Frames and Browser Reload Question

[David T. Ashley]

Hi,

I have an application where I use a left frame to navigate to another page
in the main frame. After I've done this, when I use "RELOAD" in the
browser, it goes back to the original page rather than the one I've
navigated to.

If you go to this page:

http://fboprimedevel.e3ft.com

Then choose "Flight Schedule" on the left navigation pane, then use RELOAD
in the browser, it goes back to the original page.

How do I change this?

Thanks, Dave Ashley

[John Dunlop]

Re: Frames and Browser Reload Question

David T. Ashley:
[color=blue]
> I have an application where I use a left frame to navigate to another page
> in the main frame. After I've done this, when I use "RELOAD" in the
> browser, it goes back to the original page rather than the one I've
> navigated to.
>
> How do I change this?[/color]

This is a concomitant of frames. Not much you can do, short of
giving each page in the main frame its own frameset (i.e., every
combination of left page and main page has a distinct URL).

If 'RELOAD' reloads the current URL and the current URL points to a
frameset, then it is the frameset that will be reloaded.

Comp.infosystem s.www.authoring.site-design.

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Jock

[Jiri Fogl]

Re: Frames and Browser Reload Question

The best advice is probably not to use frames - there are more problems
with them (i.e. accessibility - browse through framed page with cell
phone is a nightmare).

If you must use them, try using cookies or sessions. Every page in main
frame saves its name to the session or cookie. Main page (the one with
<frameset> and <frame> tags) will read this information and write the
appropriate src attribute of main frame.


David T. Ashley wrote:[color=blue]
> Hi,
>
> I have an application where I use a left frame to navigate to another page
> in the main frame. After I've done this, when I use "RELOAD" in the
> browser, it goes back to the original page rather than the one I've
> navigated to.
>
> If you go to this page:
>
> http://fboprimedevel.e3ft.com
>
> Then choose "Flight Schedule" on the left navigation pane, then use RELOAD
> in the browser, it goes back to the original page.
>
> How do I change this?
>
> Thanks, Dave Ashley
>
>
>[/color]

[David T. Ashley]

Re: Frames and Browser Reload Question

"Jiri Fogl" <xfoglj00@stud. fit.vutbr.cz> wrote in message
news:e1akkt$knc $1@boco.fee.vut br.cz...[color=blue]
> The best advice is probably not to use frames - there are more problems
> with them (i.e. accessibility - browse through framed page with cell phone
> is a nightmare).
>
> If you must use them, try using cookies or sessions. Every page in main
> frame saves its name to the session or cookie. Main page (the one with
> <frameset> and <frame> tags) will read this information and write the
> appropriate src attribute of main frame.
>[/color]

In a logical sense, I agree with you ... the behavior of the browser is not
guaranteed and it should reload the frameset.

The mystery to me is why Internet Explorer is apparently able to make such
good guesses most of the time.

For example, if you go to this web site:

http://www.metzgersaircraft.com/

and try the links on the left navigation bar (with Internet Explorer), then
use reload, you'll notice that it reloads the main frame as expected. I
know for sure that this site does not use cookies for frame status (I helped
them set it up). I can cite other sites with frames that behave the same
way with IE. (For example, http://webtools.e3ft.com/ and try the "htpasswd
generation" and then reload.)

So, IE is using cues that I'm not understanding to take a good guess ... but
it doesn't work on the development site I'm playing with. The question is
why.

Thank you for the suggestion about the cookies. That will definitely do the
trick if I can't figure out why IE works the way it does (and it is probably
better as it would work on other browsers, too). That suggestion will
definitely cure my problem. But the mystery remains ...

Thanks, Dave

[strawberry]

Re: Frames and Browser Reload Question

Just a thought, seeing as you're using php anyway, why not just forget
about frames and use an html table for your index instead, something
like this...

echo "<head>\n";
//get ready to load the selected page
if (isset($_GET['page']))

{
$page = $_GET['page'];
$suffix = '.php';
$ps = $page.$suffix;
}
else
{
$ps = 'home.php';
}
$page = ucwords($page);
echo "<html>\n";
echo "<head>\n";
echo "<title>Wel come to My $page Page</title>\n";

echo "</head>\n";

Your table might look something like this...

echo "<tr>\n";
echo "<td><a href='$PHP_SELF ?page=home'>Hom e</a></td>\n";
echo "</tr>\n";
echo "<tr>\n";
echo "<td><a href='$PHP_SELF ?page=news'>New s</a></td>\n";
echo "</tr>\n";
echo "<tr>\n";
echo "<td><a href='$PHP_SELF ?page=projects' >Projects</a></td>\n";
echo "</tr>\n";

and a table within one of these pages (in this case the Projects page)
might look something like this...

echo "<th><a title='Sort by this column'
href='$PHP_SELF ?key=project_no '>Project No</a></th>\n";

HTH

[Jerry Stuckle]

Re: Frames and Browser Reload Question

strawberry wrote:[color=blue]
> Just a thought, seeing as you're using php anyway, why not just forget
> about frames and use an html table for your index instead, something
> like this...
>
> echo "<head>\n";
> //get ready to load the selected page
> if (isset($_GET['page']))
>
> {
> $page = $_GET['page'];
> $suffix = '.php';
> $ps = $page.$suffix;
> }
> else
> {
> $ps = 'home.php';
> }
> $page = ucwords($page);
> echo "<html>\n";
> echo "<head>\n";
> echo "<title>Wel come to My $page Page</title>\n";
>
> echo "</head>\n";
>
> Your table might look something like this...
>
> echo "<tr>\n";
> echo "<td><a href='$PHP_SELF ?page=home'>Hom e</a></td>\n";
> echo "</tr>\n";
> echo "<tr>\n";
> echo "<td><a href='$PHP_SELF ?page=news'>New s</a></td>\n";
> echo "</tr>\n";
> echo "<tr>\n";
> echo "<td><a href='$PHP_SELF ?page=projects' >Projects</a></td>\n";
> echo "</tr>\n";
>
> and a table within one of these pages (in this case the Projects page)
> might look something like this...
>
> echo "<th><a title='Sort by this column'
> href='$PHP_SELF ?key=project_no '>Project No</a></th>\n";
>
> HTH
>[/color]

Or even better than tables, use CSS.

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