Framework, which one?

[Giovanni R.]

Since now, I've always used my bunch of code to make new applications.

I'd like to start to use a framework.
According to you, which is the best PHP framework at the moment?

Thanks,
Giovanni

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[Rami Elomaa]

Re: Framework, which one?

Giovanni R. kirjoitti:

Since now, I've always used my bunch of code to make new applications.
>
I'd like to start to use a framework.
According to you, which is the best PHP framework at the moment?

PEAR is certainly the one you should look into at first. It's basicly
the De Facto framework for php.

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[Giovanni R.]

Re: Framework, which one?

On Sat, 21 Jul 2007 20:55:49 +0300, Rami Elomaa <rami.elomaa@gm ail.com>
wrote:

According to you, which is the best PHP framework at the moment?

PEAR is certainly the one you should look into at first. It's basicly
the De Facto framework for php.

Well, I'm already using several PEAR packages, but I think the PEAR
framework lacks of several features that other frameworks have.
I was not even considering it as a [complete] framework.

Thanks, anyway.
Giovanni

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[Michael Fesser]

Re: Framework, which one?

..oO(Rami Elomaa)

>Giovanni R. kirjoitti:

>Since now, I've always used my bunch of code to make new applications.
>>
>I'd like to start to use a framework.
>According to you, which is the best PHP framework at the moment?

>
>PEAR is certainly the one you should look into at first. It's basicly
>the De Facto framework for php.

I wouldn't consider it a framework, but a library. I don't really like
it anymore, especially because most of its code is based on old PHP 4,
which has reached its end of life. IMHO a modern framework should be
based on PHP 5, anything else is a waste of time.

The Zend Framework seems to become quite common these days, but I can't
tell much about it, since I use my own.

Micha

[NC]

Re: Framework, which one?

On Jul 21, 10:51 am, "Giovanni R." <leonida1...@NO SPAMlibero.it>
wrote:

>
I'd like to start to use a framework.
According to you, which is the best PHP framework at the moment?

There is no such thing as "the best framework". Frameworks can speed
up the development process (note that they can, but not necessarily
will, especially in the beginning, as the programmer(s) need to learn
them, which requires time and effort). At the same time, the use of
off-the-shelf frameworks can (and very likely will) increase the
application's system requirements, so you should think twice about
using frameworks for applications that would have to scale up.

Cheers,
NC

[Sanders Kaufman]

Re: Framework, which one?

Michael Fesser wrote:

.oO(Rami Elomaa)

>PEAR is certainly the one you should look into at first. It's basicly
>the De Facto framework for php.

>
I wouldn't consider it a framework, but a library.

Even the PEAR folks themselves don't even try to claim it's a framework.

The Zend Framework seems to become quite common these days, but I can't
tell much about it, since I use my own.

I just looked into Zend pretty closely. It's a very scaled-back version
of PEAR, with only a few of the functions.

While they do call it a framework, it's *very* incomplete.

Although Zend and PEAR are not frameworks, I'm finding them TREMENDOUSLY
useful in building my own framework.

[bermiferrer]

Re: Framework, which one?

On Jul 21, 7:51 pm, "Giovanni R." <leonida1...@NO SPAMlibero.itwr ote:

Since now, I've always used my bunch of code to make new applications.
>
I'd like to start to use a framework.
According to you, which is the best PHP framework at the moment?
>
Thanks,
Giovanni
>
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It seems that you're looking for a MVC PHP framework and not a Library
like others are suggesting.

I recommend you to have a look to http://www.symfony-project.com,
http://www.cakephp.org, and http://www.akelos.org. All them are MVC
frameworks based on conventions that follow the DRY philosophy and are
heavily influenced by Ruby on Rails.

Disclaimer: I'm the lead developer of the Akelos PHP Framework.

[Sanders Kaufman]

Re: Framework, which one?

bermiferrer wrote:

It seems that you're looking for a MVC PHP framework and not a Library
like others are suggesting.

MVC? Wassat?

[Michael Fesser]

Re: Framework, which one?

..oO(Sanders Kaufman)

>bermiferrer wrote:
>

>It seems that you're looking for a MVC PHP framework and not a Library
>like others are suggesting.

>
>MVC? Wassat?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Model-view-controller

Micha

[Toby A Inkster]

Re: Framework, which one?

Giovanni R. wrote:

According to you, which is the best PHP framework at the moment?

If I may, for a moment, borrow an analogy from Kelly Martin
(theregister.co .uk), I am of the school of thought that using
a framework is rather like drilling ones own teeth -- it's
pretty scary when you can't see what's going on inside.

I use PEAR and other libraries extensively, but try to steer
away from frameworks claiming to offer an all-singing,
all-dancing solution to everything.

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