Make source unreadable

**David Walker** · Jul 16 '05, 10:51 PM

Re: Make source unreadable

> How do you make it source your source code is unreadable? I went to a[color=blue]
> website and tried to look at their source, and it came up blank. I
> then saved the file and got a message saying something about will not
> save properly but i saved it anyways. when i went to pull it up it
> was blank. i would like to do that to my site if possible!! could dy
> ecplain to me how it was done?[/color]

Not sure what that site you mention did, but theres certainly no easy and
reliable way to do it. The site source has to be visible otherwise the
browser could never load it - if the browser can read it it is always going
to be possible for a human to in some way or another (unless its Flash or a
Java applet or something similar).
You can make it more difficult just by writing the pages in a form that is
difficult for a human to read (ie no line breaks, no spaces where they
aren't needed, etc). They can easily get to it, but if its a big page and
all someone sees is a solid block of code then it can be off putting.
In my opinion though, you're wasting your time!

David

**JerryH** · Jul 16 '05, 10:51 PM

Re: Make source unreadable

I'm guessing here, but I "believe" that people are putting javascript that
intercepts some of the IE commands. I know this is done to prevent saving
images and I'm guessing it can be done to prevent saving pages as well.
Anyone care to comment on this?

Jerry

"Mike B" <meadmaker1977@ yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:7039e944.0 307191458.63ea5 c07@posting.goo gle.com...[color=blue]
> How do you make it source your source code is unreadable? I went to a
> website and tried to look at their source, and it came up blank. I
> then saved the file and got a message saying something about will not
> save properly but i saved it anyways. when i went to pull it up it
> was blank. i would like to do that to my site if possible!! could dy
> ecplain to me how it was done?
>
> TIA
> Mike B[/color]

**Default User** · Jul 16 '05, 10:51 PM

Re: Make source unreadable

Mike B wrote:[color=blue]
>
> How do you make it source your source code is unreadable? I went to a
> website and tried to look at their source, and it came up blank. I
> then saved the file and got a message saying something about will not
> save properly but i saved it anyways. when i went to pull it up it
> was blank. i would like to do that to my site if possible!! could dy
> ecplain to me how it was done?[/color]

URL?

Brian Rodenborn

**CC Zona** · Jul 16 '05, 10:51 PM

Re: Make source unreadable

In article <7039e944.03071 91458.63ea5c07@ posting.google. com>,
meadmaker1977@y ahoo.com (Mike B) wrote:
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> How do you make it source your source code is unreadable? I went to a
> website and tried to look at their source, and it came up blank.[/color]

Not possible. Scroll down. All the way down. Some authors try to make
their source look "blank" by inserting a bunch of whitespace before the
markup. But it's not possible for your web browser to render what it can't
see. At a minimum, there's a line or two--though it's possible that it's
merely enough to call some other <img> , <object>, <script>, or <frame>.

--
CC

**B\(\)_b** · Jul 16 '05, 10:51 PM

Re: Make source unreadable

"JerryH" <nospam@nowhere .com> wrote in message
news:ySkSa.7367 0$XV.5172984@tw ister.austin.rr .com...[color=blue]
> I'm guessing here, but I "believe" that people are putting javascript that
> intercepts some of the IE commands. I know this is done to prevent saving
> images and I'm guessing it can be done to prevent saving pages as well.
> Anyone care to comment on this?
>
> Jerry
>
>[/color]

Seen a few pages around that "try"to hide their HTML source by generating a
dialoge box that says not allowed on right click.

Is this what you are talking about ?

If so, it is still simple to circemvent. - simply go looking for the
temporary internet files on your hard drive, move them to a suitable folder
and open them with your favourite text editor. Se, not real hard was it ?

In reality, if it is html and it displays in the browser, you only slow down
someone from actually looking at the source and images within your page.

Bob in Aus

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>
> "Mike B" <meadmaker1977@ yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:7039e944.0 307191458.63ea5 c07@posting.goo gle.com...[color=green]
> > How do you make it source your source code is unreadable? I went to a
> > website and tried to look at their source, and it came up blank. I
> > then saved the file and got a message saying something about will not
> > save properly but i saved it anyways. when i went to pull it up it
> > was blank. i would like to do that to my site if possible!! could dy
> > ecplain to me how it was done?
> >
> > TIA
> > Mike B[/color]
>
>[/color]

**Mike B** · Jul 16 '05, 10:51 PM

Re: Make source unreadable

Thew website is Salesforce.com. I justed wanted to use their states
list information so I wouldn't have to type it in. I have a feeling
the person who said that java applets code couldn't be saved answered
my question of how they hid it. the page tag does say .jsp. Thanks
for everyones responses.

Mike B

**David Walker** · Jul 16 '05, 10:51 PM

Re: Make source unreadable

> Thew website is Salesforce.com. I justed wanted to use their states[color=blue]
> list information so I wouldn't have to type it in. I have a feeling
> the person who said that java applets code couldn't be saved answered
> my question of how they hid it. the page tag does say .jsp. Thanks
> for everyones responses.[/color]

Can't find the bit with US states, but a similar list of all the countries
could be similar to what you are talking about. I looked at the source, and
it does appear blank, but you can scroll down and the code is all there,
with the dropdown items listed in <option></option> tags. I can't see any
java applets used for the dropdowns, and the .jsp is just an alternative
extension to indicate that javascript is used.
Hope that helps - just scroll down and it should be there, or if its not
provide the exact link to the page you are talking about and i'll have
another look.

David

**Paul Liversidge** · Jul 16 '05, 10:51 PM

Re: Make source unreadable

meadmaker1977@y ahoo.com (Mike B) wrote in message news:<7039e944. 0307200352.16b0 588@posting.goo gle.com>...[color=blue]
> Thew website is Salesforce.com. I justed wanted to use their states
> list information so I wouldn't have to type it in. I have a feeling
> the person who said that java applets code couldn't be saved answered
> my question of how they hid it. the page tag does say .jsp. Thanks
> for everyones responses.[/color]

A .JSP page is a Java Server Page, another server side scripting
solution similar to PHP. The JSP code creates the HTML that is sent to
the browser. Note that JavaScript and Java are two unrelated languages
that confusingly share similar names.

You can protect HTML pages from most people by using JavaScript
encryption routines. If you Google for HTML Encrypt you'll find a few
that popup.

However, protecting HTML is unfair in my opinion. We have all honed
our skills by examining the source of other people's pages and
learning from them. I don't protect my HTML as it feels hypocritical
to steal from others but not allow others to steal from me. HTML has
limited commercial value to the author so why do it.

Paul

**R.Lange** · Jul 16 '05, 10:51 PM

Re: Make source unreadable

Mike B wrote:
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> Thew website is Salesforce.com. I justed wanted to use their states
> list information so I wouldn't have to type it in. I have a feeling
> the person who said that java applets code couldn't be saved answered
> my question of how they hid it. the page tag does say .jsp. Thanks
> for everyones responses.
>
> Mike B[/color]

Hmm... I can view the source just fine in Mozilla, using both
View->Page Source and right-click. There's a few lines of whitespace at
the top, but not enough to push the code down a pull page...

~ Ryan

**David Walker** · Jul 16 '05, 10:51 PM

Re: Make source unreadable

> with the dropdown items listed in <option></option> tags. I can't see any[color=blue]
> java applets used for the dropdowns, and the .jsp is just an alternative
> extension to indicate that javascript is used.[/color]

Oops - just realised that jsp indicated another server-side language is
used, not because of javascript.
Sorry for the confusion

David

**Bruno Desthuilliers** · Jul 16 '05, 10:51 PM

Re: Make source unreadable

Mike B wrote:[color=blue]
> How do you make it source your source code is unreadable?[/color]

Why would you do that anyway ?

Bruno

**Chris Morris** · Jul 16 '05, 10:51 PM

Re: Make source unreadable

paul_liversidge @hotmail.com (Paul Liversidge) writes:[color=blue]
> You can protect HTML pages from most people by using JavaScript
> encryption routines. If you Google for HTML Encrypt you'll find a few
> that popup.[/color]

Though they won't stop anyone actually determined to get at the
source, who can just modify the encryption routine slightly (for that
matter, I think there's a few browsers that will parse the JS before
displaying source), and will stop most if not all search engines as
well as users without Javascript.

--
Chris

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