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  • deshix

    #1

    Real begginer

    Hi everyone, can you recommend me the best way to learn the PHP? I'm
    really begginer...
  • PaulB

    #2
    Re: Real begginer

    deshix wrote:
    Hi everyone, can you recommend me the best way to learn the PHP? I'm
    really begginer...
    You must be. You can't even spell beginner! :-)



    Paul


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    • Luuk

      #3
      Re: Real begginer

      deshix schreef:
      Hi everyone, can you recommend me the best way to learn the PHP? I'm
      really begginer...
      start reading at www.php.net

      try something, and if it does not work, post what you have so far, and
      explain what you where trying to do

      someone may help you in the right direction, some others will just give
      the (in their eyes) correct answer...

      but anyway reading here will help you a lot if you read more than you
      own postings ;-)

      --
      Luuk

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      • deshix

        #4
        Re: Real begginer

        On 11 Mar, 14:54, "PaulB" <pb...@ntlworld .comwrote:
        You must be. You can't even spell beginner! :-)
        >

        >
        Paul

        You know, shaking hands :D

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        • mrcakey

          #5
          Re: Real begginer

          "Luuk" <Luuk@invalid.l anwrote in message
          news:gufia5-1km.ln1@a62-251-88-195.adsl.xs4all .nl...
          deshix schreef:
          >Hi everyone, can you recommend me the best way to learn the PHP? I'm
          >really begginer...
          >
          start reading at www.php.net
          >
          try something, and if it does not work, post what you have so far, and
          explain what you where trying to do
          >
          someone may help you in the right direction, some others will just give
          the (in their eyes) correct answer...
          >
          but anyway reading here will help you a lot if you read more than you own
          postings ;-)
          >
          --
          Luuk
          php.net is an awful resource, especially for beginners. I don't understand
          why people are always recommending it!

          Best bet is to buy a PHP book or rent one from the library.

          +mrcakey


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          • Jerry Stuckle

            #6
            Re: Real begginer

            PaulB wrote:
            deshix wrote:
            >Hi everyone, can you recommend me the best way to learn the PHP? I'm
            >really begginer...
            >
            You must be. You can't even spell beginner! :-)
            >

            >
            Paul
            >
            >
            >
            I don't know about that, Paul. Sure he isn't beggin' for help? That
            would make him a begginer :-)

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            • Tim Streater

              #7
              Re: Real begginer

              In article <hq-dnbVeMtTOAUvanZ 2dnUVZ_gqdnZ2d@ comcast.com>,
              Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attg lobal.netwrote:
              PaulB wrote:
              deshix wrote:
              Hi everyone, can you recommend me the best way to learn the PHP? I'm
              really begginer...
              You must be. You can't even spell beginner! :-)



              Paul

              >
              I don't know about that, Paul. Sure he isn't beggin' for help? That
              would make him a begginer :-)
              :-)

              Or perhaps its a verb. I'm begginer not to be confused with beggin'
              there.

              But Paul's advice is sound. The PHP web site is a good resource.

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              • phpCodeHead

                #8
                Re: Real begginer

                On Mar 11, 9:27 am, "mrcakey" <nos...@spamisp oo.comwrote:
                "Luuk" <L...@invalid.l anwrote in message
                >
                news:gufia5-1km.ln1@a62-251-88-195.adsl.xs4all .nl...
                >
                >
                >
                >
                >
                deshix schreef:
                Hi everyone, can you recommend me the best way to learn the PHP? I'm
                really begginer...
                >
                 start reading atwww.php.net
                >
                try something, and if it does not work, post what you have so far, and
                explain what you where trying to do
                >
                someone may help you in the right direction, some others will just give
                the (in their eyes) correct answer...
                >
                but anyway reading here will help you a lot if you read more than you own
                postings ;-)
                >
                --
                Luuk
                >
                php.net is an awful resource, especially for beginners.  I don't understand
                why people are always recommending it!
                >
                Best bet is to buy a PHP book or rent one from the library.
                >
                +mrcakey- Hide quoted text -
                >
                - Show quoted text -
                I disagree. I started out (in 1999) with the tutorial recommended and
                was gently guided into it. Secondly, 8 years later, it is still the
                first resource I look to and is often in the top ten of most SERP.

                However, I agree that they are NOT 100% helpful in all search for
                helps, but show me a php developer's resource site that does and I'll
                stick with the 98% site until then.

                JMO,

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                • deshix

                  #9
                  Re: Real begginer

                  I know about php.net, but can you recommend me any book? I dont enjoy
                  reading a manual when I dont know what do what ;)

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                  • Dave-o

                    #10
                    Re: Real begginer

                    On Mar 11, 9:45 am, deshix <des...@gmail.c omwrote:
                    Hi everyone, can you recommend me the best way to learn the PHP? I'm
                    really begginer...
                    Type in "learn PHP" in Google search and enjoy the surfeit of online
                    resources available.

                    Don't forget www.killerphp.com if you enjoy learning via video.

                    David

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                    • Mason Barge

                      #11
                      Re: Real begginer


                      "deshix" <deshix@gmail.c omwrote in message
                      news:31b69581-d8dd-44e3-a54a-23da383861da@x3 0g2000hsd.googl egroups.com...
                      Hi everyone, can you recommend me the best way to learn the PHP? I'm
                      really beginner...
                      I highly recommend "PHP and MySQL for Dynamic Websites" by Larry Ullman
                      (most recent edition, I think 2d). It's a beginner text. If you just read
                      that, don't skip stuff and work through all the code, you will be well on
                      your way.

                      Ullman is terrific. Unlike 90+% of the programming books, he is scrupulous
                      about testing code, so the code actually works. And if a mistake slips in,
                      he has an active errata sheet. He also has a website where you can download
                      scripts, css and images, with a forum he actually looks at and answers
                      questions.

                      The one weak part is the introductory MySQL material. I found it extremely
                      hard, i.e. impossible, to follow. But you can get the basics you need from
                      online tutorials. MySQL basics -- enough for an intermediate PHP coder --
                      are a piece of cake, especially if you have a graphic interface like
                      PhpMyAdmin, and you will almost certainly want to learn basic MySQL.

                      (The book goes back to "excellent" when he starts talking about combining
                      PHP and MySQL.)

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                      • Steve

                        #12
                        Re: Real begginer

                        In article <OKCdnW5CivvmvU XanZ2dnUVZ_qmln Z2d@comcast.com >,
                        masonbarge@comc ast.net (Mason Barge) wrote:
                        *Subject:* Re: Real begginer
                        *From:* "Mason Barge" <masonbarge@com cast.net>
                        *Date:* Wed, 12 Mar 2008 14:27:01 -0400
                        >
                        "deshix" <deshix@gmail.c omwrote in message
                        news:31b69581-d8dd-44e3-a54a-23da383861da@x3 0g2000hsd.googl egroups.c
                        om...
                        Hi everyone, can you recommend me the best way to learn the PHP?
                        I'm
                        really beginner...
                        >
                        I highly recommend "PHP and MySQL for Dynamic Websites" by Larry
                        Ullman (most recent edition, I think 2d). It's a beginner text.
                        If you just read that, don't skip stuff and work through all the
                        code, you will be well on your way.
                        I concur.

                        If you want REALLY basic, then try 'Making use of PHP' by Ashok Appu,
                        published by Wiley. It's a little old now, and doesn't cover PHP5 but
                        leads you into PHP by examples (Hopefully there's an updated revision
                        since I bought mine). You will also need, an HTML reference, and as
                        suggested elsewhere in this thread, a MySQL reference. You'll probably
                        find yourself needing a javascript book sooner or later too.

                        - Steve

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                        • sheldonlg

                          #13
                          Re: Real begginer

                          Steve wrote:
                          In article <OKCdnW5CivvmvU XanZ2dnUVZ_qmln Z2d@comcast.com >,
                          masonbarge@comc ast.net (Mason Barge) wrote:
                          >
                          >*Subject:* Re: Real begginer
                          >*From:* "Mason Barge" <masonbarge@com cast.net>
                          >*Date:* Wed, 12 Mar 2008 14:27:01 -0400
                          >>
                          >"deshix" <deshix@gmail.c omwrote in message
                          >news:31b6958 1-d8dd-44e3-a54a-23da383861da@x3 0g2000hsd.googl egroups.c
                          >om...
                          >>Hi everyone, can you recommend me the best way to learn the PHP?
                          >>I'm
                          >>really beginner...
                          >I highly recommend "PHP and MySQL for Dynamic Websites" by Larry
                          >Ullman (most recent edition, I think 2d). It's a beginner text.
                          >If you just read that, don't skip stuff and work through all the
                          >code, you will be well on your way.
                          >
                          I concur.
                          >
                          If you want REALLY basic, then try 'Making use of PHP' by Ashok Appu,
                          published by Wiley. It's a little old now, and doesn't cover PHP5 but
                          leads you into PHP by examples (Hopefully there's an updated revision
                          since I bought mine). You will also need, an HTML reference, and as
                          suggested elsewhere in this thread, a MySQL reference. You'll probably
                          find yourself needing a javascript book sooner or later too.
                          >
                          - Steve
                          .....then there is alway w3schools.com.

                          As for php.net, I use that for specific functions and ALWAYS look to the
                          user comments.

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                          • ajtrichards@googlemail.com

                            #14
                            Re: Real begginer

                            On Mar 19, 6:57 pm, sheldonlg <sheldonlgwrote :
                            Steve wrote:
                            In article <OKCdnW5CivvmvU XanZ2dnUVZ_qmln ...@comcast.com >,
                            masonba...@comc ast.net (Mason Barge) wrote:
                            >
                            *Subject:* Re: Real begginer
                            *From:* "Mason Barge" <masonba...@com cast.net>
                            *Date:* Wed, 12 Mar 2008 14:27:01 -0400
                            >
                            "deshix" <des...@gmail.c omwrote in message
                            >news:31b6958 1-d8dd-44e3-a54a-23da383861da@x3 0g2000hsd.googl egroups.c
                            om...
                            >Hi everyone, can you recommend me the best way to learn the PHP?
                            >I'm
                            >really beginner...
                            I highly recommend "PHP and MySQL for Dynamic Websites" by Larry
                            Ullman (most recent edition, I think 2d).  It's a beginner text.  
                            If you just read that, don't skip stuff and work through all the
                            code, you will be well on your way.
                            >
                            I concur.
                            >
                            If you want REALLY basic, then try 'Making use of PHP' by Ashok Appu,
                            published by Wiley. It's a little old now, and doesn't cover PHP5 but
                            leads you into PHP by examples (Hopefully there's an updated revision
                            since I bought mine). You will also need, an HTML reference, and as
                            suggested elsewhere in this thread, a MySQL reference. You'll probably
                            find yourself needing a javascript book sooner or later too.
                            >
                             - Steve
                            >
                            ....then there is alway w3schools.com.
                            >
                            As for php.net, I use that for specific functions and ALWAYS look to the
                            user comments.
                            I would definately recommend PHP & MySQL for Dynamic Websites by
                            Ullman. I started with this. Another good book is Programming PHP by
                            Lerdorf, Tatroe & MacIntyre [ISBN: 0-59-00681-0]

                            Regards,
                            Alex


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