wanted($): mac and linux python gui coders for porting

**Steve Holden** · Jul 18 '05, 02:36 AM

Re: wanted($): mac and linux python gui coders for porting

"Mark Hahn" <mark@hahnca.co m> wrote in message
news:EHr9b.3654 0$n94.18214@fed 1read04...[color=blue]
> (I apologize in advance if this is not an appropriate posting)
>
> I have written a simple windows shareware app, EzPicMailer, in Python 2.3,
> wxPython 2.4.1, and PIL 1.1.4 that lets computer novices find photo[/color]
files,[color=blue]
> edit them, and mail them, all in one simple app. Everyone is encouraged[/color]
to[color=blue]
> check out my beta version at http://EzPicMailer.com.
>
> I wrote it to be cross-platform except for a small amout of windows code[/color]
to[color=blue]
> do the system beep and to find the desktop and home folders.
>
> Now I need a Mac programmer and a Linux programmer to port to these
> environments for me. I'm new to shareware but I'm guessing that paying[/color]
10%[color=blue]
> of gross license receipts would be fair. I put in close to 200 hours into
> the app and I'm assuming that 20 hours to do a decent looking port would[/color]
be[color=blue]
> about right, which gives 10% of the effort. Let me know if I'm off-base
> here.
>
> You will also be responsible for a second line of support for your[/color]
platform.[color=blue]
> In other words you will need to fix problems particular to your platform[/color]
to[color=blue]
> keep your royalty flow. You will not have to talk to customers though.
> That is what I mean by second-line.
>
> If you are interested, please tell me about yourself and point me to some[/color]
of[color=blue]
> your existing work with GUI's.
>[/color]

Mark:

I don't think anyone would complain about your post. You might, however, get
a better response if you create a SourceForge project and add to the "help
wanted" list there. People do scour that list from time to time. You'll also
learn a lot about CVS :-)

Good luck with your project.

regards
--
Steve Holden http://www.holdenweb.com/
Python Web Programming http://pydish.holdenweb.com/pwp/

**Steve Holden** · Jul 18 '05, 02:36 AM

Re: wanted($): mac and linux python gui coders for porting

Oops, you said "shareware" . Guess the SourceForge route wouldn't be for you,
then. Sorry!

regards
--
Steve Holden http://www.holdenweb.com/
Python Web Programming http://pydish.holdenweb.com/pwp/

"Mark Hahn" <mark@hahnca.co m> wrote in message
news:EHr9b.3654 0$n94.18214@fed 1read04...[color=blue]
> (I apologize in advance if this is not an appropriate posting)
>
> I have written a simple windows shareware app, EzPicMailer, in Python 2.3,
> wxPython 2.4.1, and PIL 1.1.4 that lets computer novices find photo[/color]
files,[color=blue]
> edit them, and mail them, all in one simple app. Everyone is encouraged[/color]
to[color=blue]
> check out my beta version at http://EzPicMailer.com.
>
> I wrote it to be cross-platform except for a small amout of windows code[/color]
to[color=blue]
> do the system beep and to find the desktop and home folders.
>
> Now I need a Mac programmer and a Linux programmer to port to these
> environments for me. I'm new to shareware but I'm guessing that paying[/color]
10%[color=blue]
> of gross license receipts would be fair. I put in close to 200 hours into
> the app and I'm assuming that 20 hours to do a decent looking port would[/color]
be[color=blue]
> about right, which gives 10% of the effort. Let me know if I'm off-base
> here.
>
> You will also be responsible for a second line of support for your[/color]
platform.[color=blue]
> In other words you will need to fix problems particular to your platform[/color]
to[color=blue]
> keep your royalty flow. You will not have to talk to customers though.
> That is what I mean by second-line.
>
> If you are interested, please tell me about yourself and point me to some[/color]
of[color=blue]
> your existing work with GUI's.
>
>
>[/color]

**Tim Roberts** · Jul 18 '05, 02:39 AM

Re: wanted($): mac and linux python gui coders for porting

"Mark Hahn" <mark@hahnca.co m> wrote:[color=blue]
>
>I have written a simple windows shareware app, EzPicMailer, in Python 2.3,
>wxPython 2.4.1, and PIL 1.1.4 that lets computer novices find photo files,
>edit them, and mail them, all in one simple app. Everyone is encouraged to
>check out my beta version at http://EzPicMailer.com.
>...
>Now I need a Mac programmer and a Linux programmer to port to these
>environments for me.[/color]

wxPython works identically in all three environments. I'd be surprised if
you had to make more than trivial changes. Plus, if you just released your
source code, others would be happy to make the changes for you, in exchange
for readme credit.
[color=blue]
>I'm new to shareware but I'm guessing that paying 10%
>of gross license receipts would be fair. I put in close to 200 hours into
>the app and I'm assuming that 20 hours to do a decent looking port would be
>about right, which gives 10% of the effort. Let me know if I'm off-base
>here.[/color]

The problem is that 10% of your shareware revenue stream is likely to come
to approximately $1 per month.

Further, the shareware revenue stream from your Linux port is almost
certainly going to be $0 per month. Linux users do not pay for software
tools like this. There's just too much outstanding stuff available for
free.
--
- Tim Roberts, timr@probo.com
Providenza & Boekelheide, Inc.

**Lothar Scholz** · Jul 18 '05, 02:39 AM

Re: wanted($): mac and linux python gui coders for porting

Tim Roberts <timr@probo.com > wrote in message news:<8dsfmvo15 uftg7qvc0oivmsg 6eeeqelvtm@4ax. com>...
[color=blue]
> The problem is that 10% of your shareware revenue stream is likely to come
> to approximately $1 per month.
>
> Further, the shareware revenue stream from your Linux port is almost
> certainly going to be $0 per month. Linux users do not pay for software
> tools like this. There's just too much outstanding stuff available for
> free.[/color]

With his marketing skills it will be $0 even for the windows version.
And with a connection that gives me 2Kb/sec on a fast DSL line even
the download will be 0.

**Mark Hahn** · Jul 18 '05, 02:40 AM

Re: wanted($): mac and linux python gui coders for porting

>With his marketing skills

Whose skills are you reffering to?

"Lothar Scholz" <llothar@web.de > wrote in message
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> Tim Roberts <timr@probo.com > wrote in message[/color]
news:<8dsfmvo15 uftg7qvc0oivmsg 6eeeqelvtm@4ax. com>...[color=blue]
>[color=green]
> > The problem is that 10% of your shareware revenue stream is likely to[/color][/color]
come[color=blue][color=green]
> > to approximately $1 per month.
> >
> > Further, the shareware revenue stream from your Linux port is almost
> > certainly going to be $0 per month. Linux users do not pay for software
> > tools like this. There's just too much outstanding stuff available for
> > free.[/color]
>
> With his marketing skills it will be $0 even for the windows version.
> And with a connection that gives me 2Kb/sec on a fast DSL line even
> the download will be 0.[/color]

**Lothar Scholz** · Jul 18 '05, 02:41 AM

Re: wanted($): mac and linux python gui coders for porting

"Mark Hahn" <mark@hahnca.co m> wrote in message news:<U3%9b.396 16$n94.30901@fe d1read04>...[color=blue][color=green]
> >With his marketing skills[/color]
>
> Whose skills are you reffering to?[/color]

Yours. Maybe a website is on the way, instead of the current simple
page.

By the way: The program throws an exception when i want to add a
picture.

Traceback (most recent call last):
File "<string>", line 378, in OnMouseDown
File "<string>", line 695, in OnAddPhoto
File "C:\Installer\E zPicMailer\buil dEzPicMailer\ou t1.pyz/photochooser_di alog",
line 434, in choose_photo
File "C:\Installer\E zPicMailer\buil dEzPicMailer\ou t1.pyz/photochooser_di alog",
line 392, in __init__
File "C:\Installer\E zPicMailer\buil dEzPicMailer\ou t1.pyz/photochooser_di alog",
line 288, in set_path
File "C:\Installer\E zPicMailer\buil dEzPicMailer\ou t1.pyz/photochooser_di alog",
line 208, in PaintNow
File "C:\Installer\E zPicMailer\buil dEzPicMailer\ou t1.pyz/photochooser_di alog",
line 222, in paint
File "C:\Installer\E zPicMailer\buil dEzPicMailer\ou t1.pyz/photochooser_di alog",
line 137, in get_bitmap_bigp ath
File "<string>", line 522, in save_datastore
IOError: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'data/app_datastore.p kl'

**Mark Hahn** · Jul 18 '05, 02:41 AM

Re: wanted($): mac and linux python gui coders for porting

I'm not going to be marketing it. Discussions are under way with several
"re-distributors" who would do the actual marketing. Apparently there is
money to be made in the $10 "throw-away-money" market. Anyway, I just write
it, I don't care who buys it or why. In any case, my understanding is that
the intended market is friends and relatives of computer-savvy people, not
the computer-savvy people themselves. You may have a big dsl pipe but I'll
bet your parents don't.

As to whether linux people would use it, that's beyond my understanding.
Are there non-computer-savvy people using linux who had their pc set up by
others, who could benefit from gut-simple software? I know there are
non-gurus using macs. I gave my mom a mac and she is really challenged by
AOL. This app would be great for her.

As to your problem: What version are you using? I've been fixing bugs like
crazy the last few days. I think it is settling down now. Try the latest
version. If you still have problems let me know.

P.S. If you don't mind, extend the testing all the way to using PayPal. I
promise that I'm reversing all charges at the end of beta testing. (I know
that may sound suspicious, but I really am honest :)

"Lothar Scholz" <llothar@web.de > wrote in message
news:6ee58e07.0 309171554.57e4a 44@posting.goog le.com...[color=blue]
> "Mark Hahn" <mark@hahnca.co m> wrote in message[/color]
news:<U3%9b.396 16$n94.30901@fe d1read04>...[color=blue][color=green][color=darkred]
> > >With his marketing skills[/color]
> >
> > Whose skills are you reffering to?[/color]
>
> Yours. Maybe a website is on the way, instead of the current simple
> page.
>
>
> By the way: The program throws an exception when i want to add a
> picture.
>
> Traceback (most recent call last):
> File "<string>", line 378, in OnMouseDown
> File "<string>", line 695, in OnAddPhoto
> File[/color]
"C:\Installer\E zPicMailer\buil dEzPicMailer\ou t1.pyz/photochooser_di alog",[color=blue]
> line 434, in choose_photo
> File[/color]
"C:\Installer\E zPicMailer\buil dEzPicMailer\ou t1.pyz/photochooser_di alog",[color=blue]
> line 392, in __init__
> File[/color]
"C:\Installer\E zPicMailer\buil dEzPicMailer\ou t1.pyz/photochooser_di alog",[color=blue]
> line 288, in set_path
> File[/color]
"C:\Installer\E zPicMailer\buil dEzPicMailer\ou t1.pyz/photochooser_di alog",[color=blue]
> line 208, in PaintNow
> File[/color]
"C:\Installer\E zPicMailer\buil dEzPicMailer\ou t1.pyz/photochooser_di alog",[color=blue]
> line 222, in paint
> File[/color]
"C:\Installer\E zPicMailer\buil dEzPicMailer\ou t1.pyz/photochooser_di alog",[color=blue]
> line 137, in get_bitmap_bigp ath
> File "<string>", line 522, in save_datastore
> IOError: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'data/app_datastore.p kl'[/color]

wanted($): mac and linux python gui coders for porting

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