Which would be more useful to learn, PHP or COLDFUSION? I know
Coldfusion is popular in the work force. Is PHP?
Thanks!
Coldfusion is popular in the work force. Is PHP?
Thanks!
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"English Teacher" <EnglishTeacher @ModernEnglish. com> wrote in message
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> Which would be more useful to learn, PHP or COLDFUSION? I know
> Coldfusion is popular in the work force. Is PHP?
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> Thanks![/color]
I don't know cold fusion and... considering this is a php newsgroup I don't
know how well you'll get an unbiased answer... however PHP is free and I
believe runs on alot more environments... I *think* coldfusion is limited to
a microsoft environment only... so while it (coldfusion) is popular I think
you'll find that PHP is just as popular (if not more so) because of its
cost, the availability of support, the documentation and the environments it
will run on. Before I got my Apache/Linux server running (on a
Pentium400mhz) I had Apache with PHP and MySQL on my Windoze98 266mhz
laptop. Migrating to a linux platform required little change...
I'm not anti-microsoft, but I think one is limiting themselves when they
pick up skillsets like ASP or VB because they are limited on their
platforms... and if you're going to teach yourself, they can be expensive
skills just to get them working in your own not-for-profit environment...
Hope that helps you decide...
laters
randelld
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English Teacher <EnglishTeacher @ModernEnglish. com> wrote:
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> Which would be more useful to learn, PHP or COLDFUSION? I know
> Coldfusion is popular in the work force. Is PHP?[/color]
Depends, but in doubt learn both.
JOn
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>I *think* coldfusion is limited to a microsoft environment only.
ColdFusion supports Windows, Linux, Solaris, HP-UX, AIX, and now its on a
Java base you can get it to work on the Mac aswell.
Which is better to learn all depends on what you really hope to get at.
There has been a lot of talk around newsgroups which is the better server
side language with each corner putting up a good fight.
ColdFusion MX is built upon a Java pltform so you can now, with no effort
access Java libararys and you can also host .JSP pages as well as servlets.
If i was you, personally i'd learn both, theres no point being stuck to just
one language, you are just limiting yourself that way. For more info though
check out http://www.macromedia.com/software/coldfusion/ and
http://www.php.net and all the forums as they are littered with this type of
question
Andy Jarrett
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EnglishTeacher@ ModernEnglish.c om (English Teacher) wrote in message news:<b06436f6. 0310202239.106b ee49@posting.go ogle.com>...[color=blue]
> Which would be more useful to learn, PHP or COLDFUSION?[/color]
Useful--- I don't know.
Cool --- PHP.
I have learnt few web scripting languages including Coldfusion, ASP, PHP...
But, only PHP attracted me well.
But, it seems Coldfusion programmers are paid higher than PHP programmers.
---
"If there is a God, he must be a sadist!"
Email: rrjanbiah-at-Y!com
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My God, I can't believe you people are responding to these posts... LOL...
"R. Rajesh Jeba Anbiah" <ng4rrjanbiah@r ediffmail.com> wrote in message
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> EnglishTeacher@ ModernEnglish.c om (English Teacher) wrote in message[/color]
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> > Which would be more useful to learn, PHP or COLDFUSION?[/color]
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> Useful--- I don't know.
>
> Cool --- PHP.
>
> I have learnt few web scripting languages including Coldfusion, ASP,[/color]
PHP...[color=blue]
> But, only PHP attracted me well.
>
> But, it seems Coldfusion programmers are paid higher than PHP[/color]
programmers.[color=blue]
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> "If there is a God, he must be a sadist!"
> Email: rrjanbiah-at-Y!com[/color]
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In article <gGclb.61$bN4.1 6751@news.uswes t.net>, "Todd L" <cuemanazNOSPAM 85257@yahoo.com > wrote:[color=blue]
>My God, I can't believe you people are responding to these posts... LOL...[/color]
*I* can't believe none of you guys trim the headers. This was crossposted to
three groups in the rec. heirarchy where it's off-topic. Please watch out for
crossposted troll posts, and trim irrelevant groups before you reply. Thanks.[color=blue]
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>"R. Rajesh Jeba Anbiah" <ng4rrjanbiah@r ediffmail.com> wrote in message
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>> EnglishTeacher@ ModernEnglish.c om (English Teacher) wrote in message[/color]
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>> > Which would be more useful to learn, PHP or COLDFUSION?[/color]
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>> Useful--- I don't know.
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>> Cool --- PHP.
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>> I have learnt few web scripting languages including Coldfusion, ASP,[/color]
>PHP...[color=green]
>> But, only PHP attracted me well.
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>> But, it seems Coldfusion programmers are paid higher than PHP[/color]
>programmers.[color=green]
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>> "If there is a God, he must be a sadist!"
>> Email: rrjanbiah-at-Y!com[/color]
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"R. Rajesh Jeba Anbiah" <ng4rrjanbiah@r ediffmail.com> wrote in message
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> EnglishTeacher@ ModernEnglish.c om (English Teacher) wrote in message[/color]
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> > Which would be more useful to learn, PHP or COLDFUSION?[/color]
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> Useful--- I don't know.
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> Cool --- PHP.
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> I have learnt few web scripting languages including Coldfusion, ASP,[/color]
PHP...[color=blue]
> But, only PHP attracted me well.
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> But, it seems Coldfusion programmers are paid higher than PHP[/color]
programmers.[color=blue]
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> ---
> "If there is a God, he must be a sadist!"
> Email: rrjanbiah-at-Y!com[/color]
not here
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Did the name of the group change? rec.photo.compu terlanguage?
"English Teacher" <EnglishTeacher @ModernEnglish. com> wrote in message
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> Which would be more useful to learn, PHP or COLDFUSION? I know
> Coldfusion is popular in the work force. Is PHP?
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> Thanks![/color]
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"Scott" <Withoutspam@no no.com> wrote in message
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> Did the name of the group change? rec.photo.compu terlanguage?
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> "English Teacher" <EnglishTeacher @ModernEnglish. com> wrote in message
> news:b06436f6.0 310202239.106be e49@posting.goo gle.com...[color=green]
> > Which would be more useful to learn, PHP or COLDFUSION? I know
> > Coldfusion is popular in the work force. Is PHP?
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> > Thanks![/color]
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shhh
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"English Teacher" <EnglishTeacher @ModernEnglish. com> wrote in message
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> Which would be more useful to learn, PHP or COLDFUSION? I know
> Coldfusion is popular in the work force. Is PHP?[/color]
Coldfusion is very easy to learn, due to it being tag based. For example to
query a database and display the results
<html>
<body>
<cfquery name="songlist" datasource="mp3 ">
SELECT title,artist,bi trate,genre,len gth FROM songs ORDER BY artist
</cfquery>
<table>
<cfoutput query="songlist ">
<tr>
<td>title= #songlist.title #</td>
<td>artist = #songlist.artis t#</td>
<td>genre = #songlist.genre #</td>
<td> bitrate = #songlist.bitra te#</td>
<td>lenght = #songlist.lengt h#</td>
</tr>
</cfoutput>
</table>
</body>
</html>
the above code would carry out a query on the coldfusion data source mp3,
storing the results in a recordset songlist. It would then loop through the
recordset displaying the title,artist,ge nre,bitrate and length fields of
each record in the recordset.
This a pretty trivial example, but it illustrates how easy coldfusion is to
use
advantages of coldfusion:
ease of use
very good integrated text search facility (Verity engine)
based on J2EE (coldfusion converts cfm pages into java which are the run
using the J2EE engine)
integrates well with flash
includes a number of built in systems for generating form validation, charts
and graphs automatically
disadvantages:
the first time a cfm page is called, it has to be converted to J2EE, after
that if the page is called again it can be retrieved from the coldfusion
server's cache.
mainly MS based
coldfusion server is quite expensive
CF hosting tends to be rarer and more expensive than for PHP
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"Richard Hockey" <richardhockey@ dsl.pipex.com> wrote in message
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> "English Teacher" <EnglishTeacher @ModernEnglish. com> wrote in message
> news:b06436f6.0 310202239.106be e49@posting.goo gle.com...[color=green]
> > Which would be more useful to learn, PHP or COLDFUSION? I know
> > Coldfusion is popular in the work force. Is PHP?[/color]
>
> Coldfusion is very easy to learn, due to it being tag based. For example[/color]
to[color=blue]
> query a database and display the results
>
> <html>
> <body>
> <cfquery name="songlist" datasource="mp3 ">
> SELECT title,artist,bi trate,genre,len gth FROM songs ORDER BY artist
> </cfquery>
>
> <table>
> <cfoutput query="songlist ">
> <tr>
> <td>title= #songlist.title #</td>
> <td>artist = #songlist.artis t#</td>
> <td>genre = #songlist.genre #</td>
> <td> bitrate = #songlist.bitra te#</td>
> <td>lenght = #songlist.lengt h#</td>
> </tr>
> </cfoutput>
> </table>
> </body>
> </html>
>
> the above code would carry out a query on the coldfusion data source mp3,
> storing the results in a recordset songlist. It would then loop through[/color]
the[color=blue]
> recordset displaying the title,artist,ge nre,bitrate and length fields of
> each record in the recordset.
>
> This a pretty trivial example, but it illustrates how easy coldfusion is[/color]
to[color=blue]
> use
>
> advantages of coldfusion:
> ease of use
> very good integrated text search facility (Verity engine)
> based on J2EE (coldfusion converts cfm pages into java which are the run
> using the J2EE engine)
> integrates well with flash
> includes a number of built in systems for generating form validation,[/color]
charts[color=blue]
> and graphs automatically
>
> disadvantages:
> the first time a cfm page is called, it has to be converted to J2EE, after
> that if the page is called again it can be retrieved from the coldfusion
> server's cache.
> mainly MS based
> coldfusion server is quite expensive
> CF hosting tends to be rarer and more expensive than for PHP
>[color=green]
> >
> > Thanks![/color]
>
>[/color]
shhhh
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>disadvantage s:[color=blue]
>the first time a cfm page is called, it has to be converted to J2EE, after
>that if the page is called again it can be retrieved from the coldfusion
>server's cache.[/color]
The "compilatio n" hit is not so bad on CFMX61 (cf CFMX60, that is).
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>mainly MS based[/color]
I can only speak for our own clients, but they tend to want to go for
Linux (as do we, because - as we all know - Windows is flaky as
buggery).
We started on Windows servers because it's what we know, but now that
we've got a handle on Linux (well... kind of... enough for us to get
by, anyhow), we tend towards that.
I reckon prior to CFMX61, even though I'm a CF programmer, I would
have preferred PHP as a language. Now I'm not so sure.
CFMX60 was a bit immature, but the whole "sits atop of J2EE" was a
really excellent move, and it's pretty stable now on CFMX61 (for the
most part ;-). We do all our basic RAD stuff in CF, and for anything
more complicated, do it in Java. A nice combo.
Adam
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ColdFusion runs on Unix/Linux, too. Not just Windows. It works fine with
either Apache or IIS.
It's a much more complete package. It works, right out of the box. It's much
easier to learn.
FWIW, I learned PHP before moving to ColdFusion. PHP has a lot going for it.
Much more useful than, say, Perl in a web environment.
But the differences between PHP and CF are enormous. Many things for which
you'd write mountains of code in PHP (or Java or Perl) are just a few clicks
in Dreamweaver/ColdFusion. The productivity gains outweigh the cost of the
product.
Both have large followings. Both have user-contributed offerings.
I just think that a commercial enterprise is better off with a more complete
package. So I'd go with CF.
"English Teacher" <EnglishTeacher @ModernEnglish. com> wrote in message
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> Which would be more useful to learn, PHP or COLDFUSION? I know
> Coldfusion is popular in the work force. Is PHP?
>
> Thanks![/color]
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Yeah, I saw that.
I trimmed out three ng's in my earlier reply, leaving only the php and CF
groups.
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<cuemanazNOSPAM 85257@yahoo.com > wrote:[color=blue][color=green]
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LOL...[color=blue]
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> *I* can't believe none of you guys trim the headers. This was crossposted[/color]
to[color=blue]
> three groups in the rec. heirarchy where it's off-topic. Please watch out[/color]
for[color=blue]
> crossposted troll posts, and trim irrelevant groups before you reply.[/color]
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> >"R. Rajesh Jeba Anbiah" <ng4rrjanbiah@r ediffmail.com> wrote in message
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> >news:<b06436f6 .0310202239.106 bee49@posting.g oogle.com>...[color=darkred]
> >> > Which would be more useful to learn, PHP or COLDFUSION?
> >>
> >> Useful--- I don't know.
> >>
> >> Cool --- PHP.
> >>
> >> I have learnt few web scripting languages including Coldfusion,[/color][/color][/color]
ASP,[color=blue][color=green]
> >PHP...[color=darkred]
> >> But, only PHP attracted me well.
> >>
> >> But, it seems Coldfusion programmers are paid higher than PHP[/color]
> >programmers.[color=darkred]
> >>
> >> ---
> >> "If there is a God, he must be a sadist!"
> >> Email: rrjanbiah-at-Y!com[/color]
> >
> >[/color][/color]
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