F12 doesn't quite work

**Randell D.** · Jul 17 '05, 12:14 AM

Re: F12 doesn't quite work

"mimages" <mimages@NOSPAM spvision.com> wrote in message
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> I press F12, and the page displays locally, but the included files (PHP)
> don't get included. I could've sworn it was working, once upon a time.[/color]
Now,[color=blue]
> it just shows everything else in the page minus the included file(s). Any
> advice?
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
>
>[/color]

What on earth are you talking about with regards to F12? You'll have to put
more meat on the bones of your question...

And what do you mean that the included files don't get included?

If you expect to "View Source" on your browser, and be able to see your PHP
code, then then there's nothing wrong. PHP is a server side language that
gets parsed *on the server* and you see the results *on the client*.

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**Geoff Berrow** · Jul 17 '05, 12:14 AM

Re: F12 doesn't quite work

I noticed that Message-ID: <hO8db.18572$O8 5.7122@pd7tw1no > from Randell
D. contained the following:
[color=blue]
>What on earth are you talking about with regards to F12? You'll have to put
>more meat on the bones of your question...[/color]

It could be a reference to Dreamweaver. F12 previews in browser.

Is the server installed and running?

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**Paul Liversidge** · Jul 17 '05, 12:14 AM

Re: F12 doesn't quite work

"mimages" <mimages@NOSPAM spvision.com> wrote in message news:<Yi5db.346 07$Ci5.805282@t wister.tampabay .rr.com>...[color=blue]
> I press F12, and the page displays locally, but the included files (PHP)
> don't get included. I could've sworn it was working, once upon a time. Now,
> it just shows everything else in the page minus the included file(s). Any
> advice?
>
> Thanks in advance.[/color]

I'm assuming you mean Dreamweaver.

You need to go to Edit | Preferences | Site and ensure that the
'dependent files' boxes are checked. Pressing F12 puts the current
file to the test server but not any dependent, i.e. included, files.
They have to be put manually if this option is unchecked.

Paul

**mimages** · Jul 17 '05, 12:15 AM

Re: F12 doesn't quite work

Sorry, and thanks for catching my mistake. I do mean Dreamweaver. I checked
the preferences, and all the boxes you mentioned are checked. The testing
server is local, and I thought it would display the files properly. I've
done this in creation of ASP files, and it works just fine. I don't know why
the problem is occuring since I started doing PHP development.

Any other ideas?

Thanks in advance.

"Paul Liversidge" <paul_liversidg e@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> "mimages" <mimages@NOSPAM spvision.com> wrote in message[/color]
news:<Yi5db.346 07$Ci5.805282@t wister.tampabay .rr.com>...[color=blue][color=green]
> > I press F12, and the page displays locally, but the included files (PHP)
> > don't get included. I could've sworn it was working, once upon a time.[/color][/color]
Now,[color=blue][color=green]
> > it just shows everything else in the page minus the included file(s).[/color][/color]
Any[color=blue][color=green]
> > advice?
> >
> > Thanks in advance.[/color]
>
> I'm assuming you mean Dreamweaver.
>
> You need to go to Edit | Preferences | Site and ensure that the
> 'dependent files' boxes are checked. Pressing F12 puts the current
> file to the test server but not any dependent, i.e. included, files.
> They have to be put manually if this option is unchecked.
>
> Paul
>[/color]

**mimages** · Jul 17 '05, 12:15 AM

Re: F12 doesn't quite work

Yes, I'm sorry, I am referring to Dreamweaver. I have done ASP development
without actually having to install the personal web server, so I thought I
would need no special installation for PHP development. I guess I'm wrong. I
really don't know what needs to be installed, though.

Any ideas?

Thanks

"Geoff Berrow" <bl@ckdog.co.uk .the.cat> wrote in message
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> I noticed that Message-ID: <hO8db.18572$O8 5.7122@pd7tw1no > from Randell
> D. contained the following:
>[color=green]
> >What on earth are you talking about with regards to F12? You'll have to[/color][/color]
put[color=blue][color=green]
> >more meat on the bones of your question...[/color]
>
> It could be a reference to Dreamweaver. F12 previews in browser.
>
> Is the server installed and running?
>
> --
> Geoff Berrow
> It's only Usenet, no one dies.
> My opinions, not the committee's, mine.
> Simple RFDs http://www.ckdog.co.uk/rfdmaker/
>[/color]

**Geoff Berrow** · Jul 17 '05, 12:15 AM

Re: F12 doesn't quite work

I noticed that Message-ID:
<RhHdb.42404$Ci 5.1096170@twist er.tampabay.rr. com> from mimages contained
the following:
[color=blue]
>Yes, I'm sorry, I am referring to Dreamweaver. I have done ASP development
>without actually having to install the personal web server, so I thought I
>would need no special installation for PHP development. I guess I'm wrong. I
>really don't know what needs to be installed, though.
>
>Any ideas?[/color]

I don't usually bother. I simply use the 'put' command to upload the
page I'm working on then view it from my webserver. That way I /know/
it's going to work.

If you want to, you can install Apache, PHP, PHP,MYAdmin and MySQL all
in one easy hit. Go to http://www.firepages.com.au and click PHPDEV
bundles 423 is the latest.

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**mimages** · Jul 17 '05, 12:15 AM

Re: F12 doesn't quite work

Bummers. I was hoping to avoid installing a bunch of stuff on this system.
Wanted to keep it clean. I'll probably to the put deal, I just wanted to
check it locally before potentially messing up a good page with a wanna-be
better one, until I was sure it was good.

"Geoff Berrow" <bl@ckdog.co.uk .the.cat> wrote in message
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> I noticed that Message-ID:
> <RhHdb.42404$Ci 5.1096170@twist er.tampabay.rr. com> from mimages contained
> the following:
>[color=green]
> >Yes, I'm sorry, I am referring to Dreamweaver. I have done ASP[/color][/color]
development[color=blue][color=green]
> >without actually having to install the personal web server, so I thought[/color][/color]
I[color=blue][color=green]
> >would need no special installation for PHP development. I guess I'm[/color][/color]
wrong. I[color=blue][color=green]
> >really don't know what needs to be installed, though.
> >
> >Any ideas?[/color]
>
> I don't usually bother. I simply use the 'put' command to upload the
> page I'm working on then view it from my webserver. That way I /know/
> it's going to work.
>
> If you want to, you can install Apache, PHP, PHP,MYAdmin and MySQL all
> in one easy hit. Go to http://www.firepages.com.au and click PHPDEV
> bundles 423 is the latest.
>
>
> --
> Geoff Berrow
> It's only Usenet, no one dies.
> My opinions, not the committee's, mine.
> Simple RFDs http://www.ckdog.co.uk/rfdmaker/
>[/color]

**Ed Clarke** · Jul 17 '05, 12:15 AM

Re: F12 doesn't quite work

In article <x9Ldb.43307$Ci 5.1127784@twist er.tampabay.rr. com>, mimages wrote:[color=blue]
> Bummers. I was hoping to avoid installing a bunch of stuff on this system.
> Wanted to keep it clean. I'll probably to the put deal, I just wanted to
> check it locally before potentially messing up a good page with a wanna-be
> better one, until I was sure it was good.[/color]

Why aren't you using the testing server feature of Dreamweaver? It can stuff
things off into a non-public subdirectory for testing.

**Geoff Berrow** · Jul 17 '05, 12:15 AM

Re: F12 doesn't quite work

I noticed that Message-ID:
<x9Ldb.43307$Ci 5.1127784@twist er.tampabay.rr. com> from mimages contained
the following:
[color=blue]
>Bummers. I was hoping to avoid installing a bunch of stuff on this system.
>Wanted to keep it clean. I'll probably to the put deal, I just wanted to
>check it locally before potentially messing up a good page with a wanna-be
>better one, until I was sure it was good.[/color]

Then make a copy in a subdirectory.

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**mimages** · Jul 17 '05, 12:16 AM

Re: F12 doesn't quite work

One of the nice things about using the F12 feature to check your page is
that it's nice and quick. I guess I can just as easily use the testing
server feature and be patient. It's just so easy to get anal when something
works differently all of a sudden.

I'll get over it.

Thanks.

"Ed Clarke" <clarke@cilia.o rg> wrote in message
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> In article <x9Ldb.43307$Ci 5.1127784@twist er.tampabay.rr. com>, mimages[/color]
wrote:[color=blue][color=green]
> > Bummers. I was hoping to avoid installing a bunch of stuff on this[/color][/color]
system.[color=blue][color=green]
> > Wanted to keep it clean. I'll probably to the put deal, I just wanted to
> > check it locally before potentially messing up a good page with a[/color][/color]
wanna-be[color=blue][color=green]
> > better one, until I was sure it was good.[/color]
>
> Why aren't you using the testing server feature of Dreamweaver? It can[/color]
stuff[color=blue]
> things off into a non-public subdirectory for testing.
>[/color]

**Geoff Berrow** · Jul 17 '05, 12:16 AM

Re: F12 doesn't quite work

I noticed that Message-ID:
<975eb.24817$Of 2.1368496@twist er.tampabay.rr. com> from mimages contained
the following:
[color=blue]
>One of the nice things about using the F12 feature to check your page is
>that it's nice and quick. I guess I can just as easily use the testing
>server feature and be patient. It's just so easy to get anal when something
>works differently all of a sudden.[/color]

I'm so used to put, save, refresh that I don't think about it anymore.
LOL.

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**medi** · Jul 17 '05, 12:17 AM

Re: F12 doesn't quite work

"mimages" <mimages@NOSPAM spvision.com> wrote in message
news:XfHdb.4239 5$Ci5.1093911@t wister.tampabay .rr.com...[color=blue]
> Sorry, and thanks for catching my mistake. I do mean Dreamweaver. I[/color]
checked[color=blue]
> the preferences, and all the boxes you mentioned are checked. The testing
> server is local, and I thought it would display the files properly. I've
> done this in creation of ASP files, and it works just fine. I don't know[/color]
why[color=blue]
> the problem is occuring since I started doing PHP development.
>
> Any other ideas?
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
>
> "Paul Liversidge" <paul_liversidg e@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:bf26a194.0 309270716.4cd49 57f@posting.goo gle.com...[color=green]
> > "mimages" <mimages@NOSPAM spvision.com> wrote in message[/color]
> news:<Yi5db.346 07$Ci5.805282@t wister.tampabay .rr.com>...[color=green][color=darkred]
> > > I press F12, and the page displays locally, but the included files[/color][/color][/color]
(PHP)[color=blue][color=green][color=darkred]
> > > don't get included. I could've sworn it was working, once upon a time.[/color][/color]
> Now,[color=green][color=darkred]
> > > it just shows everything else in the page minus the included file(s).[/color][/color]
> Any[color=green][color=darkred]
> > > advice?
> > >
> > > Thanks in advance.[/color]
> >
> > I'm assuming you mean Dreamweaver.
> >
> > You need to go to Edit | Preferences | Site and ensure that the
> > 'dependent files' boxes are checked. Pressing F12 puts the current
> > file to the test server but not any dependent, i.e. included, files.
> > They have to be put manually if this option is unchecked.
> >
> > Paul[/color][/color]

The easiest way is (if you're on Win XP) to install IIS (Internet
Information Services) which is the part of Win installation and can be found
on Win CD, and just add PHP extensions to it. Then you define your testing
server folder in Dreamweaver which will be the root folder of your local
webserver (or its subdirectory). So, now when you press F12 all your dynamic
PHP code will be processed by your local server and you dont need to worry
about that, it's just that easy.

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