how fast is Python?

[Juha Autero]

Re: Counsel bears (OT, Re: how fast is Python?)

graham__fawcett @hotmail.com (Graham Fawcett) writes:
[color=blue]
> If we each had at least /one/ wise counsel bear, then c.l.py would
> certainly reap the benefits of our enhanced posts![/color]

That reminds me of a story I probably read from The Practice of
Programming by Brian W. Kernighan and Rob Pike. In some university
(I've forgotten the name) students doing programming exercises had to
explain their problem to a teddy bear before they could talk to course
staff. This was because often just explaining the problem helped you
to understand the problem and then you could fix it.

--
Juha Autero

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Eschew obscurity!

[Marc Wilson]

Re: Counsel bears (OT, Re: how fast is Python?)

In comp.lang.pytho n, Juha Autero <Juha.Autero@ik i.fi> (Juha Autero) wrote
in <mailman.106224 0014.19619.pyth on-list@python.org >::

|graham__fawcet t@hotmail.com (Graham Fawcett) writes:
|
|> If we each had at least /one/ wise counsel bear, then c.l.py would
|> certainly reap the benefits of our enhanced posts!
|
|That reminds me of a story I probably read from The Practice of
|Programming by Brian W. Kernighan and Rob Pike. In some university
|(I've forgotten the name) students doing programming exercises had to
|explain their problem to a teddy bear before they could talk to course
|staff. This was because often just explaining the problem helped you
|to understand the problem and then you could fix it.

The term I coined for this is "echo debugging". :)
--
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[Peter Hansen]

Re: Counsel bears (OT, Re: how fast is Python?)

Marc Wilson wrote:[color=blue]
>
> In comp.lang.pytho n, Juha Autero <Juha.Autero@ik i.fi> (Juha Autero) wrote
> in <mailman.106224 0014.19619.pyth on-list@python.org >::
>
> |graham__fawcet t@hotmail.com (Graham Fawcett) writes:
> |
> |> If we each had at least /one/ wise counsel bear, then c.l.py would
> |> certainly reap the benefits of our enhanced posts!
> |
> |That reminds me of a story I probably read from The Practice of
> |Programming by Brian W. Kernighan and Rob Pike. In some university
> |(I've forgotten the name) students doing programming exercises had to
> |explain their problem to a teddy bear before they could talk to course
> |staff. This was because often just explaining the problem helped you
> |to understand the problem and then you could fix it.
>
> The term I coined for this is "echo debugging". :)[/color]

I once spent about two hours in a debugging session with a friend.
We were away from the computer, discussing the problem, with a
whiteboard, diagrams, lots of talking.... after we found the
solution I said something about wow, that's great, we solved it.

My friend said, "Peter... _I_ didn't even say anything!". :-)

-Peter