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  • Matthew Harrison

    #31
    Re: PHP Content Management System

    Erwin Moller wrote:
    [color=blue]
    > Matthew Harrison wrote:
    >
    >[color=green]
    >>Geoff Berrow wrote:
    >>
    >>[color=darkred]
    >>>Are you determined to prove what a prat you are for anyone still in
    >>>doubt?[/color]
    >>
    >>You are the troll, I'm the innocent bystander - I really, really, truly,
    >>honestly, absolutely have no idea why this tiny little question has
    >>rattled so many people.
    >>[/color]
    >
    >
    > Matthew, you are soo out of line.
    >
    > If you don't understand why we are a little irritated, then read my response
    > to your posting in the other thread.
    > I explained what your problem is.
    >
    > You are an angry nOOb because things don't work as you expected.[/color]

    Not angry, and certainly not a n00b. So two strikes against you so far.
    [color=blue]
    > And then the CMS is broken, or sucks or whatever.
    > THAT is the problem.[/color]

    No - that is not the problem.

    My ISP sucks, and is broken and I am angry about that because I don't
    have any choice in ISP. There seems to be alot of quality CMS systems so
    no need to get agro, just hunt up some alternates.

    Three strikes against you so far.
    [color=blue]
    > Most of us over here respect the people that put many hard hours into
    > things like *nuke to complete, and deliver that completely free to the
    > community.[/color]

    Yes - and your point being ?
    [color=blue]
    > A little respect and patience would suit you better.[/color]

    I don't remember showing any disrespect, and I did spend several hours
    trying to get them to say anything, even an error message.

    Five strikes against you now.
    [color=blue]
    > I found the PHP-people one of the nicest, most patient guys, and if you
    > upset some, believe me: you are doing something wrong.[/color]

    I don't know which PHP-People you are talking about, but apart from 2
    people who responded with helpful responses to this thread, most of the
    rest have been arrogant, angry bastards toward me with no provocation.
    [color=blue]
    > Instead of trying to prove you are right, which you are clearly not, you
    > better try to learn a little today. A little about computers and PHP, and a
    > little about your behaviour, which clearly irritates people.[/color]

    If asking a simple question like alternates irritates you, then I
    suggest you stop flaming people, and go and do something you are used to
    like fucking your mother.
    [color=blue]
    > It irritates the hell out of me, that's for sure.[/color]

    Well - I have no idea why.


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    • Erwin Moller

      #32
      Re: PHP Content Management System

      blacklistmateri al.

      Don't bother to respond, Metthew, I won't see it anymore.


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      • Martoni

        #33
        Re: PHP Content Management System

        Matthew Harrison <m.harrison@cra znar.com> writes:
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        > Frank Schummertz wrote:
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        >> Matthew Harrison schrieb:
        >>[color=darkred]
        >>> Thanks, bookmarked for 3rd in the queue.[/color]
        >> http://www.postnuke.com[/color]
        >
        > Tried that one - doesn't work.[/color]

        bollmora.skjold ebrand.org

        Of course it "works" just because you can't figure it out ....

        /M.

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        Martin Skjöldebrand
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        • Martoni

          #34
          Re: PHP Content Management System

          I've installed PostNuke about a dozen times.
          It has never failed. It always "work".
          I think I have magick powers ....

          /M.
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          Martin Skjöldebrand
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          • Virgil Green

            #35
            Re: PHP Content Management System


            "Matthew Harrison" <m.harrison@cra znar.com> wrote in message
            news:c51045$2mh hie$1@ID-211226.news.uni-berlin.de...[color=blue]
            > Geoff Berrow wrote:
            >[color=green]
            > > Are you determined to prove what a prat you are for anyone still in
            > > doubt?[/color]
            >
            > You are the troll, I'm the innocent bystander - I really, really, truly,
            > honestly, absolutely have no idea why this tiny little question has
            > rattled so many people.
            >[/color]

            Because ridiculous statements on usenet always start flamewars... and yours
            was a ridiculous statement. It had no basis in fact. There is way too much
            evidence that all the CMS packages you mentioned do, indeed, work.

            - Virgil


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            • Virgil Green

              #36
              Re: PHP Content Management System

              "Matthew Harrison" <m.harrison@cra znar.com> wrote in message
              news:c50o7r$2n8 7f9$1@ID-211226.news.uni-berlin.de...[color=blue]
              > Frank Schummertz wrote:[color=green]
              > > Matthew Harrison schrieb:
              > >[/color]
              >
              > I don't see why so many people are upset about this. If I came on and
              > said my toaster doesn't work - would people be just as upset ? If I
              > asked for recommendations on other toasters to buy because the one I had
              > didn't work - would they get upset ?[/color]

              Try dropping into the forum where the toaster engineers hang out and claim
              that their products don't work.

              What you don't seem to get is that you are in here telling the developers
              and designers (or those just like them) that their stuff doesn't work. Since
              they all know it *does* work, they take a bit of offense at some layman
              making claims to the contrary in a relatively public forum. Especially when
              the fault is clearly in your configuration/installation.

              - Virgil


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              • Brandon Blackmoor

                #37
                Re: PHP Content Management System

                Matthew Harrison wrote:[color=blue]
                >
                > I don't see why so many people are upset about this.
                > If I came on and said my toaster doesn't work - would
                > people be just as upset?[/color]

                Because it's rather apparent that you have not followed the directions
                already provided. It's possible that one php portal you've tried is
                broken. That you have tried several and had the same problem with all of
                them strongly implies the problem is not in the software.

                bblackmoor
                2004-04-07

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                • Virgil Green

                  #38
                  Re: PHP Content Management System

                  "Matthew Harrison" <m.harrison@cra znar.com> wrote in message
                  news:c4tuas$2ke cph$1@ID-211226.news.uni-berlin.de...[color=blue]
                  > Virgil Green wrote:
                  >
                  >[color=green]
                  > > If you've tried three different CMSs with no success... what make you[/color][/color]
                  think[color=blue][color=green]
                  > > the next one will be any better?[/color]
                  >
                  > I tried 20 or so newsgroup readers before I found one that I liked, I
                  > figured 2 or 3 CMS systems not working isn't a big hurdle.[/color]

                  "didn't work" and "didn't like" are two very different things.
                  [color=blue][color=green]
                  > > Those you've mentioned can/do work.[/color]
                  >
                  > Well when there is only 3 lines of install instruction, and it does
                  > nothing (no errors - literally nothing) after that happens - it doesn't
                  > give you much hope.[/color]

                  Those instructions typically expect you to have your webserver, PHP, etc
                  configured properly first. That is the kind of thing people usually forget
                  to take care of before diving into their "three lines" of installation
                  instructions.
                  [color=blue][color=green]
                  > > They
                  > > work on thousands of servers each day.[/color]
                  >
                  > I'd suspect more than thousands of people know more about hacking PHP
                  > than I do (otherwise I'd write my own).
                  >[color=green]
                  > > Perhaps you should find out *why*
                  > > those didn't work.[/color]
                  >
                  > Why - seems easier to chase up an alternative or two. I've started
                  > evaluating Mambo, and one other person has given me another one to try
                  > out - in addition to another one I have found by asking elsewhere, I'm
                  > way ahead of trying to hack PHP code.[/color]

                  Because the problems that keep one from working are probably going to keep
                  most of them from working. No one even suggested that you hack PHP code. It
                  is your configuration that is suspect.

                  - Virgil


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                  • Matthew Harrison

                    #39
                    Re: PHP Content Management System

                    Virgil Green wrote:
                    [color=blue][color=green]
                    >>I tried 20 or so newsgroup readers before I found one that I liked, I
                    >>figured 2 or 3 CMS systems not working isn't a big hurdle.[/color]
                    >
                    >
                    > "didn't work" and "didn't like" are two very different things.[/color]

                    They most certainly are - I was referring to the "didn't work" here.

                    Thanks for clarifying that for the masses.

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                    • Virgil Green

                      #40
                      Re: PHP Content Management System

                      "Matthew Harrison" <m.harrison@cra znar.com> wrote in message
                      news:c54g9v$2pc 2h0$3@ID-211226.news.uni-berlin.de...[color=blue]
                      > Virgil Green wrote:
                      >[color=green][color=darkred]
                      > >>I tried 20 or so newsgroup readers before I found one that I liked, I
                      > >>figured 2 or 3 CMS systems not working isn't a big hurdle.[/color]
                      > >
                      > >
                      > > "didn't work" and "didn't like" are two very different things.[/color]
                      >
                      > They most certainly are - I was referring to the "didn't work" here.
                      >
                      > Thanks for clarifying that for the masses.[/color]

                      You may rest assured that the clarification was strictly for you.

                      - Virgil


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                      • Chris Hope

                        #41
                        Re: PHP Content Management System

                        Matthew Harrison wrote:
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                        > I'm looking for a content management system that works.
                        >
                        > I've tried phpNuke, phpMyWeb and Jetbox so far. I cannot get any of them
                        > to even display the admin screens.[/color]

                        Looks like you managed to get something sorted out in the end, but in case
                        you're still looking (and for other people) this is an excellent site I
                        found this morning which has a whole bunch of different open source CMS
                        systems, e-commerce systems etc written in PHP installed. The databases are
                        rebuilt every couple of hours so you can go in and play with them to see if
                        it suits your needs.

                        OpenSourceCMS.com is a central resource for all things related to Open-source CMS and gives you the opportunity to “try out” most of the best Open-source CMS tools in the world without marketing fluff or sales people. Feel free to browse around on the site and try fully configured standard demos of the systems you are […]


                        Chris

                        --
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                        The Electric Toolbox Ltd

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                        • Matthew Harrison

                          #42
                          Re: PHP Content Management System

                          Virgil Green wrote:
                          [color=blue]
                          > "Matthew Harrison" <m.harrison@cra znar.com> wrote in message
                          > news:c54g9v$2pc 2h0$3@ID-211226.news.uni-berlin.de...[color=green]
                          >>Virgil Green wrote:[color=darkred]
                          >>>>I tried 20 or so newsgroup readers before I found one that I liked, I
                          >>>>figured 2 or 3 CMS systems not working isn't a big hurdle.
                          >>>"didn't work" and "didn't like" are two very different things.[/color]
                          >>They most certainly are - I was referring to the "didn't work" here.
                          >>Thanks for clarifying that for the masses.[/color]
                          > You may rest assured that the clarification was strictly for you.[/color]

                          My sincere apologies on your wasted time, as I needed no clarification.

                          Thanks however for the apparently unintended result of clarifying for
                          others.

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                          • Matthew Harrison

                            #43
                            Re: PHP Content Management System

                            Chris Hope wrote:
                            [color=blue]
                            > http://www.opensourcecms.com/[/color]

                            Thank you very very much - about 3 times as many there as I could find
                            myself.

                            I'm in CMS heaven.

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