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  • Paul

    PHP certification

    I've read the FAQ at Zend.com but have a question. If I pass the PHP 4
    exam, does it expire?

    I am NOT comfortable with OOP yet - that is why I want to take the PHP 4
    exam. I use PHP 5 now but not the OO funcationality.

    Your thoughts?


  • Rik

    #2
    Re: PHP certification

    Paul wrote:
    I've read the FAQ at Zend.com but have a question. If I pass the PHP
    4 exam, does it expire?
    No idea.
    I am NOT comfortable with OOP yet - that is why I want to take the
    PHP 4 exam. I use PHP 5 now but not the OO funcationality.
    Are you sure you need the certification? Hardly any future employer will
    care for it AFAIK. They are much more interested in past work then this
    particular certification, assuming they've even heard of it.
    --
    Rik Wasmus


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    • Paul

      #3
      Re: PHP certification


      "Rik" <luiheidsgoeroe @hotmail.comwro te in message
      news:bb7b5$4580 72fa$8259c69c$2 1246@news2.tude lft.nl...
      Paul wrote:
      >I've read the FAQ at Zend.com but have a question. If I pass the PHP
      >4 exam, does it expire?
      >
      No idea.
      >
      >I am NOT comfortable with OOP yet - that is why I want to take the
      >PHP 4 exam. I use PHP 5 now but not the OO funcationality.
      >
      Are you sure you need the certification? Hardly any future employer will
      care for it AFAIK. They are much more interested in past work then this
      particular certification, assuming they've even heard of it.
      --
      Rik Wasmus
      I am not sure but am getting calls for part-time consulting gigs and want a
      cert to help marketing.


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      • Rik

        #4
        Re: PHP certification

        Paul wrote:
        "Rik" <luiheidsgoeroe @hotmail.comwro te
        >Are you sure you need the certification? Hardly any future employer
        >will care for it AFAIK. They are much more interested in past work
        >then this particular certification, assuming they've even heard of
        >it.
        >
        I am not sure but am getting calls for part-time consulting gigs and
        want a cert to help marketing.
        Well, it's quite cheap, so if you think it'll help, go ahead. I haven't met
        the contracter who gave a damn.
        You know what's frightening:
        - 49% hold other certification credentials

        LESS then a half of the participants have any certification whatsoever in
        whatsoever....

        In my experienxe contracters are looking for:
        - either someone who can prove his experience by earlier projects,
        - or (for the long term) someone with a finished IT eduction, in which case
        they normally don't even care wther the person knows PHP at all, as it is
        such an easy language to learn for someone with the proper prerequisites.

        Unfortunately, I still don't know wether it expires. But hey: weird
        thought: let's ask the people who give out the certification:

        --
        Rik Wasmus


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        • peter

          #5
          Re: PHP certification

          I've read the FAQ at Zend.com but have a question. If I pass the PHP 4
          exam, does it expire?
          No the certification never expirse. Once you pass the exam you are always
          considered a php certified engineer BUT of course you are certified only for
          php 4 so the certification can effectively become outdated.

          If you do wish to become certified with php 4 I suggest you hurry as the
          last I heard the plan was for zend to stop the exam for that version in the
          new year unless there was enough demand. You of course cannot count on the
          demand being there and the exam being continued unless an official
          announcement is made.

          The best person to ask would be Dhwani Vahia who is the education program
          manager at zend. She can be contacted at dhwaniATzendDOT com (replace the
          obvious)


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          • Dikkie Dik

            #6
            Re: PHP certification

            >>I am NOT comfortable with OOP yet - that is why I want to take the
            >>PHP 4 exam. I use PHP 5 now but not the OO funcationality.
            >Are you sure you need the certification? Hardly any future employer will
            >care for it AFAIK. They are much more interested in past work then this
            >particular certification, assuming they've even heard of it.
            I am not sure but am getting calls for part-time consulting gigs and want a
            cert to help marketing.
            I'd start with Object Oriented Programming and leave the certificate. I
            never encountered an employer who asked for a PHP certificate, but
            nearly all of them ask for object-oriented experience. Often, an object
            oriented background is considered more important than specific PHP
            knowledge.
            Mind you, a huge lot of those employers do not or hardly use any objects
            in their code, but they nonetheless ask for the knowledge when
            recruiting personnel.

            Best regards

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            • Michael Austin

              #7
              Re: PHP certification

              Paul wrote:
              I've read the FAQ at Zend.com but have a question. If I pass the PHP 4
              exam, does it expire?
              >
              I am NOT comfortable with OOP yet - that is why I want to take the PHP 4
              exam. I use PHP 5 now but not the OO funcationality.
              >
              Your thoughts?
              >
              >
              IMHO, certification of any type is only good for the first few years out of
              college. After that, it is the experience that will get you a job. Until you
              reach 10-15 years, then you are just too expensive and they "lay you off" and
              look for the next college graduate with a certification.

              --
              Michael Austin.
              Database Consultant w/25+ years of IT experience.

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              • Paul

                #8
                Re: PHP certification


                "Michael Austin" <maustin@firstd basource.comwro te in message
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                Paul wrote:
                >
                >I've read the FAQ at Zend.com but have a question. If I pass the PHP 4
                >exam, does it expire?
                >>
                >I am NOT comfortable with OOP yet - that is why I want to take the PHP 4
                >exam. I use PHP 5 now but not the OO funcationality.
                >>
                >Your thoughts?
                >
                IMHO, certification of any type is only good for the first few years out
                of college. After that, it is the experience that will get you a job.
                Until you reach 10-15 years, then you are just too expensive and they "lay
                you off" and look for the next college graduate with a certification.
                >
                --
                Michael Austin.
                Database Consultant w/25+ years of IT experience.
                I know what you mean!


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                • Dr. No

                  #9
                  Re: PHP certification

                  Paul wrote:
                  "Rik" <luiheidsgoeroe @hotmail.comwro te in message
                  news:bb7b5$4580 72fa$8259c69c$2 1246@news2.tude lft.nl...
                  >Paul wrote:
                  >>I've read the FAQ at Zend.com but have a question. If I pass the PHP
                  >>4 exam, does it expire?
                  >No idea.
                  >>
                  >>I am NOT comfortable with OOP yet - that is why I want to take the
                  >>PHP 4 exam. I use PHP 5 now but not the OO funcationality.
                  >Are you sure you need the certification? Hardly any future employer will
                  >care for it AFAIK. They are much more interested in past work then this
                  >particular certification, assuming they've even heard of it.
                  >--
                  >Rik Wasmus
                  >
                  I am not sure but am getting calls for part-time consulting gigs and want a
                  cert to help marketing.
                  >
                  >

                  I think another valid question to ask yourself is do you want the client who is
                  impressed by a certificate. Looking at the sample exam, what the test shows is
                  that you have an in depth knowledge of the type of information contained in the
                  PHP manual. Basically it tests syntax and vocabulary. It doesn't mean that you
                  can actually program in PHP, or any other language. You can't test for that for
                  PHP or any other language, including Java. Language certifications are a joke.
                  Spend your energies getting to know the language better. Write more code. In the
                  long run you'll serve your clients' interests better, and that is always good
                  for business.

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                  • NC

                    #10
                    Re: PHP certification

                    Paul wrote:
                    >
                    I've read the FAQ at Zend.com but have a question. If I pass
                    the PHP 4 exam, does it expire?
                    No.
                    I am NOT comfortable with OOP yet - that is why I want to take
                    the PHP 4 exam.
                    PHP 4 exam has OOP-related questions, too... It's just that
                    they are specific to OOP as implemented in PHP 4.

                    Cheers,
                    NC

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