PHP and FRAMES?

**Beauregard T. Shagnasty** · Jul 17 '05, 01:10 PM

Re: PHP and FRAMES?

Dave Moore wrote:[color=blue]
> Hi All, I'm developing a website which incorporates a header
> section at the top, side areas and a central area. If I was
> developing the site with straight HTML, I'd simply use FRAMES.[/color]

Google for: frames are evil

Then, look at some simple HTML for a typical three-column page.

Page not found – BenMeadowcroft.com

http://www.benmeadowcroft.com/webdev/csstemplates/3-column.html

You can output the HTML with your PHP code, of course.

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**chotiwallah** · Jul 17 '05, 01:11 PM

Re: PHP and FRAMES?

well, you'd have to strip out the header and body tag from the 3rd
party pages.

read the page into a string, looks something like that:

<html>
<head>
//head content
</head>
<body>
//body content
</body>
<html>

you're interested in anything between the body tags.
you could use some regex to extract anything between <body (note the
missing >, there might be style information) and </body>.
i'm not an expert on regex, but it could be formulated to find text
between the body tags, but excluding the tags itself. maybe post it as
a question here.

but: you would quite likely stripping out their css and javascript too,
which is likely to be in the head section. no problem with css, class
attributes are just ignored if no stylesheet is present, but you could
be looking at a lot of javascript errors that way.

micha

**Five Cats** · Jul 17 '05, 01:12 PM

Re: PHP and FRAMES?

In message <p%Rhe.35104$ia 6.20508@twister .nyroc.rr.com>, Beauregard T.
Shagnasty <a.nony.mous@ex ample.invalid> writes[color=blue]
>Dave Moore wrote:[color=green]
>> Hi All, I'm developing a website which incorporates a header
>> section at the top, side areas and a central area. If I was
>> developing the site with straight HTML, I'd simply use FRAMES.[/color]
>
>Google for: frames are evil
>
>Then, look at some simple HTML for a typical three-column page.
>http://www.benmeadowcroft.com/webdev.../3-column.html
>
>You can output the HTML with your PHP code, of course.[/color]

He will still have the same problem even if there are no frames in the
output - he wants to incorporate outside files that include <HEAD> and
so on.[color=blue]
>[/color]

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**Tom Scales** · Jul 17 '05, 01:12 PM

Re: PHP and FRAMES?

"Five Cats" <cats_spam@[127.0.0.1]> wrote in message
news:n8$EYPAdzZ iCFwUa@[127.0.0.1]...[color=blue]
> In message <p%Rhe.35104$ia 6.20508@twister .nyroc.rr.com>, Beauregard T.
> Shagnasty <a.nony.mous@ex ample.invalid> writes[color=green]
>>Dave Moore wrote:[color=darkred]
>>> Hi All, I'm developing a website which incorporates a header
>>> section at the top, side areas and a central area. If I was
>>> developing the site with straight HTML, I'd simply use FRAMES.[/color]
>>
>>Google for: frames are evil
>>
>>Then, look at some simple HTML for a typical three-column page.
>>http://www.benmeadowcroft.com/webdev.../3-column.html
>>
>>You can output the HTML with your PHP code, of course.[/color]
>
> He will still have the same problem even if there are no frames in the
> output - he wants to incorporate outside files that include <HEAD> and so
> on.[color=green]
>>[/color]
>
> --
> Five Cats
> Email to: cats_spam at uk2 dot net[/color]

Why not just imbed an IFRAME? I use them in my PHP generated code and
include other HTML files. Works fine.

Tom

**Beauregard T. Shagnasty** · Jul 17 '05, 01:12 PM

Re: PHP and FRAMES?

Five Cats wrote:[color=blue]
> In message <p%Rhe.35104$ia 6.20508@twister .nyroc.rr.com>, Beauregard
> T. Shagnasty <a.nony.mous@ex ample.invalid> writes
>[color=green]
>> Dave Moore wrote:
>>[color=darkred]
>>> Hi All, I'm developing a website which incorporates a header
>>> section at the top, side areas and a central area. If I was
>>> developing the site with straight HTML, I'd simply use FRAMES.[/color]
>>
>> Google for: frames are evil
>>
>> Then, look at some simple HTML for a typical three-column page.
>> http://www.benmeadowcroft.com/webdev.../3-column.html
>>
>> You can output the HTML with your PHP code, of course.[/color]
>
> He will still have the same problem even if there are no frames in
> the output - he wants to incorporate outside files that include
> <HEAD> and so on.[/color]

All my sites incorporate "outside" files, including the <HEAD>. It
works the champ, and I can change it for the whole site in one swell
foop. <title>$pagetit le</title> is a variable passed to it, of course.

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**Dave Moore** · Jul 17 '05, 01:13 PM

Re: PHP and FRAMES?

"Beauregard T. Shagnasty" <a.nony.mous@ex ample.invalid> wrote in message
news:0snie.3313 2$eU.3433@twist er.nyroc.rr.com ...[color=blue]
> Five Cats wrote:[color=green]
> > In message <p%Rhe.35104$ia 6.20508@twister .nyroc.rr.com>, Beauregard
> > T. Shagnasty <a.nony.mous@ex ample.invalid> writes
> >[color=darkred]
> >> Dave Moore wrote:
> >>
> >>> Hi All, I'm developing a website which incorporates a header
> >>> section at the top, side areas and a central area. If I was
> >>> developing the site with straight HTML, I'd simply use FRAMES.
> >>
> >> Google for: frames are evil
> >>
> >> Then, look at some simple HTML for a typical three-column page.
> >> http://www.benmeadowcroft.com/webdev.../3-column.html
> >>
> >> You can output the HTML with your PHP code, of course.[/color]
> >
> > He will still have the same problem even if there are no frames in
> > the output - he wants to incorporate outside files that include
> > <HEAD> and so on.[/color]
>
> All my sites incorporate "outside" files, including the <HEAD>.[/color]

I'm sure that this can't be right. If you write a file out in HTML using
PHP, then it will already have the normal HTML tags, like <HTML>, <HEAD> and
<BODY>, etc. How can I introduce a FULL 3rd party HTML file into this page
without first stripping this information out first?. Clearly simply
'include()'ing it will result in a page with 2 lots of these tags which is
clearly not compliant.

Regards

**Dave Moore** · Jul 17 '05, 01:13 PM

Re: PHP and FRAMES?

"Tom Scales" <tomtoo@softhom e.net> wrote in message
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>
> "Five Cats" <cats_spam@[127.0.0.1]> wrote in message
> news:n8$EYPAdzZ iCFwUa@[127.0.0.1]...[color=green]
> > In message <p%Rhe.35104$ia 6.20508@twister .nyroc.rr.com>, Beauregard T.
> > Shagnasty <a.nony.mous@ex ample.invalid> writes[color=darkred]
> >>Dave Moore wrote:
> >>> Hi All, I'm developing a website which incorporates a header
> >>> section at the top, side areas and a central area. If I was
> >>> developing the site with straight HTML, I'd simply use FRAMES.
> >>
> >>Google for: frames are evil
> >>
> >>Then, look at some simple HTML for a typical three-column page.
> >>http://www.benmeadowcroft.com/webdev.../3-column.html
> >>
> >>You can output the HTML with your PHP code, of course.[/color]
> >
> > He will still have the same problem even if there are no frames in the
> > output - he wants to incorporate outside files that include <HEAD> and[/color][/color]
so[color=blue][color=green]
> > on.[color=darkred]
> >>[/color]
> >
> > --
> > Five Cats
> > Email to: cats_spam at uk2 dot net[/color]
>
> Why not just imbed an IFRAME? I use them in my PHP generated code and
> include other HTML files. Works fine.[/color]

I did think about IFRAMES, but I was a bit worried about support in non-IE
browsers. Do Firefox and Netscale handle IFRAMES OK?.

**Els** · Jul 17 '05, 01:13 PM

Re: PHP and FRAMES?

Dave Moore wrote:
[color=blue]
> "Beauregard T. Shagnasty" <a.nony.mous@ex ample.invalid> wrote in message
> news:0snie.3313 2$eU.3433@twist er.nyroc.rr.com ...[color=green]
>> Five Cats wrote:[color=darkred]
>>> In message <p%Rhe.35104$ia 6.20508@twister .nyroc.rr.com>, Beauregard
>>> T. Shagnasty <a.nony.mous@ex ample.invalid> writes
>>>
>>>> Dave Moore wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi All, I'm developing a website which incorporates a header
>>>>> section at the top, side areas and a central area. If I was
>>>>> developing the site with straight HTML, I'd simply use FRAMES.
>>>>
>>>> Google for: frames are evil
>>>>
>>>> Then, look at some simple HTML for a typical three-column page.
>>>> http://www.benmeadowcroft.com/webdev.../3-column.html
>>>>
>>>> You can output the HTML with your PHP code, of course.
>>>
>>> He will still have the same problem even if there are no frames in
>>> the output - he wants to incorporate outside files that include
>>> <HEAD> and so on.[/color]
>>
>> All my sites incorporate "outside" files, including the <HEAD>.[/color]
>
> I'm sure that this can't be right. If you write a file out in HTML using
> PHP, then it will already have the normal HTML tags, like <HTML>, <HEAD> and
> <BODY>, etc. How can I introduce a FULL 3rd party HTML file into this page
> without first stripping this information out first?. Clearly simply
> 'include()'ing it will result in a page with 2 lots of these tags which is
> clearly not compliant.[/color]

file.php:
<?php include "bla.txt" ?>

bla.txt:
<html>
<head>
<title..... etc etc.

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**Beauregard T. Shagnasty** · Jul 17 '05, 01:13 PM

Re: PHP and FRAMES?

Els wrote:[color=blue]
> Dave Moore wrote:
>
>[color=green]
>> "Beauregard T. Shagnasty" <a.nony.mous@ex ample.invalid> wrote[color=darkred]
>>>>> You can output the HTML with your PHP code, of course.
>>>>
>>> All my sites incorporate "outside" files, including the <HEAD>.[/color]
>>
>> I'm sure that this can't be right. If you write a file out in
>> HTML using PHP, then it will already have the normal HTML tags,
>> like <HTML>, <HEAD> and <BODY>, etc. How can I introduce a FULL
>> 3rd party HTML file into this page without first stripping this
>> information out first?. Clearly simply 'include()'ing it will
>> result in a page with 2 lots of these tags which is clearly not
>> compliant.[/color]
>
> file.php: <?php include "bla.txt" ?>[/color]

Just prior to the include, I use:
$txttitle = "Specific Title For This Page";
[color=blue]
> bla.txt:
> <html>
> <head>
> <title..... etc etc.[/color]

...where <title> is: <title><?php echo $txttitle ?></title>

It goes on to include all standard <meta> elements, links to
stylesheets, favicon, and so forth.

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