didn't run on win32 and[/color][/color]
he needs win32 and Linux[color=blue][color=green]
> > support both.[/color]
>
> Hmmm... let's see what Google brings up... (typing)
>
> http://www.google.com/search?q=python+expect
>
> Wow! Look at that! Pexpect is the first hit. Let's try accessing that
> page and see what it says. (click) Ah, there's a "Requiremen ts" link:[/color]
(click)[color=blue]
>
> --------------------------------------------
> Python
> Pexpect was written and tested with Python 2.1. It should work on earlier[/color]
versions[color=blue]
> that have the pty module. ...
>
> pty module
> Any POSIX system (UNIX) with a working pty module should be able to run[/color]
Pexpect.[color=blue]
> The pty module is part of the Standard Python Library, so if you are[/color]
running on[color=blue]
> a POSIX system you should have it. The pty module does not run as well on[/color]
all platforms.[color=blue]
> I have taken effort to try to smooth the wrinkles out the different[/color]
platforms. To[color=blue]
> learn more about the wrinkles see Bugs and Testing.
>
> Pexpect does not currently work on the standard Windows Python(see the pty[/color]
requirement);[color=blue]
> however, it seems to work fine using Cygwin. ...
>
> --------------------------------------------
>
> Okay, Jeff, consider your wrist slapped for not even trying... :-)
>
> -Peter
>[/color]

**Peter Hansen** · Jul 18 '05, 06:33 AM

OT: Peter Hansen needs to use some humility (was Re: Python & Expect)

Luther Barnum wrote:[color=blue]
>
> Instead of being the newsgroup cop, maybe you should use a little humility
> and actually read the post. It's guys like you that scare newbies from
> newsgroups. I'll bet you didn't know everything when you posted your last
> question.[/color]

Hmmm... I thought it was guys like me that answer dozens of questions
every week from newbies and others, but maybe I mistook me for someone else.

I did read Jeff's message, though, twice (once before responding, once
before sending). The second time I read it, I noticed (again) that he was
apparently aware that Pexpect did not work under Windows, but note his words:
"I have heard of Pexpect but was told".... a very clear indication that
he didn't know the real and full story, and hadn't visited the site. I tried
to provide in a somewhat humorous way the hint that "Google is your friend",
and I don't think he took offense (nor was any intended). Note also that
my response actually provided additional information as well: the fact that
Pexpect *does* "work fine using cygwin" under Windows, which apparently
Jeff didn't know either.

Yes, I could probably use a little humility, but I don't think you're
attacking me on the right issue here since I did read the post quite
thoroughly.

And no, I "didn't know everything" when I last asked a question here(*),
but I would have visited Google for a while before I did.

I apologize if I scare you, but I don't apologize for making repeated
reminders from time to time that people should do the initial legwork
themselves before asking. Nor, for that matter, do I apologize for
playing "net cop" from time to time and asking people to post test
messages elsewhere, to avoid cross-posting, to remember to change the
subject line when they change the subject, etc. etc. One reason Usenet
has gotten hard to use at times is because of the huge influx of newbies
and a lack of courage on the part of the oldsters to try to educate them
more often on proper netiquette.

-Peter

(*) I don't remember the last time I asked a question, but I believe it
was several months ago. I asked another one sometime last year, and I
think I've asked two others before that. One the other hand, I've posted
roughly ... let's see what Google says ... about 3,190 messages here in
the last three years. And I happen to believe a few of those have actually
helped people... While I actually appreciate attempts to improve my own
behaviour when I'm out of line, I'm fairly certain that I wasn't this time.

**Cameron Laird** · Jul 18 '05, 06:33 AM

Re: OT: Peter Hansen needs to use some humility (was Re: Python & Expect)

In article <3FD7906E.13832 168@engcorp.com >,
Peter Hansen <peter@engcorp. com> wrote:

**Fredrik Lundh** · Jul 18 '05, 06:33 AM

Re: OT: Peter Hansen needs to use some humility (was Re: Python&Expe ct)

Cameron Laird wrote:
[color=blue]
> Long term, the latter might be a greater benefit. I know how
> much it means to me when someone helps me learn how to use
> resources better.[/color]

who has time to learn? wasn't the internet supposed to
eliminate all that?

</F>

**Peter Hansen** · Jul 18 '05, 06:34 AM

Re: OT: Peter Hansen needs to use some humility (was Re: Python&Expe ct)

Fredrik Lundh wrote:[color=blue]
>
> Cameron Laird wrote:
>[color=green]
> > Long term, the latter might be a greater benefit. I know how
> > much it means to me when someone helps me learn how to use
> > resources better.[/color]
>
> who has time to learn? wasn't the internet supposed to
> eliminate all that?[/color]

Google Search

http://www.google.com/search?q=how+to+use+resources+better

;-)

**Cameron Laird** · Jul 18 '05, 06:34 AM

Re: OT: Peter Hansen needs to use some humility (was Re: Python&Expe ct)

In article <3FD876B8.74E1A BE1@engcorp.com >,
Peter Hansen <peter@engcorp. com> wrote:[color=blue]
>Fredrik Lundh wrote:[color=green]
>>
>> Cameron Laird wrote:
>>[color=darkred]
>> > Long term, the latter might be a greater benefit. I know how
>> > much it means to me when someone helps me learn how to use
>> > resources better.[/color]
>>
>> who has time to learn? wasn't the internet supposed to
>> eliminate all that?[/color]
>
>http://www.google.com/search?q=how+t...sources+better
>
>;-)[/color]

<URL: http://www.unixreview.com/documents/s=8472/ur0308i/ >, back at you.
--

Cameron Laird <claird@phaseit .net>
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