Mail trouble

[bonfils]

I believe this question has been asked before, but I haven't found the
solution to it.

I've given up on the php mail() function (doesn't work fast enough for
sending large amounts of HTML mails).

Instead, I'd like to throw all my mails into the mail queue. I'm running
sendmail on freeBSD and imagine that I should be able to use the exec()
command.

Anyone has an idea?

Thanks in advance.

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[CountScubula]

Re: Mail trouble

"bonfils" <kim@bonfils.yo ur.underwear.co m> wrote in message
news:3ffebaf1$0 $27409$edfadb0f @dread16.news.t ele.dk...[color=blue]
> I believe this question has been asked before, but I haven't found the
> solution to it.
>
> I've given up on the php mail() function (doesn't work fast enough for
> sending large amounts of HTML mails).
>
> Instead, I'd like to throw all my mails into the mail queue. I'm running
> sendmail on freeBSD and imagine that I should be able to use the exec()
> command.
>
> Anyone has an idea?
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> --
> bonfils
> http://kim.bonfils.com
>
>[/color]

I have serveral idea, each differnt depeing on your needs, how many emails
are you trying to send?


--
Mike Bradley
http://www.gzentools.com -- free online php tools

[bonfils]

Re: Mail trouble

"CountScubu la" <me@scantek.hot mail.com> wrote:
[color=blue]
> I have serveral idea, each differnt depeing on your needs, how many emails
> are you trying to send?[/color]

Currently just over a thousand - but of course it would be nice if I didn't
have to worry about the amount.
The script runs fine using the mail() function on plain text emails - it's
HTML emails (around 20 KB) that makes the mail server malfunction.

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bonfils.

http://kim.bonfils.com

[CountScubula]

Re: Mail trouble

One of the things I do is to add a user to the mail server and in the
/home/username/ directory, create a file called .forward and put all the
email addresses in there. Then simple send an email to the user you just
added, the server will forward it to everyone on that list.

--
Mike Bradley
http://www.gzentools.com -- free online php tools
"bonfils" <kim@bonfils.my .underwear.com> wrote in message
news:3fffcdd4$0 $29405$edfadb0f @dread15.news.t ele.dk...[color=blue]
> "CountScubu la" <me@scantek.hot mail.com> wrote:
>[color=green]
> > I have serveral idea, each differnt depeing on your needs, how many[/color][/color]
emails[color=blue][color=green]
> > are you trying to send?[/color]
>
> Currently just over a thousand - but of course it would be nice if I[/color]
didn't[color=blue]
> have to worry about the amount.
> The script runs fine using the mail() function on plain text emails - it's
> HTML emails (around 20 KB) that makes the mail server malfunction.
>
> --
> bonfils.
> http://kim.bonfils.com
>
>[/color]

[Manuel Lemos]

Re: Mail trouble

Hello,

On 01/09/2004 12:28 PM, bonfils wrote:[color=blue]
> I believe this question has been asked before, but I haven't found the
> solution to it.
>
> I've given up on the php mail() function (doesn't work fast enough for
> sending large amounts of HTML mails).
>
> Instead, I'd like to throw all my mails into the mail queue. I'm running
> sendmail on freeBSD and imagine that I should be able to use the exec()
> command.
>
> Anyone has an idea?[/color]

If you are under Unix/Linux, your problem is most likely that you are
configuring your MTA to try to send messages immediately as opposed to
queue the message for later delivery.

In that case, if you are using sendmail in your server, it would be
better to switch for instance to qmail, but if you can't there are
options to instruct sendmail to defer deliveries until once your queue
is run to process your pending deliveries. This results in much faster
queueing.

You may want to take a look at this class for composing and sending
messages that comes with a sub-class specialized in delivering with
sendmail and has options to tell sendmail to defer your message deliveries.

http://www.phpclasses.org/mimemessage

--

Regards,
Manuel Lemos

Free ready to use OOP components written in PHP

http://www.phpclasses.org/

[bonfils]

Re: Mail trouble

"bonfils" <kim@bonfils.yo ur.underwear.co m> wrote:
[color=blue]
> I believe this question has been asked before, but I haven't found the
> solution to it.
>
> I've given up on the php mail() function (doesn't work fast enough for
> sending large amounts of HTML mails).
>
> Instead, I'd like to throw all my mails into the mail queue. I'm running
> sendmail on freeBSD and imagine that I should be able to use the exec()
> command.
>
> Anyone has an idea?[/color]

First of all: Thanks for your input. You've been very helpful.
However, I haven't had any luck yet.
My latest thought is this: Could this be achieved using the mail() function
and just changing the sendmail_path line in my php.ini file so that it sends
all mails to the queue?
However:

sendmail_path = /usr/sbin/sendmail -odq

doesn't work. The path is correct (it's FreeBSD), but the line above just
makes the mails disappear (not to the queue...)

Any ideas?

--
bonfils

http://kim.bonfils.com

[Ian.H]

Re: Mail trouble

On Mon, 12 Jan 2004 16:11:42 +0100, bonfils wrote:
[color=blue][color=green]
>> Instead, I'd like to throw all my mails into the mail queue. I'm running
>> sendmail on freeBSD and imagine that I should be able to use the exec()
>> command.
>>
>> Anyone has an idea?[/color]
>
> First of all: Thanks for your input. You've been very helpful. However, I
> haven't had any luck yet.
> My latest thought is this: Could this be achieved using the mail()
> function and just changing the sendmail_path line in my php.ini file so
> that it sends all mails to the queue?
> However:
>
> sendmail_path = /usr/sbin/sendmail -odq
>
> doesn't work. The path is correct (it's FreeBSD), but the line above just
> makes the mails disappear (not to the queue...)
>
> Any ideas?[/color]


While I don't particularly like the sound if this "it doesn't send batches
of HTML mail fast enough" (do I smell pork?).. mail() uses sendmail and
also uses the params you define in php.ini so changing that has no actual
input in the way you're after. If you want to use sendmail direct then you
need to feed sendmail itself. As you're on FBSD, try:


$ perldoc -q "How do I send mail?"


Yes it's Perl.. but it's the same method you'd use in PHP to
send mail to sendmail directly.

I'll leave the porting from Perl to PHP as an educational exercise.



Regards,

Ian

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Programming, Web design, development & hosting.

[CountScubula]

Re: Mail trouble

ok, here is another wacky solution.

write a small script that reads a text file of emails, and uses mail to send
them

the from your main script do this:

`php -q mailscript.php addys.txt &`;

this will cause the mailscript.php to run in the background.

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Mike Bradley
http://www.gzentools.com -- free online php tools
"bonfils" <kim@bonfils.yo ur.underwear.co m> wrote in message
news:3ffebaf1$0 $27409$edfadb0f @dread16.news.t ele.dk...[color=blue]
> I believe this question has been asked before, but I haven't found the
> solution to it.
>
> I've given up on the php mail() function (doesn't work fast enough for
> sending large amounts of HTML mails).
>
> Instead, I'd like to throw all my mails into the mail queue. I'm running
> sendmail on freeBSD and imagine that I should be able to use the exec()
> command.
>
> Anyone has an idea?
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> --
> bonfils
> http://kim.bonfils.com
>
>[/color]

[bonfils]

Re: Mail trouble

"CountScubu la" <me@scantek.hot mail.com> wrote:
[color=blue]
> ok, here is another wacky solution.
>
> write a small script that reads a text file of emails, and uses mail to[/color]
send[color=blue]
> them
>
> the from your main script do this:
>
> `php -q mailscript.php addys.txt &`;
>
> this will cause the mailscript.php to run in the background.[/color]

Looks cool. I'll just have to study a bit to find out what the command does.
(Especially the "&")
Problem is, I still have to generate every single email one at a time as it
includes a personal greeting and unsubscribe information. But having the
script run in the background makes sense.

--
bonfils

http://kim.bonfils.com

[CountScubula]

Re: Mail trouble

"bonfils" <kim@bonfils.yo ur.underwear.co m> wrote in message
news:4003abe5$0 $27359$edfadb0f @dread16.news.t ele.dk...[color=blue]
> "CountScubu la" <me@scantek.hot mail.com> wrote:
>[color=green]
> > ok, here is another wacky solution.
> >
> > write a small script that reads a text file of emails, and uses mail to[/color]
> send[color=green]
> > them
> >
> > the from your main script do this:
> >
> > `php -q mailscript.php addys.txt &`;
> >
> > this will cause the mailscript.php to run in the background.[/color]
>
> Looks cool. I'll just have to study a bit to find out what the command[/color]
does.[color=blue]
> (Especially the "&")
> Problem is, I still have to generate every single email one at a time as[/color]
it[color=blue]
> includes a personal greeting and unsubscribe information. But having the
> script run in the background makes sense.
>
> --
> bonfils
> http://kim.bonfils.com
>
>[/color]

the `` backticks : runs a shell command

php -q : just runs a script with no headers sent out

& : tells the shell to run this command in background

so,

`php -q scriptname.php addyfile.txt &`;

runs a shell command, php to run scriptname.php and pass the parameter
addyfile.txt, oh, and do this in the background.

--
Mike Bradley
http://www.gzentools.com -- free online php tools

[bonfils]

Re: Mail trouble

"CountScubu la" <me@scantek.hot mail.com> wrote:
[color=blue]
> the `` backticks : runs a shell command
>
> php -q : just runs a script with no headers sent out
>
> & : tells the shell to run this command in background
>
> so,
>
> `php -q scriptname.php addyfile.txt &`;
>
> runs a shell command, php to run scriptname.php and pass the parameter
> addyfile.txt, oh, and do this in the background.[/color]

Thanks.

;-)

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bonfils

http://kim.bonfils.com

[Geoff Berrow]

Re: Mail trouble

I noticed that Message-ID:
<MuQLb.2342$bw3 .944@newssvr29. news.prodigy.co m> from CountScubula
contained the following:
[color=blue]
>One of the things I do is to add a user to the mail server and in the
>/home/username/ directory, create a file called .forward and put all the
>email addresses in there. Then simple send an email to the user you just
>added, the server will forward it to everyone on that list.[/color]

Not much use if you want to customise the mail though.

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It's only Usenet, no one dies.
My opinions, not the committee's, mine.
Simple RFDs http://www.ckdog.co.uk/rfdmaker/

[CountScubula]

Re: Mail trouble

"Geoff Berrow" <blthecat@ckdog .co.uk> wrote in message
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> I noticed that Message-ID:
> <MuQLb.2342$bw3 .944@newssvr29. news.prodigy.co m> from CountScubula
> contained the following:
>[color=green]
> >One of the things I do is to add a user to the mail server and in the
> >/home/username/ directory, create a file called .forward and put all the
> >email addresses in there. Then simple send an email to the user you just
> >added, the server will forward it to everyone on that list.[/color]
>
> Not much use if you want to customise the mail though.
>
> --
> Geoff Berrow (put thecat out to email)
> It's only Usenet, no one dies.
> My opinions, not the committee's, mine.
> Simple RFDs http://www.ckdog.co.uk/rfdmaker/[/color]

This is tru, thats why its simple solution, not a complex, customize to your
needs type of solution

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Mike Bradley
http://www.gzentools.com -- free online php tools