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  • Joshua D. Drake

    PostgreSQL versus MySQL

    Hello,

    I think the below just about says it all:



    Sincerely,

    Joshua Drake


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  • Mike Mascari

    #2
    Re: PostgreSQL versus MySQL

    Joshua D. Drake wrote:
    [color=blue]
    > Hello,
    >
    > I think the below just about says it all:
    >
    > http://www.commandprompt.com/images/...olphin_500.jpg
    >
    > Sincerely,
    >
    > Joshua Drake[/color]

    Too bad the symbol of Oracle Corp. isn't a peanut...

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    • Sean Chittenden

      #3
      Re: PostgreSQL versus MySQL

      > I think the below just about says it all:[color=blue]
      >
      > http://www.commandprompt.com/images/...olphin_500.jpg[/color]

      Hey Josh, what about some t-shirts with this on the back and some
      snappy verbiage above/below the image? Just a thought, but maybe
      that's something the advocacy team could run with depending on who
      owns the copyright to the image. -sc

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      • Andrew L. Gould

        #4
        Re: PostgreSQL versus MySQL

        On Thursday 18 September 2003 04:04 pm, Sean Chittenden wrote:[color=blue][color=green]
        > > I think the below just about says it all:
        > >
        > > http://www.commandprompt.com/images/...olphin_500.jpg[/color]
        >
        > Hey Josh, what about some t-shirts with this on the back and some
        > snappy verbiage above/below the image? Just a thought, but maybe
        > that's something the advocacy team could run with depending on who
        > owns the copyright to the image. -sc[/color]

        If the dolphin were in a different setting, one could wonder if it got caught
        in a .net

        ;-)

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        • scott.marlowe

          #5
          Re: PostgreSQL versus MySQL

          On Thu, 18 Sep 2003, Joshua D. Drake wrote:
          [color=blue]
          > Hello,
          >
          > I think the below just about says it all:
          >
          > http://www.commandprompt.com/images/...olphin_500.jpg[/color]

          Oh. My. God. That is just so wrong.

          But I want a TShirt with that on it so bad... :-)


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          • scott.marlowe

            #6
            Re: PostgreSQL versus MySQL

            On Thu, 18 Sep 2003, Joshua D. Drake wrote:
            [color=blue]
            > Hello,
            >
            > I think the below just about says it all:
            >
            > http://www.commandprompt.com/images/...olphin_500.jpg[/color]

            Is that available in a higher res version, I'd really like it as a
            background on my 1600x1200 desktop.


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            • Scott Holmes

              #7
              Re: PostgreSQL versus MySQL



              Andrew L. Gould wrote:[color=blue]
              > On Thursday 18 September 2003 04:04 pm, Sean Chittenden wrote:
              >[color=green][color=darkred]
              >>> I think the below just about says it all:
              >>>
              >>>http://www.commandprompt.com/images/...olphin_500.jpg[/color]
              >>[/color][/color]

              Not exactly the kind of image I'd like to project, especially since I
              care about dolphins (at least non-iconified dolphins)

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              • Joshua D. Drake

                #8
                Re: PostgreSQL versus MySQL

                Hello,

                We own the copyright. I would not be opposed to putting it on a shirt.

                J


                Sean Chittenden wrote:
                [color=blue][color=green]
                >> I think the below just about says it all:
                >>
                >>http://www.commandprompt.com/images/...olphin_500.jpg
                >>
                >>[/color]
                >
                >Hey Josh, what about some t-shirts with this on the back and some
                >snappy verbiage above/below the image? Just a thought, but maybe
                >that's something the advocacy team could run with depending on who
                >owns the copyright to the image. -sc
                >
                >
                >[/color]

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                • Dennis Gearon

                  #9
                  Re: PostgreSQL versus MySQL

                  I think in the interest of good neighborliness that something be put in
                  the image like the elephant winking, and/or, the dolphin saying, "we
                  sure have fun playing together", or a overlaid byline like, "Another
                  open source domination theme debunked", or whatever.

                  Just my $0.02 and 0.56 rubles.

                  Joshua D. Drake wrote:
                  [color=blue]
                  > Hello,
                  >
                  > We own the copyright. I would not be opposed to putting it on a shirt.
                  >
                  > J
                  >
                  >
                  > Sean Chittenden wrote:
                  >[color=green][color=darkred]
                  >>> I think the below just about says it all:
                  >>>
                  >>> http://www.commandprompt.com/images/...olphin_500.jpg
                  >>>[/color]
                  >>
                  >>
                  >> Hey Josh, what about some t-shirts with this on the back and some
                  >> snappy verbiage above/below the image? Just a thought, but maybe
                  >> that's something the advocacy team could run with depending on who
                  >> owns the copyright to the image. -sc
                  >>
                  >>
                  >>[/color]
                  >[/color]


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                  • Steve Crawford

                    #10
                    Re: PostgreSQL versus MySQL

                    On Thursday 18 September 2003 2:45 pm, Scott Holmes wrote:[color=blue]
                    > Andrew L. Gould wrote:[color=green]
                    > > On Thursday 18 September 2003 04:04 pm, Sean Chittenden wrote:[color=darkred]
                    > >>> I think the below just about says it all:
                    > >>>
                    > >>>http://www.commandprompt.com/images/..._dolphin_500.j
                    > >>>pg[/color][/color]
                    >
                    > Not exactly the kind of image I'd like to project, especially since
                    > I care about dolphins (at least non-iconified dolphins)[/color]

                    More to the point, why is it deemed necessary to equate PostgreSQL
                    with MySQL? Constantly doing that creates the image that the two are
                    somehow comparable products (and that PostgreSQL has an inferiority
                    complex).

                    BMW might compare its cars to Mercedes or other cars percieved to be
                    in the "luxury class" but it would never compare them to Ford or
                    Hyundai - to do so would create the impression that BMW and Hyundai
                    are in the same class. PostgreSQL should do the same.

                    I think the much more effective pitch is the dismissive one: sure, you
                    can get a lot done with MySQL - it will probably work fine for many
                    projects...Oh, but what about true transactions - are you ever going
                    to need those? Or bulletproof reliability? Or true MVCC? Have you
                    looked into the license restrictions? We just wanted you to know that
                    when you run into these issues in MySQL, we'll be here for you.

                    Meanwhile, if we want to pick a fight we should at least pick one with
                    a database in our own class.

                    Cheers,
                    Steve


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                    • Joshua D. Drake

                      #11
                      Re: PostgreSQL versus MySQL [TShirts]

                      Hello,

                      O.k. boys here ya go:



                      Sincerely,

                      Joshua Drake


                      scott.marlowe wrote:
                      [color=blue]
                      >On Thu, 18 Sep 2003, Joshua D. Drake wrote:
                      >
                      >
                      >[color=green]
                      >>Hello,
                      >>
                      >> I think the below just about says it all:
                      >>
                      >>http://www.commandprompt.com/images/...olphin_500.jpg
                      >>
                      >>[/color]
                      >
                      >Is that available in a higher res version, I'd really like it as a
                      >background on my 1600x1200 desktop.
                      >
                      >
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                      >[/color]

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                      • Dennis Gearon

                        #12
                        Re: PostgreSQL versus MySQL

                        LOL, good points!

                        OTOH, until we fix some of the problems we have been talking about in
                        the last week, we are kind of BETWEEN mysql and other databases.

                        Postgres is far better than Mysql, though, not a near cousin.

                        Steve Crawford wrote:
                        [color=blue]
                        >On Thursday 18 September 2003 2:45 pm, Scott Holmes wrote:
                        >
                        >[color=green]
                        >>Andrew L. Gould wrote:
                        >>
                        >>[color=darkred]
                        >>>On Thursday 18 September 2003 04:04 pm, Sean Chittenden wrote:
                        >>>
                        >>>
                        >>>>> I think the below just about says it all:
                        >>>>>
                        >>>>>http://www.commandprompt.com/images/..._dolphin_500.j
                        >>>>>pg
                        >>>>>
                        >>>>>[/color]
                        >>Not exactly the kind of image I'd like to project, especially since
                        >>I care about dolphins (at least non-iconified dolphins)
                        >>
                        >>[/color]
                        >
                        >More to the point, why is it deemed necessary to equate PostgreSQL
                        >with MySQL? Constantly doing that creates the image that the two are
                        >somehow comparable products (and that PostgreSQL has an inferiority
                        >complex).
                        >
                        >BMW might compare its cars to Mercedes or other cars percieved to be
                        >in the "luxury class" but it would never compare them to Ford or
                        >Hyundai - to do so would create the impression that BMW and Hyundai
                        >are in the same class. PostgreSQL should do the same.
                        >
                        >I think the much more effective pitch is the dismissive one: sure, you
                        >can get a lot done with MySQL - it will probably work fine for many
                        >projects...O h, but what about true transactions - are you ever going
                        >to need those? Or bulletproof reliability? Or true MVCC? Have you
                        >looked into the license restrictions? We just wanted you to know that
                        >when you run into these issues in MySQL, we'll be here for you.
                        >
                        >Meanwhile, if we want to pick a fight we should at least pick one with
                        >a database in our own class.
                        >
                        >Cheers,
                        >Steve
                        >
                        >
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                        • Joshua D. Drake

                          #13
                          Re: PostgreSQL versus MySQL

                          Hello,

                          I would agree with you from a technical perspective but the reality is
                          the most used Open Source
                          databases are MySQL and PostgreSQL so there is a logical comparison.

                          Sincerley,

                          Joshua Drake


                          Steve Crawford wrote:
                          [color=blue]
                          >On Thursday 18 September 2003 2:45 pm, Scott Holmes wrote:
                          >
                          >[color=green]
                          >>Andrew L. Gould wrote:
                          >>
                          >>[color=darkred]
                          >>>On Thursday 18 September 2003 04:04 pm, Sean Chittenden wrote:
                          >>>
                          >>>
                          >>>>> I think the below just about says it all:
                          >>>>>
                          >>>>>http://www.commandprompt.com/images/..._dolphin_500.j
                          >>>>>pg
                          >>>>>
                          >>>>>[/color]
                          >>Not exactly the kind of image I'd like to project, especially since
                          >>I care about dolphins (at least non-iconified dolphins)
                          >>
                          >>[/color]
                          >
                          >More to the point, why is it deemed necessary to equate PostgreSQL
                          >with MySQL? Constantly doing that creates the image that the two are
                          >somehow comparable products (and that PostgreSQL has an inferiority
                          >complex).
                          >
                          >BMW might compare its cars to Mercedes or other cars percieved to be
                          >in the "luxury class" but it would never compare them to Ford or
                          >Hyundai - to do so would create the impression that BMW and Hyundai
                          >are in the same class. PostgreSQL should do the same.
                          >
                          >I think the much more effective pitch is the dismissive one: sure, you
                          >can get a lot done with MySQL - it will probably work fine for many
                          >projects...O h, but what about true transactions - are you ever going
                          >to need those? Or bulletproof reliability? Or true MVCC? Have you
                          >looked into the license restrictions? We just wanted you to know that
                          >when you run into these issues in MySQL, we'll be here for you.
                          >
                          >Meanwhile, if we want to pick a fight we should at least pick one with
                          >a database in our own class.
                          >
                          >Cheers,
                          >Steve
                          >
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                          >[/color]

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                          • Joshua D. Drake

                            #14
                            Re: PostgreSQL versus MySQL

                            Hello,

                            MySQL has over 15 million dollars in capital. We have comics.

                            Sincerely,

                            Joshua Drake


                            Dennis Gearon wrote:
                            [color=blue]
                            > I think in the interest of good neighborliness that something be put
                            > in the image like the elephant winking, and/or, the dolphin saying,
                            > "we sure have fun playing together", or a overlaid byline like,
                            > "Another open source domination theme debunked", or whatever.
                            >
                            > Just my $0.02 and 0.56 rubles.
                            >
                            > Joshua D. Drake wrote:
                            >[color=green]
                            >> Hello,
                            >>
                            >> We own the copyright. I would not be opposed to putting it on a shirt.
                            >>
                            >> J
                            >>
                            >>
                            >> Sean Chittenden wrote:
                            >>[color=darkred]
                            >>>> I think the below just about says it all:
                            >>>>
                            >>>> http://www.commandprompt.com/images/...olphin_500.jpg
                            >>>>
                            >>>
                            >>>
                            >>>
                            >>> Hey Josh, what about some t-shirts with this on the back and some
                            >>> snappy verbiage above/below the image? Just a thought, but maybe
                            >>> that's something the advocacy team could run with depending on who
                            >>> owns the copyright to the image. -sc
                            >>>
                            >>>
                            >>>[/color]
                            >>[/color]
                            >
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                            • Christopher Browne

                              #15
                              Re: PostgreSQL versus MySQL

                              sean@chittenden .org (Sean Chittenden) writes:[color=blue][color=green]
                              >> I think the below just about says it all:
                              >>
                              >> http://www.commandprompt.com/images/...olphin_500.jpg[/color]
                              >
                              > Hey Josh, what about some t-shirts with this on the back and some
                              > snappy verbiage above/below the image? Just a thought, but maybe
                              > that's something the advocacy team could run with depending on who
                              > owns the copyright to the image. -sc[/color]

                              I'm not sure this presents quite the right message.

                              A coworker made the snide remark that anyone that doesn't totally "get
                              it" is likely to really wonder about the notion of roasting a dolphin
                              over a spit.

                              Roasting dolphins over the fire isn't exactly politically correct, and
                              the only people that could "get it" as being funny are those that are
                              in the advocacy group.

                              And I thought that MySQL _wasn't_ the real competition, and that the
                              PostgreSQL community had higher standards and such...

                              (Note, I say this all as one of the politically-incorrect people that
                              find jokes involving furry creatures being blown up to be outrageously
                              funny at some weird visceral level.)
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