Gadfly DB in python standard library?

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  • Brian O. Bush

    Gadfly DB in python standard library?

    A while ago, I recall hearing that Gadfly might be included into the
    python standard library. What happened?

    As I recall, the issue was the license.

    Brian
  • Anthony Baxter

    #2
    Re: Gadfly DB in python standard library?

    [color=blue][color=green][color=darkred]
    >>> Brian O. Bush wrote[/color][/color]
    > A while ago, I recall hearing that Gadfly might be included into the
    > python standard library. What happened?
    >
    > As I recall, the issue was the license.[/color]

    Not just the license - there's a hesitation about including a large,
    complex piece of code without someone who's completely across it and
    willing to support it. I attempted a while ago to do a major refactoring
    of the gadfly internals to use more modern python idioms. This attempt
    failed due to the complexity of the code and the lack of strong unit
    tests of the gadfly internals.

    This, more than the license (which I believe Aaron was quite happy to
    address), was the main reason this didn't happen.

    I believe there is still merit to including an SQL database being in
    the standard distribution of python - personally I could live with
    sqlite being included.

    Anthony

    --
    Anthony Baxter <anthony@interl ink.com.au>
    It's never too late to have a happy childhood.


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    • A.M. Kuchling

      #3
      Re: Gadfly DB in python standard library?

      On Sun, 16 Nov 2003 03:38:08 +1100,
      Anthony Baxter <anthony@interl ink.com.au> wrote:[color=blue]
      > I believe there is still merit to including an SQL database being in
      > the standard distribution of python - personally I could live with
      > sqlite being included.[/color]

      +1 from me. In retrospect, it probably would have been more useful to add
      sqlite than BerkeleyDB support to Python 2.3.

      --amk

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      • Jp Calderone

        #4
        Re: Gadfly DB in python standard library?

        On Sat, Nov 15, 2003 at 04:30:04PM -0600, A.M. Kuchling wrote:[color=blue]
        > On Sun, 16 Nov 2003 03:38:08 +1100,
        > Anthony Baxter <anthony@interl ink.com.au> wrote:[color=green]
        > > I believe there is still merit to including an SQL database being in
        > > the standard distribution of python - personally I could live with
        > > sqlite being included.[/color]
        >
        > +1 from me. In retrospect, it probably would have been more useful to add
        > sqlite than BerkeleyDB support to Python 2.3.
        >[/color]

        FWIW, I'm glad bsddb is there :)

        Jp

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        • Gerhard Häring

          #5
          Re: Gadfly DB in python standard library?

          A.M. Kuchling wrote:[color=blue]
          > On Sun, 16 Nov 2003 03:38:08 +1100,
          > Anthony Baxter <anthony@interl ink.com.au> wrote:
          >[color=green]
          >>I believe there is still merit to including an SQL database being in
          >>the standard distribution of python - personally I could live with
          >>sqlite being included.[/color]
          >
          >
          > +1 from me. In retrospect, it probably would have been more useful to add
          > sqlite than BerkeleyDB support to Python 2.3.[/color]

          Being the primary PySQLite maintainer, that's good to hear :)

          -0 from me for adding either Gadfly or PySQLite to the standard Python
          distribution. I can't see any merit in this.

          I also see the danger of PySQLite/Gadfly being used for purposes they're
          not appropriate if they're included in the standard distribution.

          -- Gerhard


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