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  • michaeln

    #16
    Re: PHP IDE or PHP editor

    Jeffrey Silverman wrote:
    [color=blue]
    > On Fri, 26 Mar 2004 01:16:47 -0500, michaeln wrote:
    >[color=green]
    >> (2) Kate[/color]
    >
    > Quanta
    >[/color]

    I like kate more. :)

    Although I will say Quanta has some nice features. I still prefer kate.
    But I use kate for everything. CPP programs, Bash, PHP, PERL, whatever.

    Michael

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    • Lothar Scholz

      #17
      Re: PHP IDE or PHP editor

      Jeffrey Silverman <jeffrey@jhu.ed u> wrote in message news:<pan.2004. 03.26.18.45.03. 970760@jhu.edu> ...[color=blue]
      > On Fri, 26 Mar 2004 01:16:47 -0500, michaeln wrote:
      >[color=green]
      > > (2) Kate[/color]
      >
      > Quanta[/color]

      Sorry but both of them are simple and not very good all purpose editors.
      I find them not much better then the famous "ed".

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      • michaeln

        #18
        Re: PHP IDE or PHP editor

        Lothar Scholz wrote:
        [color=blue]
        > Jeffrey Silverman <jeffrey@jhu.ed u> wrote in message
        > news:<pan.2004. 03.26.18.45.03. 970760@jhu.edu> ...[color=green]
        >> On Fri, 26 Mar 2004 01:16:47 -0500, michaeln wrote:
        >>[color=darkred]
        >> > (2) Kate[/color]
        >>
        >> Quanta[/color]
        >
        > Sorry but both of them are simple and not very good all purpose editors.
        > I find them not much better then the famous "ed".[/color]

        What more do you want out of a text editor than text highlighting and the
        ability to type? Unless you want autocomplete and WYSIWYG etc. which isn't
        really necessary for PHP programming.

        Michael

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        • R. Rajesh Jeba Anbiah

          #19
          Re: PHP IDE or PHP editor

          michaeln <no@spam.please > wrote in message news:<c42jou$5v j3$8@news3.info ave.net>...[color=blue]
          > Tony Marston wrote:[/color]

          <snip>
          [color=blue][color=green][color=darkred]
          > >> Ok, seriously when I was on windows I liked phpedit if you don't want to
          > >> spend a bundle on Dreamweaver. Although I am not sure how either will
          > >> run on Win98.
          > >>
          > >> I did notice on phpedit's website that you will have to get some DLLs
          > >> from microsoft, they give you a link, before the program will work.
          > >>
          > >> -Michael[/color]
          > >
          > > I use PHPEdit on Windows XP and this does not need any extra dll files.
          > >[/color]
          >
          > On windows98 not XP it needs the additional files.[/color]


          I also use it in XP. PHPEdit is the best IDE for PHP (IMHO). The
          latest (enough) stable version has *many* & *many* good features. It
          has all the features of Zend + so many. For me, Zend is verrrrry slow;
          but PHPEdit is so fast. Apart from it's nice document plugins, the
          recent version has test case plugins and project manager plugins too.
          Very useful... Indeed free (but donation is much accepted). It is
          worth to download some dlls to work in Windows 98.

          As I already said, for Perl, the coolest editor I have ever seen is
          OptiPerl (<http://www.xarka.com/optiperl/features.html>) . We may not
          get such editor for PHP :-(


          --
          http://www.sendmetoindia.com - Send Me to India!
          Email: rrjanbiah-at-Y!com

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          • Tony Marston

            #20
            Re: PHP IDE or PHP editor


            "michaeln" <no@spam.please > wrote in message
            news:c42jou$5vj 3$8@news3.infoa ve.net...[color=blue]
            > Tony Marston wrote:
            >[color=green]
            > >
            > > "michaeln" <no@spam.please > wrote in message
            > > news:c40hsf$5vj 3$4@news3.infoa ve.net...[color=darkred]
            > >> Bernard Koninckx wrote:
            > >>
            > >> > My platform is Windows 98
            > >> >
            > >> > Bernard
            > >>
            > >> (1) Delete windows and install linux
            > >> (2) Kate
            > >>
            > >> ;)
            > >>
            > >> Ok, seriously when I was on windows I liked phpedit if you don't want[/color][/color][/color]
            to[color=blue][color=green][color=darkred]
            > >> spend a bundle on Dreamweaver. Although I am not sure how either will
            > >> run on Win98.
            > >>
            > >> I did notice on phpedit's website that you will have to get some DLLs
            > >> from microsoft, they give you a link, before the program will work.
            > >>
            > >> -Michael[/color]
            > >
            > > I use PHPEdit on Windows XP and this does not need any extra dll files.
            > >[/color]
            >
            > On windows98 not XP it needs the additional files.[/color]

            That is only because Microshaft did not include those files with the
            original version of their OS, therefore it is an OS problem not a PHPEdit
            problem.

            --
            Tony Marston

            This is Tony Marston's web site, containing personal information plus pages devoted to the Uniface 4GL development language, XML and XSL, PHP and MySQL, and a bit of COBOL




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            • Will

              #21
              Re: PHP IDE or PHP editor

              Which version is that?

              <snip>[color=blue]
              > Thelatest (enough) stable version has *many* & *many* good features.[/color]

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              • Jeffrey Silverman

                #22
                Re: PHP IDE or PHP editor

                On Fri, 26 Mar 2004 20:03:23 -0500, michaeln wrote:
                [color=blue]
                > Jeffrey Silverman wrote:
                >[color=green]
                >> On Fri, 26 Mar 2004 01:16:47 -0500, michaeln wrote:
                >>[color=darkred]
                >>> (2) Kate[/color]
                >>
                >> Quanta
                >>[/color]
                >
                > I like kate more. :)
                >
                > Although I will say Quanta has some nice features. I still prefer kate.
                > But I use kate for everything. CPP programs, Bash, PHP, PERL, whatever.
                >
                > Michael[/color]

                Actually, I use Vim for everything. Quanta has some nice autocomplete
                features, is all. (I don't think Kate does. Or does it?)

                I must note that when I tested Quanta it, for some reason,
                mangled/destroyed a project I was working on! I stopped using it. I don't
                know what happened or how, but I'm afraid to use Quanta now.

                I realize that is a bit of a contradictory statement to my initial
                one-word suggestion, but...well...

                Use Vim!

                --
                -------------------------
                | Jeffrey Silverman |
                | jeffrey-AT-jhu-DOT-edu|
                -------------------------

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                • A-B C.

                  #23
                  Re: PHP IDE or PHP editor

                  Jeffrey Silverman wrote:
                  [color=blue]
                  > On Fri, 26 Mar 2004 01:16:47 -0500, michaeln wrote:
                  >[color=green]
                  >> (2) Kate[/color]
                  >
                  > Quanta
                  >[/color]

                  In the past 12 months I wrote abut 100,000 lines of PHP for our JAYA123 web
                  service with Nedit http://www.nedit.org .

                  Al Canton
                  Adams-Blake Company, Inc.
                  ***
                  JAYA123 - the new web-based total-office system for the
                  small biz. Order entry, billing, bookkeeping, etc. for $14.95
                  a month. Everyone says "It's cool as a moose!!"
                  See why at:http://www.jaya123.com
                  ***


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                  • JVlad

                    #24
                    Re: PHP IDE or PHP editor

                    Have a look at this:

                    Hope it sheds some lights...
                    Original (printed version) contains some comparison charts where phped
                    beats zend studio 7.8 : 5.5

                    JV.

                    "Bernard Koninckx" <koninckxbernar d@excite.com> wrote in message news:<4062feff$ 0$2014$ba620e4c @news.skynet.be >...[color=blue]
                    > Hello everybody,
                    >
                    > I'm a newbie and I search a good editor or IDE for programming in PHP.
                    > If you have used some of these, could you make a comparison between those
                    > tools.
                    >
                    > TIA
                    >
                    > Bernard[/color]

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                    • Jussi Jumppanen

                      #25
                      Re: PHP IDE or PHP editor

                      Bernard Koninckx wrote:
                      [color=blue]
                      > I'm a newbie and I search a good editor or IDE for programming
                      > in PHP. If you have used some of these, could you make a comparison
                      > between those tools.[/color]

                      This will depends on the platform on which you develop. For a Windows
                      solution take a look at Zeus for Windows:

                      A powerful, feature packed, fully configurable IDE specifically designed for Windows developers....


                      Just some of the features include:

                      + Fully configurable syntax highlighting
                      + Project/workspace management
                      + Seamless FTP editing
                      + Integrated class browser
                      + Code completion and intelli-sensing
                      + Integrated version control using the Microsoft Source Code
                      Control (SCC) interface, including CVS integration.
                      + Quick Help context sensitive help engine

                      For example the Quick Help feature gives instant access to
                      the PHP CHM manual.

                      Jussi Jumppanen

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                      • michaeln

                        #26
                        Re: PHP IDE or PHP editor

                        Jeffrey Silverman wrote:
                        [color=blue]
                        > Actually, I use Vim for everything. Quanta has some nice autocomplete
                        > features, is all. (I don't think Kate does. Or does it?)
                        >
                        > I must note that when I tested Quanta it, for some reason,
                        > mangled/destroyed a project I was working on! I stopped using it. I don't
                        > know what happened or how, but I'm afraid to use Quanta now.
                        >
                        > I realize that is a bit of a contradictory statement to my initial
                        > one-word suggestion, but...well...
                        >
                        > Use Vim!
                        >[/color]

                        ROFL, That same thing happened to me when I tried using quanta. Completely
                        destroyed my entire project and all of its files. I haven't used it since.

                        Now Kate doesn't have autocomplete. I personally don't like the feature.
                        Well I better rephrase. I am pretty sure you can make it auto close
                        brackets etc. for you. But like I said I don't like using those kinds of
                        features. You might can get an autocomplete plugin but I am not sure.
                        Never looked.

                        What I do like about it is the project feature, the way it handles opened
                        files in the file list, the file directory, and most important. The built
                        in shell. :)

                        -Michael

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                        • Rob Allen

                          #27
                          Re: PHP IDE or PHP editor

                          In message <4062feff$0$201 4$ba620e4c@news .skynet.be>, Bernard Koninckx
                          <koninckxbernar d@excite.com> writes[color=blue]
                          >Hello everybody,
                          >
                          >I'm a newbie and I search a good editor or IDE for programming in PHP.
                          >If you have used some of these, could you make a comparison between those
                          >tools.
                          >
                          >TIA
                          >
                          >Bernard
                          >
                          >[/color]

                          Personally, I like UltraEdit. You can integrate the PHP extended CHM
                          help file into it too.

                          --
                          Rob

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                          • Mark Kuiphuis

                            #28
                            Re: PHP IDE or PHP editor

                            I can ask you what platform you use: Linux, MacOS, Winblows, etc..
                            Then find for the specific platform a PHP tool.

                            You can also go to www.eclipse.org and download Eclipse, together with
                            the PHP-coding plugin and have a development tool for those three
                            mentioned OS's.

                            They all have the same Look & Feel so, if for some reason you have to
                            migrate your development station to another platform, you don't have the
                            problem to get yourself used to a new development platform.

                            Mark.

                            P.S. Eclipse is developed by IBM and a lot of complementary parties and
                            available free for download.


                            Rob Allen wrote:
                            [color=blue]
                            > In message <4062feff$0$201 4$ba620e4c@news .skynet.be>, Bernard Koninckx
                            > <koninckxbernar d@excite.com> writes
                            >[color=green]
                            >> Hello everybody,
                            >>
                            >> I'm a newbie and I search a good editor or IDE for programming in PHP.
                            >> If you have used some of these, could you make a comparison between those
                            >> tools.
                            >>
                            >> TIA
                            >>
                            >> Bernard
                            >>
                            >>[/color]
                            >
                            > Personally, I like UltraEdit. You can integrate the PHP extended CHM
                            > help file into it too.
                            >[/color]

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                            • Andy Jeffries

                              #29
                              Re: PHP IDE or PHP editor

                              Bernard Koninckx wrote:[color=blue]
                              > I'm a newbie and I search a good editor or IDE for programming in PHP.
                              > If you have used some of these, could you make a comparison between those
                              > tools.[/color]

                              Although I've read further on that you are using Windows 98, I couldn't
                              let a thread go with a title like that without plugging:



                              Cheers,


                              Andy

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                              • Zurab Davitiani

                                #30
                                Re: PHP IDE or PHP editor

                                michaeln wrote:
                                [color=blue]
                                > Now Kate doesn't have autocomplete. I personally don't like the feature.
                                > Well I better rephrase. I am pretty sure you can make it auto close
                                > brackets etc. for you. But like I said I don't like using those kinds of
                                > features. You might can get an autocomplete plugin but I am not sure.
                                > Never looked.
                                >
                                > What I do like about it is the project feature, the way it handles opened
                                > files in the file list, the file directory, and most important. The built
                                > in shell. :)[/color]

                                You should try the new KDevelop 3.0. You can use kate as its editor, but
                                have a lot more GUI features in it - like better project support, class
                                view, function library view, optional autocomplete as you type function
                                names, function parameters tooltip when inside function parenthesis, etc.,
                                etc. It's a big improvement over previous kdevelop releases and works
                                nicely with PHP (among other languages).

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