types of constraint deferment

[Ron Johnson]

Hi,

v7.3.3

http://www.postgresql.org/docs/7.3/static/sql-createtable.html

Is "INITIALLY DEFERRED" a modifier of "NOT DEFERRABLE"? If so,
what does it do, since they seem contradictory.

Thanks
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[Stephan Szabo]

Re: types of constraint deferment


On 11 Aug 2003, Ron Johnson wrote:
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> v7.3.3
> http://www.postgresql.org/docs/7.3/s...eatetable.html
>
> Is "INITIALLY DEFERRED" a modifier of "NOT DEFERRABLE"? If so,
> what does it do, since they seem contradictory.[/color]

It's not allowed. An INITIALLY DEFERRED constraint must not
be defined as NOT DEFERRABLE, although an INITIALLY DEFERRED
constraint that doesn't specify either is considered DEFERRABLE.
The docs refered to are weak on this, care to try a rewrite of
those parts? :)


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[Dennis Gearon]

Re: types of constraint deferment

I don't believe they work together.

Ron Johnson wrote:
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> Hi,
>
> v7.3.3
> http://www.postgresql.org/docs/7.3/s...eatetable.html
>
> Is "INITIALLY DEFERRED" a modifier of "NOT DEFERRABLE"? If so,
> what does it do, since they seem contradictory.
>
> Thanks[/color]


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[Ron Johnson]

Re: types of constraint deferment

On Tue, 2003-08-12 at 00:38, Stephan Szabo wrote:[color=blue]
> On 11 Aug 2003, Ron Johnson wrote:
>[color=green]
> > v7.3.3
> > http://www.postgresql.org/docs/7.3/s...eatetable.html
> >
> > Is "INITIALLY DEFERRED" a modifier of "NOT DEFERRABLE"? If so,
> > what does it do, since they seem contradictory.[/color]
>
> It's not allowed. An INITIALLY DEFERRED constraint must not
> be defined as NOT DEFERRABLE, although an INITIALLY DEFERRED
> constraint that doesn't specify either is considered DEFERRABLE.
> The docs refered to are weak on this, care to try a rewrite of
> those parts? :)[/color]

Sure, after I know what the rules are!!!!!

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[Stephan Szabo]

Re: types of constraint deferment


On 12 Aug 2003, Ron Johnson wrote:
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> On Tue, 2003-08-12 at 00:38, Stephan Szabo wrote:[color=green]
> > On 11 Aug 2003, Ron Johnson wrote:
> >[color=darkred]
> > > v7.3.3
> > > http://www.postgresql.org/docs/7.3/s...eatetable.html
> > >
> > > Is "INITIALLY DEFERRED" a modifier of "NOT DEFERRABLE"? If so,
> > > what does it do, since they seem contradictory.[/color]
> >
> > It's not allowed. An INITIALLY DEFERRED constraint must not
> > be defined as NOT DEFERRABLE, although an INITIALLY DEFERRED
> > constraint that doesn't specify either is considered DEFERRABLE.
> > The docs refered to are weak on this, care to try a rewrite of
> > those parts? :)[/color]
>
> Sure, after I know what the rules are!!!!![/color]

Basically, you can specify one of the following states on the constraint
(unless I'm missing something)

Neither a check time nor a deferrability, in which case you get
NOT DEFERRABLE INITIALLY IMMEDIATE
No check time and NOT DEFERRABLE, in which case you get
NOT DEFERRABLE INITIALLY IMMEDIATE
No check time and DEFERRABLE, in which case you get
DEFERRABLE INITIALLY IMMEDIATE
A check time of INITIALLY IMMEDIATE and no deferrability, in which case
you get NOT DEFERRABLE INITIALLY IMMEDIATE
A check time of INITIALLY DEFERRED and no deferrability, in which case
you get DEFERRABLE INITIALLY DEFERRED
A check time of INITIALLY IMMEDIATE and NOT DEFERRABLE, in which case
you get NOT DEFERRABLE INITIALLY IMMEDIATE
A check time of INITIALLY IMMEDIATE and DEFERRABLE, in which case
you get DEFERRABLE INITIALLY IMMEDIATE
A check time of INITIALLY DEFERRED and DEFERRABLE, in which case
you get DEFERRABLE INITIALLY DEFERRED
A check time of INITIALLY DEFERRED and NOT DEFERRABLE is an error
condition.



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[Dennis Gearon]

Re: types of constraint deferment

Boy, that'd be nice to have in the manual!

Stephan Szabo wrote:
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> On 12 Aug 2003, Ron Johnson wrote:
>
>[color=green]
>>On Tue, 2003-08-12 at 00:38, Stephan Szabo wrote:
>>[color=darkred]
>>>On 11 Aug 2003, Ron Johnson wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>v7.3.3
>>>>http://www.postgresql.org/docs/7.3/s...eatetable.html
>>>>
>>>>Is "INITIALLY DEFERRED" a modifier of "NOT DEFERRABLE"? If so,
>>>>what does it do, since they seem contradictory.
>>>
>>>It's not allowed. An INITIALLY DEFERRED constraint must not
>>>be defined as NOT DEFERRABLE, although an INITIALLY DEFERRED
>>>constraint that doesn't specify either is considered DEFERRABLE.
>>>The docs refered to are weak on this, care to try a rewrite of
>>>those parts? :)[/color]
>>
>>Sure, after I know what the rules are!!!!![/color]
>
>
> Basically, you can specify one of the following states on the constraint
> (unless I'm missing something)
>
> Neither a check time nor a deferrability, in which case you get
> NOT DEFERRABLE INITIALLY IMMEDIATE
> No check time and NOT DEFERRABLE, in which case you get
> NOT DEFERRABLE INITIALLY IMMEDIATE
> No check time and DEFERRABLE, in which case you get
> DEFERRABLE INITIALLY IMMEDIATE
> A check time of INITIALLY IMMEDIATE and no deferrability, in which case
> you get NOT DEFERRABLE INITIALLY IMMEDIATE
> A check time of INITIALLY DEFERRED and no deferrability, in which case
> you get DEFERRABLE INITIALLY DEFERRED
> A check time of INITIALLY IMMEDIATE and NOT DEFERRABLE, in which case
> you get NOT DEFERRABLE INITIALLY IMMEDIATE
> A check time of INITIALLY IMMEDIATE and DEFERRABLE, in which case
> you get DEFERRABLE INITIALLY IMMEDIATE
> A check time of INITIALLY DEFERRED and DEFERRABLE, in which case
> you get DEFERRABLE INITIALLY DEFERRED
> A check time of INITIALLY DEFERRED and NOT DEFERRABLE is an error
> condition.
>
>
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