JPG -> PNG -> crapola

**Norman Peelman** · Jul 17 '05, 06:45 AM

Re: JPG -> PNG -> crapola

"dan glenn" <dan_danboy@yah oo.com> wrote in message
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> PHP4.3.2, GD2 - I have found to my great dismay and consternation that if[/color]
I[color=blue]
> load a jpg image [imagecreatefrom jpg(...)], then save it as a PNG, the
> resulting PNG will actually work in a browser, but it can't be loaded[/color]
again[color=blue]
> by imagecreatefrom png(...), and if I try to open it with a graphics[/color]
program,[color=blue]
> like Paint Shop Pro, it tells me that it is no a legitament PNG file and
> refuses to load it.
>
> Likewise, if I start with a legit PNG (works with PSP), and save as a jpg,
> the jpg will work in a browser, but can't be loaded again with
> imagecreatefrom jpg() or with PSP.
>
> I was under the impression I could load from one type and save as another
> type as long as I didn't try to do something stupid like go from a[/color]
truecolor[color=blue]
> image to a palette-based image, or vice-versa.
>
> Do I have to give up on change types this way???
> -dg
>
>
>[/color]
Try saving it as a GD (raw) image first. ex:

imagecreatefrom jpg -> save gd-(raw) -> close image -> load gd-(raw) -> save
as png

Norm

**dan glenn** · Jul 17 '05, 06:45 AM

Re: JPG -> PNG -> crapola

"Norman Peelman" <npeelman@cfl.r r.com> wrote in message
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> "dan glenn" <dan_danboy@yah oo.com> wrote in message
> news:JBaDc.7844 6$5q.3109@newss vr29.news.prodi gy.com...[color=green]
> > PHP4.3.2, GD2 - I have found to my great dismay and consternation that[/color][/color]
if[color=blue]
> I[color=green]
> > load a jpg image [imagecreatefrom jpg(...)], then save it as a PNG, the
> > resulting PNG will actually work in a browser, but it can't be loaded[/color]
> again[color=green]
> > by imagecreatefrom png(...), and if I try to open it with a graphics[/color]
> program,[color=green]
> > like Paint Shop Pro, it tells me that it is no a legitament PNG file and
> > refuses to load it.
> >
> > Likewise, if I start with a legit PNG (works with PSP), and save as a[/color][/color]
jpg,[color=blue][color=green]
> > the jpg will work in a browser, but can't be loaded again with
> > imagecreatefrom jpg() or with PSP.
> >
> > I was under the impression I could load from one type and save as[/color][/color]
another[color=blue][color=green]
> > type as long as I didn't try to do something stupid like go from a[/color]
> truecolor[color=green]
> > image to a palette-based image, or vice-versa.
> >
> > Do I have to give up on change types this way???
> > -dg
> >
> >
> >[/color]
> Try saving it as a GD (raw) image first. ex:
>
> imagecreatefrom jpg -> save gd-(raw) -> close image -> load gd-(raw) ->[/color]
save[color=blue]
> as png
>
> Norm[/color]

Tried it. Made no difference. Strange that browsers can handle the PNG
created from a JPG but nothing else (included GD2) can!

**Chung Leong** · Jul 17 '05, 06:46 AM

Re: JPG -> PNG -> crapola

"dan glenn" <dan_danboy@yah oo.com> wrote in message
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> Tried it. Made no difference. Strange that browsers can handle the PNG
> created from a JPG but nothing else (included GD2) can!
>[/color]

Make sure the file in question is actually of the said format. IE does data
sniffing, so that a file with the wrong extension would open correctly.
Right click on the image and check the properties.

**dan glenn** · Jul 17 '05, 06:47 AM

Re: JPG -> PNG -> crapola

"Chung Leong" <chernyshevsky@ hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> "dan glenn" <dan_danboy@yah oo.com> wrote in message
> news:44sDc.3099 $Qh5.1995@newss vr27.news.prodi gy.com...[color=green]
> > Tried it. Made no difference. Strange that browsers can handle
> > the PNG created from a JPG but nothing else (included GD2) can!
> >[/color]
>
> Make sure the file in question is actually of the said format.
> IE does data sniffing, so that a file with the wrong extension
> would open correctly. Right click on the image and check the
> properties.[/color]

WOW. You're absolutely correct. Right-clicking and checking
properties doesn't tell me the 'true' format - it just reports
whatever the extension says. But I found that if I renamed the
newly-created PNG to have extension .JPG, it CAN be loaded again
via imagecreatefrom jpeg(), which means that it truly is a JPG.

So it would seem that IMAGEPNG() is just the same as IMAGEJPEG()
if the original image was loaded by IMAGELOADFROMJP EG(), which
is saying IMAGEPNG() will save as a JPG, which is a bit bizaar,
I think! The manual never explicitly says this. Maybe the idea
of loading from one type and saving to another type is 'crazy'
and they didn't think they had to say this in the manual?

Anyway, I GIVE UP! I'm going to try an use ImageMagik, or something
like that to transform from one format to another, which brings me
to another question I hope you may be able to help me with: my web
host does not offer telnet access. How can I get ImageMagik (or
anything like this, for that matter), installed so I can use it?
Only source files are available for unix ImageMagik, and that means
it must be compiled on the server machine itself, which I (seemingly)
can't do, since I don't have that kind of access.

Am I missing something in this analysis (I am not at all acquainted
that much with UNIX)?

**Norman Peelman** · Jul 17 '05, 06:47 AM

Re: JPG -> PNG -> crapola

"dan glenn" <dan_danboy@yah oo.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Norman Peelman" <npeelman@cfl.r r.com> wrote in message
> news:kunDc.1579 09$Ol3.95932@tw ister.tampabay. rr.com...[color=green]
> > "dan glenn" <dan_danboy@yah oo.com> wrote in message
> > news:JBaDc.7844 6$5q.3109@newss vr29.news.prodi gy.com...[color=darkred]
> > > PHP4.3.2, GD2 - I have found to my great dismay and consternation that[/color][/color]
> if[color=green]
> > I[color=darkred]
> > > load a jpg image [imagecreatefrom jpg(...)], then save it as a PNG, the
> > > resulting PNG will actually work in a browser, but it can't be loaded[/color]
> > again[color=darkred]
> > > by imagecreatefrom png(...), and if I try to open it with a graphics[/color]
> > program,[color=darkred]
> > > like Paint Shop Pro, it tells me that it is no a legitament PNG file[/color][/color][/color]
and[color=blue][color=green][color=darkred]
> > > refuses to load it.
> > >
> > > Likewise, if I start with a legit PNG (works with PSP), and save as a[/color][/color]
> jpg,[color=green][color=darkred]
> > > the jpg will work in a browser, but can't be loaded again with
> > > imagecreatefrom jpg() or with PSP.
> > >
> > > I was under the impression I could load from one type and save as[/color][/color]
> another[color=green][color=darkred]
> > > type as long as I didn't try to do something stupid like go from a[/color]
> > truecolor[color=darkred]
> > > image to a palette-based image, or vice-versa.
> > >
> > > Do I have to give up on change types this way???
> > > -dg
> > >
> > >
> > >[/color]
> > Try saving it as a GD (raw) image first. ex:
> >
> > imagecreatefrom jpg -> save gd-(raw) -> close image -> load gd-(raw) ->[/color]
> save[color=green]
> > as png
> >
> > Norm[/color]
>
> Tried it. Made no difference. Strange that browsers can handle the PNG
> created from a JPG but nothing else (included GD2) can!
>
>
>[/color]

I just tried this code and it works:

$imjpg = imagecreatefrom jpeg("path:/to/your.jpg");
// load from jpg file

//header("Content-type: image/jpg");
//imagejpeg($imjp g);

//imagegd2($imjpg ,"path:/to/your.gd");
//imagedestroy($i mjpg);

//$imgd2 = imagecreatefrom gd2("path:/to/your.gd");
//imagepng($imgd2 ,"path:/to/your.png");

imagepng($imjpg ,"path:/to/your.png");
// save to png file

//imagedestroy($i mgd2);

imagedestroy($i mjpg);

// open new png file and display
$impng = imagecreatefrom png("path:/to/your.png");
header("Content-type: image/x-png");
imagepng($impng );

imagedestroy($i mpng);

---

As you can see I did some testing and found that there are some cache
issues that make the browser (in this case Opera7) think that the image is
still a JPEG after the second (PNG) image is sent to it. By commenting out
everything but the loading, conversion, and final display, it works
perfectly.

Norm

**Chung Leong** · Jul 17 '05, 06:48 AM

Re: JPG -> PNG -> crapola

"dan glenn" <dan_danboy@yah oo.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Chung Leong" <chernyshevsky@ hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:x5CdnUpluo 1z30LdRVn-uw@comcast.com. ..[color=green]
> > "dan glenn" <dan_danboy@yah oo.com> wrote in message
> > news:44sDc.3099 $Qh5.1995@newss vr27.news.prodi gy.com...[color=darkred]
> > > Tried it. Made no difference. Strange that browsers can handle
> > > the PNG created from a JPG but nothing else (included GD2) can!
> > >[/color]
> >
> > Make sure the file in question is actually of the said format.
> > IE does data sniffing, so that a file with the wrong extension
> > would open correctly. Right click on the image and check the
> > properties.[/color]
>
> WOW. You're absolutely correct. Right-clicking and checking
> properties doesn't tell me the 'true' format - it just reports
> whatever the extension says. But I found that if I renamed the
> newly-created PNG to have extension .JPG, it CAN be loaded again
> via imagecreatefrom jpeg(), which means that it truly is a JPG.
>
> So it would seem that IMAGEPNG() is just the same as IMAGEJPEG()
> if the original image was loaded by IMAGELOADFROMJP EG(), which
> is saying IMAGEPNG() will save as a JPG, which is a bit bizaar,
> I think! The manual never explicitly says this. Maybe the idea
> of loading from one type and saving to another type is 'crazy'
> and they didn't think they had to say this in the manual?
>
> Anyway, I GIVE UP! I'm going to try an use ImageMagik, or something
> like that to transform from one format to another, which brings me
> to another question I hope you may be able to help me with: my web
> host does not offer telnet access. How can I get ImageMagik (or
> anything like this, for that matter), installed so I can use it?
> Only source files are available for unix ImageMagik, and that means
> it must be compiled on the server machine itself, which I (seemingly)
> can't do, since I don't have that kind of access.
>
> Am I missing something in this analysis (I am not at all acquainted
> that much with UNIX)?[/color]

Sounds like you have a busted built of PHP or there's something wrong with
your logic somewhere. Please post the code in question.

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