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  • tony@tony.com
    #1

    About "posting" forms


    Is it possible to use the post method to send a form from PHP without
    having to put the form in a html page?

    <form action="https://www.mysite.com/cgi/incoming.php" method="post">
    <input type="hidden" name="data01" value="12">
    <input type="hidden" name="data02" value="rejected ">
    <input type="hidden" name="star" value="sirius">
    <input type="image" src="https://www.mysite.com/grid001/image1.gif"
    border="0" name="submit" alt="send data">
    </form>

    What I would like to do is make the use of this form as invisible to the
    user as possible by

    1. getting rid of the image (but then how do I "post" it)
    2. putting PHP variables into the value fields
    3. send the form

    The PHP variables are set up as in
    $data01 = 12;
    $data02 = 'rejected'
    etc
    then

    after just including it as in "include_once(' senddata.php'); the form
    above is in senddata.php and just gets posted

    I've been looking at this and can't see how without having to include the
    form on a html page. I looked at document.write but that again is
    javascript.

    Can this be done with just PHP?

    thanks

    tony


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    • Jerry Stuckle
      #2
      Re: About &quot;posting&q uot; forms

      tony@tony.com wrote:[color=blue]
      > Is it possible to use the post method to send a form from PHP without
      > having to put the form in a html page?
      >
      > <form action="https://www.mysite.com/cgi/incoming.php" method="post">
      > <input type="hidden" name="data01" value="12">
      > <input type="hidden" name="data02" value="rejected ">
      > <input type="hidden" name="star" value="sirius">
      > <input type="image" src="https://www.mysite.com/grid001/image1.gif"
      > border="0" name="submit" alt="send data">
      > </form>
      >
      > What I would like to do is make the use of this form as invisible to the
      > user as possible by
      >
      > 1. getting rid of the image (but then how do I "post" it)
      > 2. putting PHP variables into the value fields
      > 3. send the form
      >
      > The PHP variables are set up as in
      > $data01 = 12;
      > $data02 = 'rejected'
      > etc
      > then
      >
      > after just including it as in "include_once(' senddata.php'); the form
      > above is in senddata.php and just gets posted
      >
      > I've been looking at this and can't see how without having to include the
      > form on a html page. I looked at document.write but that again is
      > javascript.
      >
      > Can this be done with just PHP?
      >
      > thanks
      >
      > tony
      >
      >[/color]

      Tony,

      A form is an html construct - so not being in an html page is meaningless.

      Maybe if you tell us exactly what you're trying to accomplish we can give you
      other ideas.


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        • Paul Lautman
          #3
          Re: About &quot;posting&q uot; forms

          tony@tony.com wrote:[color=blue]
          > Is it possible to use the post method to send a form from PHP without
          > having to put the form in a html page?
          >
          > <form action="https://www.mysite.com/cgi/incoming.php" method="post">
          > <input type="hidden" name="data01" value="12">
          > <input type="hidden" name="data02" value="rejected ">
          > <input type="hidden" name="star" value="sirius">
          > <input type="image" src="https://www.mysite.com/grid001/image1.gif"
          > border="0" name="submit" alt="send data">
          > </form>
          >
          > What I would like to do is make the use of this form as invisible to
          > the user as possible by
          >
          > 1. getting rid of the image (but then how do I "post" it)
          > 2. putting PHP variables into the value fields
          > 3. send the form
          >
          > The PHP variables are set up as in
          > $data01 = 12;
          > $data02 = 'rejected'
          > etc
          > then
          >
          > after just including it as in "include_once(' senddata.php'); the form
          > above is in senddata.php and just gets posted
          >
          > I've been looking at this and can't see how without having to include
          > the form on a html page. I looked at document.write but that again is
          > javascript.
          >
          > Can this be done with just PHP?
          >
          > thanks
          >
          > tony[/color]

          The POST method is used to send data from a web page to the server so that
          you can use it in things like php variables.
          You don't need an image or even a button to submit a form. A text input box
          will work to submit a form just by pressing the enter key.
          What you need to do is to explain what you ultimately want to happen.


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            • Tom
              #4
              Re: About &quot;posting&q uot; forms


              <tony@tony.co m> wrote in message
              news:MPG.1ef0bd 3b934f949c9898c 5@news-text.blueyonder .co.uk...[color=blue]
              >
              > Is it possible to use the post method to send a form from PHP without
              > having to put the form in a html page?[/color]

              Unless I've failed to understand what you're after, you could use the CURL
              library.
              It allows you to call any web page (not necessarily a PHP page) from within
              your PHP.
              Make sure the "extension=php_ curl.dll" is uncommented in your PHP.ini.

              Something like this (which uses buffering to stop the returned web page
              being displayed)...
              ob_start();
              $ch = curl_init('http s://www.mysite.com/cgi/incoming.php');
              curl_setopt( $ch, CURLOPT_POST, true );
              curl_setopt( $ch, CURLOPT_POSTFIE LDS, 'data01=12&data 02=rejected');
              curl_exec($ch);
              $getinfo_result s = curl_getinfo($c h);
              curl_close( $ch );
              $return_page = ob_get_contents ();
              ob_end_clean();

              "$getinfo_resul ts" will give an array of information telling you if the page
              request was successful or not, and "$return_pa ge" will contain the full HTML
              of the request.

              Tom


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                • tony@tony.com
                  #5
                  Re: About &quot;posting&q uot; forms

                  In article <4ensg4F1fdeu6U 1@individual.ne t>, paul.lautman@bt internet.com
                  says...[color=blue]
                  > tony@tony.com wrote:[color=green]
                  > > Is it possible to use the post method to send a form from PHP without
                  > > having to put the form in a html page?
                  > >
                  > > <form action="https://www.mysite.com/cgi/incoming.php" method="post">[/color][/color]
                  [color=blue]
                  > What you need to do is to explain what you ultimately want to happen.
                  >[/color]

                  I'm sorry I assumed you could see what I want to do by looking at the
                  form action I posted

                  I want to send the data to another web server as if it had been posted
                  using the forms post method without having the form appear in the source
                  of the clients web page.

                  Looking at it another way I want to "post" the data without using the
                  form but it MUST be using the "post" method because thats how the
                  reciever is set up and I cant control that.

                  I already have the data I just want to use the post method to send it
                  without the client getting it as well.

                  I hope that explains it - I can't think of a way to say it any clearer.

                  tony




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                    • tony@tony.com
                      #6
                      Re: About &quot;posting&q uot; forms

                      In article <44870369$0$229 25$ed2619ec@ptn-nntp-reader01.plus.n et>,
                      tomhartlandREMO V@ETHISgmail.co m says...[color=blue]
                      >
                      > <tony@tony.co m> wrote in message
                      > news:MPG.1ef0bd 3b934f949c9898c 5@news-text.blueyonder .co.uk...[color=green]
                      > >
                      > > Is it possible to use the post method to send a form from PHP without
                      > > having to put the form in a html page?[/color]
                      >
                      > Unless I've failed to understand what you're after, you could use the CURL
                      > library.
                      > It allows you to call any web page (not necessarily a PHP page) from within
                      > your PHP.
                      > Make sure the "extension=php_ curl.dll" is uncommented in your PHP.ini.
                      >
                      > Something like this (which uses buffering to stop the returned web page
                      > being displayed)...
                      > ob_start();
                      > $ch = curl_init('http s://www.mysite.com/cgi/incoming.php');
                      > curl_setopt( $ch, CURLOPT_POST, true );
                      > curl_setopt( $ch, CURLOPT_POSTFIE LDS, 'data01=12&data 02=rejected');
                      > curl_exec($ch);
                      > $getinfo_result s = curl_getinfo($c h);
                      > curl_close( $ch );
                      > $return_page = ob_get_contents ();
                      > ob_end_clean();
                      >
                      > "$getinfo_resul ts" will give an array of information telling you if the page
                      > request was successful or not, and "$return_pa ge" will contain the full HTML
                      > of the request.
                      >
                      > Tom
                      >
                      >
                      >[/color]

                      Hi Tom - I think you do get the idea (from your buffering comment)
                      I've never heard of curl (I'm just getting over wasting loads of my time
                      with that pear rubbish)

                      I'll take a look at curl (assuming my service provider allows its use -
                      these people are very daft about what they do and dont allow sometimes)

                      thanks for the idea

                      tony

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                        • tony@tony.com
                          #7
                          Re: About &quot;posting&q uot; forms - An update for anyone interested


                          It turns out that you can use the Post method to send data as if it came
                          from a form easy enough - no other libraries etc are needed.

                          Just create a php script that writes a "POST" header then url encode what
                          would have been the form items names and values as the body and then use
                          PHP's fsockopen to send the data.

                          The remote end thinks it came from a form which is exactly what I needed.

                          Hope this helps anyone reading this.

                          tony

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