Extend Python

[Tommy.Ryding@gmail.com]

Hi All I have a problem with extentions of Python.

Background:
I'm workin within a large industrial control system and I have created
a Port for VxWorks. In the system we have different permissions
depending on which state the controller is in. To perform some actions
in some states may even injure or kill people. Therefor we need
"intelligen t" wrappers between Python and C-code.

My Question:
Swig offers some great features but is to basic for us. Is there
another program that creates more readble code that can be easily
edited? How much work is it to write our own wrappers?

//T

[tooper]

Re: Extend Python

PyQT is using SIP to wrap Qt : looks nice and works great for PyQt
which is a quite big wrapping. Never had the occation to use it myself
however, except for this.

[Tommy.Ryding@gmail.com]

Re: Extend Python

What is Qt?

I have looked at PyQT and I can´t use it. I haven't tried it but the
PyQT license makes the program useless. :(

Any other suggestions?

[Ravi Teja]

Re: Extend Python

SIP is not a commercial product and is released on a different license
than PyQt.
[color=blue]
>From the SIP docs[/color]
(http://www.river-bank.demon.co.uk/do...f.html#license)
1.1 License
SIP is licensed under the same terms as Python itself. SIP places no
restrictions on the license you may apply to the bindings you create.

On a side note.. there will be a GPL edition of PyQt sometime in the
future.

http://www.riverbankcomputing.co.uk/pyqt/roadmap.php

[Jake Gittes]

Re: Extend Python

Try looking at ctypes -

http://starship.python.net/crew/theller/ctypes/

On 1 Sep 2005 05:12:21 -0700, Tommy.Ryding@gm ail.com wrote:
[color=blue]
>Hi All I have a problem with extentions of Python.
>
>Background:
>I'm workin within a large industrial control system and I have created
>a Port for VxWorks. In the system we have different permissions
>depending on which state the controller is in. To perform some actions
>in some states may even injure or kill people. Therefor we need
>"intelligent " wrappers between Python and C-code.
>
>My Question:
>Swig offers some great features but is to basic for us. Is there
>another program that creates more readble code that can be easily
>edited? How much work is it to write our own wrappers?
>
>//T[/color]

[Filip Dreger]

Re: Extend Python

> My Question:[color=blue]
> Swig offers some great features but is to basic for us. Is there
> another program that creates more readble code that can be easily
> edited? How much work is it to write our own wrappers?[/color]

Not too much, and practicaly not at all if you want to wrap procedures
(not objects or types):
- marshaslling an argument list from Python to C and from C to Python
takes exactly 1 line of code,
- handling errors takes 2 lines of code (unless you want to do
something fancy with them; I mean just catching an exception and
getting the error message).
- entry in the PyMethodDef is one simple line
Bottomline: you need 5 additional lines of C code per procedure to
make it usable from Python.
Unless you have hundreds of procedures, there is no point in using
special tools to do that. Especially if you need full control over the
results.

regards,
Filip Dreger
--
Akademia Linuksa - http://www.akademia.linuksa.pl

[Jorgen Grahn]

Re: Extend Python

On Thu, 1 Sep 2005 19:09:55 +0200, Filip Dreger <fdreger@amiga. pl> wrote:[color=blue][color=green]
>> My Question:
>> Swig offers some great features but is to basic for us. Is there
>> another program that creates more readble code that can be easily
>> edited? How much work is it to write our own wrappers?[/color]
>
> Not too much, and practicaly not at all if you want to wrap procedures
> (not objects or types):
> - marshaslling an argument list from Python to C and from C to Python
> takes exactly 1 line of code,
> - handling errors takes 2 lines of code (unless you want to do
> something fancy with them; I mean just catching an exception and
> getting the error message).
> - entry in the PyMethodDef is one simple line
> Bottomline: you need 5 additional lines of C code per procedure to
> make it usable from Python.
> Unless you have hundreds of procedures, there is no point in using
> special tools to do that. Especially if you need full control over the
> results.[/color]

My experience too. At least if you are a C programmer.

If it gets hard, it's because the things you wrap do something funky: take
complex memory structures as arguments, have odd resource management, etc.
A tool cannot help you with that anyway.

/Jorgen

--
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\X/ algonet.se> R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn!

[Tommy.Ryding@gmail.com]

Re: Extend Python

Thanx for all the answers.

I will write it myself I have done the simple part, wrapping some
functions. Didn't even take 15 minutes so it was really simple.

But I still have to solve the tricky parts. Wrap some complex
structures and pointers so I can use them from Python.