Zend Framework?

[Sanders Kaufman]

I've been programming a long time, but I'm not very bright these days.

I've been using Zend Studio for a couple of years (LOVING IT!!) to build
a web framework.

I've been *hearing* about a Zend Framework, but never looked into it. I
just got back from the web site... and I guess my dimness is shining,
because I can't figure out what it is.

Can someone give me a little narrative about what it is and how I might
use it?

[Benjamin]

Re: Zend Framework?

On Jul 15, 11:35 am, Sanders Kaufman <bu...@kaufman. netwrote:

I've been programming a long time, but I'm not very bright these days.
>
I've been using Zend Studio for a couple of years (LOVING IT!!) to build
a web framework.
>
I've been *hearing* about a Zend Framework, but never looked into it. I
just got back from the web site... and I guess my dimness is shining,
because I can't figure out what it is.
>
Can someone give me a little narrative about what it is and how I might
use it?

Basically, it's a collection of tools coded in PHP for a wide range of
topics. You can covert weight and connect to databases. The docs are
pretty good so give it a try.

[Sanders Kaufman]

Re: Zend Framework?

Benjamin wrote:

On Jul 15, 11:35 am, Sanders Kaufman <bu...@kaufman. netwrote:

>I've been *hearing* about a Zend Framework, but never looked into it. I
>just got back from the web site... and I guess my dimness is shining,
>because I can't figure out what it is.
>>
>Can someone give me a little narrative about what it is and how I might
>use it?

>
Basically, it's a collection of tools coded in PHP for a wide range of
topics. You can covert weight and connect to databases. The docs are
pretty good so give it a try.

Is that the "Code Snippets" thingy? I've used that before, but I
wouldn't call it a "framework" .

[C.]

Re: Zend Framework?

On 15 Jul, 17:35, Sanders Kaufman <bu...@kaufman. netwrote:

I've been programming a long time, but I'm not very bright these days.
>
I've been using Zend Studio for a couple of years (LOVING IT!!) to build
a web framework.
>
I've been *hearing* about a Zend Framework, but never looked into it. I
just got back from the web site... and I guess my dimness is shining,
because I can't figure out what it is.
>
Can someone give me a little narrative about what it is and how I might
use it?

A framework is:

1) a library of code
2) a template for extending the library
3) rules about structuring your code to a standard
4) prewritten modules (e.g. templating systems, user management pages,
unit testing)

As you will have no doubt found out, there are lots of frameworks out
there, most of which are fairly inflexible and/or designed for very
specific functions. I've found that Seagull fits my needs quite well,
but for a very different approach look at Prado which layers XML on
top of PHP.

Zend is rather nice in that it imposes less on the structure of your
code than some frameworks and is intended to allow you to plugin your
own code to standard APIs.

For a framework to be of any use it should save you time and effort in
coding - but they all demand a fairly high level of familiarity with
the framework.

HTH

C.

[Sanders Kaufman]

Re: Zend Framework?

Benjamin wrote:

On Jul 15, 11:35 am, Sanders Kaufman <bu...@kaufman. netwrote:

>Can someone give me a little narrative about what it is and how I might
>use it?

>
Basically, it's a collection of tools coded in PHP for a wide range of
topics. You can covert weight and connect to databases. The docs are
pretty good so give it a try.

Thanks. I was thinking that it was more than just a collection of
utilities - albeit, very cool ones.

[Moot]

Re: Zend Framework?

On Jul 16, 10:29 am, Sanders Kaufman <bu...@kaufman. netwrote:

Benjamin wrote:

On Jul 15, 11:35 am, Sanders Kaufman <bu...@kaufman. netwrote:

Can someone give me a little narrative about what it is and how I might
use it?

>

Basically, it's a collection of tools coded in PHP for a wide range of
topics. You can covert weight and connect to databases. The docs are
pretty good so give it a try.

>
Thanks. I was thinking that it was more than just a collection of
utilities - albeit, very cool ones.

Well, I'd break Zend Framework down into two categories:
- The MVC framework (ZendController , ZendView, maybe a few others)
- Everything else

The MVC (model-view-controller) aspect of it is very intertwined and
stuck together, and it actually feels like a whole framework. The
rest of it, well, it's just a bunch of random modules that only
occasionally relate to each other, many of which already have equals
or betters in PEAR.