Tut needed on PHP + OOP

[Animesh K]

Hello All:

Is there a good tutorial/article on the web for Object oriented
programming with PHP in the context of HTML (or XHTML)?

I have looked around on Google, but perhaps with wrong keywords.

Best regards,
Animesh

[NC]

Re: Tut needed on PHP + OOP

On Sep 3, 1:22 pm, Animesh K <animesh1...@gm ail.comwrote:

>
Is there a good tutorial/article on the web for Object oriented
programming with PHP in the context of HTML (or XHTML)?

Have you tried the obvious:

http://php.net/OOP (OOP in PHP 4)
http://php.net/OOP5 (OOP in PHP 5)

As to the "OOP in the context of HTML", you probably need to read up
on DOM (Document Object Model) and its implementations in PHP:

http://php.net/DOMXML (PHP 4)
http://php.net/DOM (PHP 5)

Cheers,
NC

[Animesh K]

Re: Tut needed on PHP + OOP

NC wrote:

On Sep 3, 1:22 pm, Animesh K <animesh1...@gm ail.comwrote:

>Is there a good tutorial/article on the web for Object oriented
>programming with PHP in the context of HTML (or XHTML)?

>
Have you tried the obvious:
>
http://php.net/OOP (OOP in PHP 4)
http://php.net/OOP5 (OOP in PHP 5)
>
As to the "OOP in the context of HTML", you probably need to read up
on DOM (Document Object Model) and its implementations in PHP:
>
http://php.net/DOMXML (PHP 4)
http://php.net/DOM (PHP 5)
>

Actually I did look at php.net; I was looking at some constructive
example rather than principles and isolated examples of OOP. For
example, an explanation of creating a blog with PHP + OOP.

I can try to decipher some frameworks like Wordpress or Cake, but that
will be cumbersome to understand.

Thanks,
Animesh

[NC]

Re: Tut needed on PHP + OOP

On Sep 4, 11:36 am, Animesh K <animesh1...@gm ail.comwrote:

>
Actually I did look at php.net; I was looking at some constructive
example rather than principles and isolated examples of OOP. For
example, an explanation of creating a blog with PHP + OOP.
>
I can try to decipher some frameworks like Wordpress or Cake,

If memory serves, Cake actually has a tutorial that describes creating
a simple blog... WordPress, meanwhile, gets by with very little OOP;
it does use some OOP internally, but its extension mechanism (hooks
and filters) is purely procedural. Incidentally, so is Drupal's...

Cheers,
NC

[Animesh K]

Re: Tut needed on PHP + OOP

NC wrote:

On Sep 4, 11:36 am, Animesh K <animesh1...@gm ail.comwrote:

>Actually I did look at php.net; I was looking at some constructive
>example rather than principles and isolated examples of OOP. For
>example, an explanation of creating a blog with PHP + OOP.
>>
>I can try to decipher some frameworks like Wordpress or Cake,

>
If memory serves, Cake actually has a tutorial that describes creating
a simple blog... WordPress, meanwhile, gets by with very little OOP;
it does use some OOP internally, but its extension mechanism (hooks
and filters) is purely procedural. Incidentally, so is Drupal's...
>

You are right that CakePHP has a tutorial to get a working blog. But it
does not serves as an example to understand "how to construct an OOP
framework in PHP for html output."

That's the goal I have in mind.

Thanks,
Animesh

Cheers,
NC

[Animesh K]

Re: Tut needed on PHP + OOP

Jensen Somers wrote:

Animesh K wrote:

>NC wrote:

>>On Sep 4, 11:36 am, Animesh K <animesh1...@gm ail.comwrote:
>>>Actually I did look at php.net; I was looking at some constructive
>>>example rather than principles and isolated examples of OOP. For
>>>example, an explanation of creating a blog with PHP + OOP.
>>>>
>>>I can try to decipher some frameworks like Wordpress or Cake,
>>If memory serves, Cake actually has a tutorial that describes creating
>>a simple blog... WordPress, meanwhile, gets by with very little OOP;
>>it does use some OOP internally, but its extension mechanism (hooks
>>and filters) is purely procedural. Incidentally, so is Drupal's...
>>>

>>
>You are right that CakePHP has a tutorial to get a working blog. But it
>does not serves as an example to understand "how to construct an OOP
>framework in PHP for html output."
>>
>That's the goal I have in mind.
>>
>Thanks,
>Animesh
>>
>>

>>Cheers,
>>NC

>
Chances of finding such a tutorial or book are highly unlikely. You will
need to learn the individual parts and combine them into one solid piece.
>
A few books I can recommend are "Advanced PHP Programming (Sams
Publishing)" and "Profession al PHP5 (Wrox)"
>
On a side note: Why do you want to construct an OOP framework from the
ground up? It's a lot of work on your own, it's hard to maintain and
write new features at the same time. Like so many others I made an
attempt to write one a few years ago but I realized in time that it was
just too big and I should redirect myself towards using and contributing
to an existing framework. CakePHP, Symphoni, even Drupal and Joomla
(allthough not fully PHP5 OOP) have a very large community behind them
which take care of 1001 tasks ranging from security issues, new features
and support.
>

Thanks Jensen. May be my approach is wrong, but I want to build a _small
one_ to understand the issues in making such a framework. I would love
to contribute to cakePhp or symphony (provided I reach any level of
expertise).

Right now, even naming conditions are a mystery. Thanks for the names of
pertinent books.

Best,
Animesh