JavaScript to PHP?

[Randy Webb]

Re: JavaScript to PHP?

Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn said the following on 3/30/2006 12:35 PM:[color=blue]
> Tim Slattery wrote:
>[color=green]
>> "The Numerator" <alvin4jesus@gm ail.com> wrote:[color=darkred]
>>> I was just wondering that if it is possible to do almost anything you
>>> can do in JavaScript in PHP.[/color]
>> Javascript is (nearly always, anyway) run on the client.[/color]
>
> JavaScript, JScript, and other ECMAScript implementations are.
> There is no "Javascript ".[/color]

You really are as anal as you act sometimes.
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>> PHP is run on the server. That being the case, they do quite different
>> things.[/color]
>
> PHP can also run without a server.[/color]

Yeah, but it's worthless when you do.
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> A signature part is to be delimited by "-- ".[/color]

Obviously then, that wasn't a signature so it shouldn't be delimited by
anything.

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[Jerry Stuckle]

Re: JavaScript to PHP?

noone wrote:[color=blue]
> Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn wrote:
>
>
>[color=green]
>> PHP can also run without a server.[/color]
>
>
>
> That would be false. you cannot - start a browser
> connect to a remote http(s) service
> which responds with content
> then have that content interact and execute a local PHP script.
>[/color]

No, but PHP can run without a server. It runs just fine without Apache or IIS
as a batch job.

He didn't say you could start a browser with it, but you can connect to a remote
http(s) service and have it respond. The local script can then interact with
the retrieved data.
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> If PHP is interactively (or via a cron job etc...) running, the box on
> which it is running would be considered a server for that "applicatio n".
> I think you are confusing client-server paradigm vs. a server paradigm.
> PHP or even the remote server itself does not/cannot know that PHP is
> even running on our "client". And even if it could, that would be a
> HUGE security risk - which is why it cannot be done.
> PHP is a scripting language. It does work and sends a response to
> stdout. Where, in the context of a web server, stdout is the connection
> to a remote browser. In the context of a terminal session (or CMD prompt
> et. al.) stdout can be redirected to an output file or to the "terminal
> session". Typing the command "php file.php" (or whatever) means that
> you are executing it on this box. It does not interact with PHP on a
> remote box - therefore it is server only.
>[/color]

No, at that point PHP is running as an application. Period. If what you say
were true, a machine running *any* application would be a server. A C++ program
could do exactly the same thing the PHP program is doing, for instance. Is the
machine now a "server"? What if you're running a word processor (another
application)?

And no, it doesn't interact with PHP on a remote box. But it can interact with
a web server or similar, just like a browser can. And that doesn't make the
machine it's running on a server.

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[Jerry Stuckle]

Re: JavaScript to PHP?

Randy Webb wrote:[color=blue][color=green]
>>
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>> PHP can also run without a server.[/color]
>
>
> Yeah, but it's worthless when you do.
>[/color]

Not at all. I have a number of PHP scripts which do thing that don't require a
server. It works quite well as an application, also.


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[Ian Collins]

Re: JavaScript to PHP?

Randy Webb wrote:[color=blue][color=green]
>>
>> PHP can also run without a server.[/color]
>
>
> Yeah, but it's worthless when you do.
>[/color]
PHP is a scripting language, you can use it for whatever you like.
Running with a web sever is just one use.

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[Tim Streater]

Re: JavaScript to PHP?

In article <K9CdnStrneDExL HZnZ2dnUVZ_t6dn Z2d@comcast.com >,
Randy Webb <HikksNotAtHome @aol.com> wrote:
[color=blue]
> Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn said the following on 3/30/2006 12:35 PM:[color=green]
> > Tim Slattery wrote:
> >[color=darkred]
> >> "The Numerator" <alvin4jesus@gm ail.com> wrote:
> >>> I was just wondering that if it is possible to do almost anything you
> >>> can do in JavaScript in PHP.
> >> Javascript is (nearly always, anyway) run on the client.[/color]
> >
> > JavaScript, JScript, and other ECMAScript implementations are.
> > There is no "Javascript ".[/color]
>
> You really are as anal as you act sometimes.
>[color=green][color=darkred]
> >> PHP is run on the server. That being the case, they do quite different
> >> things.[/color]
> >
> > PHP can also run without a server.[/color]
>
> Yeah, but it's worthless when you do.[/color]

No, PHP from the command line is a very handy scripting langauge.

-- tim